Author Topic: 2023  (Read 5107 times)

Re: 2023
« Reply #50 on: January 27, 2020, 11:23:30 am »
If When I do 2023

I have been wasting effort on some models, average speed, time at controls, eating, sleeping etc and as I am pretty full value I looks a bit daunting to keep up an adequate pace so have to work at everything, faster on bike, less time off bike.

The queuing does concern me as I am not fast enough on the bike to allow time to queue. Other than the essential getting card stamped is it practical to otherwise skip a control if there are queues, will I find food etc elsewhere that will be faster.

Also I am fairly much a big sleeper so this is going to be something I have to train to better manage. Everyone is different I guess but is it best to plan (longer) sleep stops or just take shorter as needed.

Fading is also something I have to work on, will look into a HR strap.
Ride more than plan:
Guard against the inclination to spend time planning which could be spent riding, this year, next year and in 2023 (NB hello pot, this is kettle!)
Speed as well as endurance:
Take care to ride shorter distances faster, as well as (or even instead of) long rides. And if you haven't got time for a long ride, nevertheless get out and have some (faster than normal) fun.
Reducing stop times:
After an audax or other longer ride, analyse the stop times and see if you can identify minor things to change to reduce time stopped. And then make those changes.
Queuing and feeding:
Don't fuss about the queuing. The control desks were very efficient. Water bottle filling at some controls was good: others less so - I suspect that will be better in 2023 [Edit to add: But always better to stop and fill up at a pop-up rather than waste time at a control, balanced against losing a group going at an acceptable speed.] And there's plenty of options for food elsewhere - and plenty of advice on here about that. Have courage to stop at cafes and pop-ups. Definitely the best food I ate. Quality coke and chips at 5 in the morning - Gorron; and a family (with AC Bristol connections) pop-up just north of St Meen le Grand around Monday lunchtime (400k-ish); and a delicious ham and pasta mix at Ambrieres-les-Vallees in the heat of Wednesday afternoon (followed by an hour's kip on white sheet covered mattress under an awning in their garden). 3+ years to learn a bit more French, perhaps.
Sleeping:
As you say: everyone is different.
HR Monitor:
I use one (and have done since 1980 for most physical exercise, both training and racing (running/orienteering). Reviewing data is interesting, particularly interval sessions. As @Phil w says, it can be used as a restraint on pushing too hard when there's a long way to go, and a visible (numerical) indicator when you're loafing.
HTH

FifeingEejit

  • Not Small
Re: 2023
« Reply #51 on: January 27, 2020, 01:25:43 pm »
Don't fuss about the queuing. The control desks were very efficient. Water bottle filling at some controls was good: others less so - I suspect that will be better in 2023. And there's plenty of options for food elsewhere - and plenty of advice on here about that. Have courage to stop at cafes and pop-ups. Definitely the best food I ate.

I spent far too much time at controls, not controlling but eating and other stuff all of which can be done elsewhere.
Understanding the different types of shops found in rural France is I think a massive help.

Also... Coca... no more bad cocaine jokes after asking for coke...

Re: 2023
« Reply #52 on: August 20, 2020, 10:25:02 am »
Well up thread in January I rashly proclaimed my intention to front up for a first PBP in 2023, then late February a bad bike accident (on a 150, hit by a truck), 6 weeks in hospital, more broken bones than I thought existed, 4 months off bike and a slower than expected recovery, biggest ride since only 75 km but lots of 50s and now http://www.pbpresults.com/ is today proclaiming "3 years 0 months 0 days until 20th edition of PBP", assuming a Sunday 20/08/2023 start I guess.

Fortunately I think it's still possible for me, no injury below waist and 3 years is enough but no wriggle room in the preparation schedule, got my distraction out of the way early and coincidently with the peak Covid distractions (as long as it doesn't return and is long gone before 2023). Of course some finishers say they went from zero to finish in a year but I don't think I am in that class.

Good luck to the class of 23, see you there.

simonp

  • Omnomnomnipotent.
Re: 2023
« Reply #53 on: August 20, 2020, 12:33:38 pm »
Well up thread in January I rashly proclaimed my intention to front up for a first PBP in 2023, then late February a bad bike accident (on a 150, hit by a truck), 6 weeks in hospital, more broken bones than I thought existed, 4 months off bike and a slower than expected recovery, biggest ride since only 75 km but lots of 50s and now http://www.pbpresults.com/ is today proclaiming "3 years 0 months 0 days until 20th edition of PBP", assuming a Sunday 20/08/2023 start I guess.

Fortunately I think it's still possible for me, no injury below waist and 3 years is enough but no wriggle room in the preparation schedule, got my distraction out of the way early and coincidently with the peak Covid distractions (as long as it doesn't return and is long gone before 2023). Of course some finishers say they went from zero to finish in a year but I don't think I am in that class.

Good luck to the class of 23, see you there.

I hope the recovery process goes well. You have a long time to build up the miles. Good luck!

Redlight

  • Enjoying life in the slow lane
Re: 2023
« Reply #54 on: August 20, 2020, 04:46:37 pm »
Fortunately I think it's still possible for me, no injury below waist and 3 years is enough but no wriggle room in the preparation schedule, 

I have every confidence that you can do it. My injuries were nothing when compared to yours but I was off the bike and on crutches for the first half of 2014 following a smash and I rode PBP comfortably in 2015. I eased my way back into medium distances in the winter of 2014 and rode only one 600 in order to qualify the following spring. If you don't push yourself too hard at the start, I am sure you will be fine.
Why should anybody steal a watch when they can steal a bicycle?

Re: 2023
« Reply #55 on: August 25, 2020, 05:39:52 pm »
Plenty of time to recover and build your fitness and endurance back up over the next few years.  Be prepared to ride a 400 or 600 if not an SR in 2022 as part of pre qualification.

Re: 2023
« Reply #56 on: August 25, 2020, 08:31:43 pm »
Well up thread in January I rashly proclaimed my intention to front up for a first PBP in 2023, then late February a bad bike accident (on a 150, hit by a truck), 6 weeks in hospital, more broken bones than I thought existed, 4 months off bike and a slower than expected recovery,

Ouch! Bad luck. Hope the recovery goes as well as it can.

You've got loads of prep time for PBP. But good to start now. Slowly.

Others may well disagree, but as a full value rider myself [10 yrs junior], I'd be wary about getting too attached to plans and schedules. It's all very well having the idea that it's a bad idea to waste time at controls, but circumstances will dictate what you actually end up doing at the end of the day. If you've been riding through the night and it's been tipping it down, arriving at a control might feel like you've made it to heaven. So....you sit down, gobble food, put your head in your hands....and surface an hour later - which could easily eat away at any time you may have in hand. It's easily done....and is arguably better than pressing on when you're feeling a bit dodgy.

It's all a delicate balancing act between time and sleep.....and it gets more intense and stressful as the event unravels.
That's the beauty of being a full value rider - the beauty is deeply embedded in the stress :-)

See you there....[err...possibly.....looks at booze consumption!!]
Good luck
Garry Broad