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Re: Dutch brevets in 2020
« Reply #100 on: February 07, 2020, 06:42:40 am »
What's so difficult about the return journey? Sprinter to Den Bosch from Nijmegen Dukenburg, catch a train to Amsterdam from there. Last train is at 22:56.

quixoticgeek

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Re: Dutch brevets in 2020
« Reply #101 on: February 07, 2020, 09:41:25 am »
What's so difficult about the return journey? Sprinter to Den Bosch from Nijmegen Dukenburg, catch a train to Amsterdam from there. Last train is at 22:56.

Ooh, that's a much more friendly journey. I don't know what I was doing wrong, 9292 kept sending me on a bus via Arnhem.

Right, given the above option, I'm gonna try to get the 0606 from Sloterdijk!

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quixoticgeek

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Re: Dutch brevets in 2020
« Reply #102 on: February 07, 2020, 10:24:32 am »

I have made a gpx of the route with the diversion in place, with the old bit chopped out. If anyone else wants to use it, you're welcome to.

http://photos.quixotic.eu/misc/nmg_custom.gpx

Use at own risk etc...

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Re: Dutch brevets in 2020
« Reply #103 on: February 07, 2020, 10:46:53 am »
Thanks, QG! I was already on my way when the new route was sent around. I didn't have the chance to create my own new GPX-file.

Re: Dutch brevets in 2020
« Reply #104 on: February 07, 2020, 10:57:42 am »
Thanks, QG! I was already on my way when the new route was sent around. I didn't have the chance to create my own new GPX-file.

For those already on their way, I'm staying in the centre of Nijmegen tonight and have a netbook with Mapsource + the new route with me.

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Re: Dutch brevets in 2020
« Reply #105 on: February 07, 2020, 03:24:53 pm »

Fnnnngh. The 0606 departure is showing as no longer available on 9292. Looks like I need to be on an 0541 from Sloterdijk. Via Centraal, Rotterdam, and Breda...

Thanks NS...

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Zed43

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Re: Dutch brevets in 2020
« Reply #106 on: February 07, 2020, 03:55:26 pm »
Or mail the organiser (Roef) that you will arrive at around 9:30, starting between 9 and 10 is ok but he appreciates a heads up. Then take the 7:00 train from Sloterdijk, transfer at Den Bosch and arrive at 8:55 in Nijmegen. 7km from CS to the start.

quixoticgeek

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Re: Dutch brevets in 2020
« Reply #107 on: February 07, 2020, 04:47:41 pm »
Or mail the organiser (Roef) that you will arrive at around 9:30, starting between 9 and 10 is ok but he appreciates a heads up. Then take the 7:00 train from Sloterdijk, transfer at Den Bosch and arrive at 8:55 in Nijmegen. 7km from CS to the start.

Problem is as a full value rider, I then make it harder for myself by about 30 minutes...

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quixoticgeek

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Re: Dutch brevets in 2020
« Reply #108 on: February 07, 2020, 04:52:01 pm »

I've emailed Roef, let's see what they say.

It does rather cut it fine at the end... tho, given the 2256 return train... The extra hour of sleep would be very appreciated tho...

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quixoticgeek

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Re: Dutch brevets in 2020
« Reply #109 on: February 07, 2020, 07:04:23 pm »

I've not had a reply from the organiser yet, but if anyone who is riding, and will be there early enough, could you tell Roef that I will be a little late. Gonna risk the 0700 from Sloterdijk.

Thanks

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Re: Dutch brevets in 2020
« Reply #110 on: February 07, 2020, 09:14:24 pm »
I'll be there early so I'll tell Roef.
It's very quiet at the hostel so if you want to change your plans at last minute, I could ask the girl at the reception if you can still book.

One other rider at the hostel, I've spotted a Canyon with a PBP bottle

quixoticgeek

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Re: Dutch brevets in 2020
« Reply #111 on: February 07, 2020, 09:36:37 pm »
I'll be there early so I'll tell Roef.
It's very quiet at the hostel so if you want to change your plans at last minute, I could ask the girl at the reception if you can still book.

One other rider at the hostel, I've spotted a Canyon with a PBP bottle

Thanks. I got a reply back from Roef. So all is good. May consider the hostel tho.

Thanks!

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Re: Dutch brevets in 2020
« Reply #112 on: February 07, 2020, 09:46:50 pm »
The route change does cost me 13 extra tiles on my cluster though :(

Zed43

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Re: Dutch brevets in 2020
« Reply #113 on: February 08, 2020, 06:42:54 am »
The route change does cost me 13 extra tiles on my cluster though :(
Should have packed your swimming trunks

quixoticgeek

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Re: Dutch brevets in 2020
« Reply #114 on: February 08, 2020, 06:53:06 am »


Realised that the train stops at Wijchen, 10 mins before it gets to Nijmegen, and Wijchen is only 500m or so further than Nijmegen station. Think I'm gonna try that.

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quixoticgeek

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Re: Dutch brevets in 2020
« Reply #115 on: February 08, 2020, 11:24:19 pm »
Finished in 1240. And managed to catch the 2256 to den Bosch.

Thank you so much to Zed43 for letting me suck your wheel so much, hope I didn't cause you to get home too late

Thanks to slugbait for pointing me at a viable train home.

I think I added 93 new tiles to my count today. Plus two municipalities (now at 341)

Both my bike, and me need a shower...

J
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Zed43

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Re: Dutch brevets in 2020
« Reply #116 on: February 09, 2020, 12:53:28 am »
You're welcome QC, nice riding with you. Almost home now...

Re: Dutch brevets in 2020
« Reply #117 on: February 09, 2020, 08:08:31 am »
A pity you were so tight on your train departures that you couldn't come upstairs to Roef's place for soup.
I'm still at the hostel now. It was a nice ride, a winter route with many place to hide should the weather turn foul.

quixoticgeek

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Re: Dutch brevets in 2020
« Reply #118 on: February 09, 2020, 09:18:01 am »

The route was interesting, tho something that still confuses me is why the detour at Ottello? We could have gone straight on upto the roundabout, but instead the route goes left through the village.

Was there originally a control there?

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Re: Dutch brevets in 2020
« Reply #119 on: February 09, 2020, 10:27:07 am »
Otterlo has a few restaurants, it's where I stopped as 57 km is too short so I didn't hang around at CP1. For a winter BRM it was a good route, probably too many N roads but it's safe and easy to scratch if you have to. Never been to Barneveld before, probably the only gemeente with 2 new churches in NL  ;)  where I live they're all supermarkets and theaters now.
Regards,

Alan

quixoticgeek

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Re: Dutch brevets in 2020
« Reply #120 on: February 09, 2020, 10:33:27 am »
Otterlo has a few restaurants, it's where I stopped as 57 km is too short so I didn't hang around at CP1. For a winter BRM it was a good route, probably too many N roads but it's safe and easy to scratch if you have to. Never been to Barneveld before, probably the only gemeente with 2 new churches in NL  ;)  where I live they're all supermarkets and theaters now.

Interesting.

You can tell we were in the Bible belt. Three massive churches in a very short distance, 2 within a kilometre. I was surprised to see they had car parks tho. I thought driving on a Sunday was frowned upon...

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Re: Dutch brevets in 2020
« Reply #121 on: February 09, 2020, 10:52:18 am »
I read somewhere that one is already deemed to be too small for the congregation.
They probably also come from out lying villages hence the car parks, they're not amish ;)
You can't wash your car on a Sunday though.
Regards,

Alan

quixoticgeek

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Re: Dutch brevets in 2020
« Reply #122 on: February 09, 2020, 10:57:40 am »
I read somewhere that one is already deemed to be too small for the congregation.
They probably also come from out lying villages hence the car parks, they're not amish ;)
You can't wash your car on a Sunday though.

Ah. I once drove through Martinsdijk at about 1800 on a Sunday. Everyone was walking in the same direction. The Dutch person in the car next to me explained the whole zwarte-kousenkerken. I was amazed to find cash points not working in the area. And doing more research I found a church who's website didn't work on Sundays. I lived for over ten years in Canterbury, the home of the church of England, and even I was taken back by this.

That said, the drivers in that area were very courteous yesterday.

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FifeingEejit

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Re: Dutch brevets in 2020
« Reply #123 on: February 09, 2020, 11:16:54 am »
Sounds a bit like the Wee Wee Frees.

Their sunday Sabbath home every page:
https://www.fpchurch.org.uk/we-are-closed-for-the-sabbath/

Re: Dutch brevets in 2020
« Reply #124 on: February 09, 2020, 11:41:25 am »
Sounds a bit like the Wee Wee Frees.

Their sunday Sabbath home every page:
https://www.fpchurch.org.uk/we-are-closed-for-the-sabbath/

Presbyterianism and Dutch Reformed are closely related: both have their roots in the teachings of Calvin.

Anyway, it was a nice ride yesterday albeit a bit damp from the second control onward. There were a couple of places where the route could be optimized (as mentioned above), but overall it was very well organized.