Author Topic: Trek Domane  (Read 63112 times)

simonp

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Re: Trek Domane
« Reply #275 on: March 06, 2019, 04:07:25 pm »
Ooh, that bracket is rather neater than my cable tie bodge  :thumbsup:

Mine was bodged similarly (twisted wire instead of cable ties) plus a bit of duck tape for extra security. Battery cage is much neater and will allow easier maintenance.

Re: Trek Domane
« Reply #276 on: July 29, 2019, 12:09:09 pm »
New 2020 Domane's look sweet. Bugger.  ::-)

Most interestingly to folk in this thread - - - THREADED BB! (T47)

Re: Trek Domane
« Reply #277 on: July 29, 2019, 08:52:06 pm »
New 2020 Domane's look sweet. Bugger.  ::-)

Most interestingly to folk in this thread - - - THREADED BB! (T47)

Have to admit it's taken the Domane SL5 from "also ran, not being considered due to the bottom bracket" where it languished with the Giant Defy Advanced 1 to possibly edging out the Roubaix Sport for first place on my "next bike list".  Don't currently have the £££'s for an immediate purchase so have plenty of time to keep changing my mind between them, but it seems that Isospeed has lower maintenance requirements than FutureShock?

tedshred

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Re: Trek Domane
« Reply #278 on: July 30, 2019, 12:50:45 pm »
About time too.  My original Domane had a succession of BB failures which has made me very cautious about them.  I don't think I have ever had my Emonda out in the rain.

I have converted my newer Domane to the Token BB and will probably do the same with my Emonda.

That seems like a decent compromise but a threaded shell in the first place would be preferable.

The T47 is probably just about universal enough to make the Domane a contender as a fast tourer.
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Re: Trek Domane
« Reply #279 on: July 31, 2019, 09:55:32 pm »
I did 5 days touring on my Domane a couple of days ago. I used a bar bag and the bontrager lightweight disc rack with Alpkit panniers. Worked an absolute treat. I have changed the front chainrings for absolute black super compact oval rings.

tedshred

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Re: Trek Domane
« Reply #280 on: September 25, 2019, 04:50:33 pm »
Help needed from the group with my SLR.

I have an annoying click that happens on every revolution of the cranks with any power but not whilst freewheeling.

I have replaced and greased the Ninja BB with the correct spacers but no difference.

The 4iiii powermeter on the left crank does not seem to come into contact with the frame and everything else seems fine.

Anyone else had similar ?
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T42

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Re: Trek Domane
« Reply #281 on: September 25, 2019, 04:54:56 pm »
SPD pedals will do this when they get a bit worn, IME when the right one is close to the top of the stroke.
I've dusted all those old bottles and set them up straight.

tedshred

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Re: Trek Domane
« Reply #282 on: September 25, 2019, 05:02:27 pm »
Good point.  They are pretty new (I think, depending on which ones I actually put on that bike).

Will swap them out and see what happens.
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Re: Trek Domane
« Reply #283 on: September 26, 2019, 07:20:28 am »
Have you done the basics, like take th epedals off, clean and grease the threads and reattach?

tedshred

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Re: Trek Domane
« Reply #284 on: September 26, 2019, 10:32:13 pm »
No, that’s far too obvious for me  :facepalm:  but I will.
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Re: Trek Domane
« Reply #285 on: September 27, 2019, 07:16:16 am »
 :thumbsup:

Certainly try it. I've had several creaks and clicks I was convinced were terminal that were infact just a little bit of crap in a pedal threads.

Re: Trek Domane
« Reply #286 on: September 27, 2019, 02:47:05 pm »
I had a similar clicking/ticking with each revolution on my SLR6, I had double checked everything and it was driving me nuts.

I noticed that my shoe laces (exustar) whilst double knoted still had fairly long ends which have a plastic end - so I fixed them into the lacing - solved !
I was going to post this in DOTD !

I have never noticed this on my other bikes - they are all steel frames - so it must be the hollow plastic/carbon chainstays increasing the noise.

tedshred

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Re: Trek Domane
« Reply #287 on: September 27, 2019, 03:01:26 pm »
Yes, the first time I rode it any distance I was becoming increasingly worried about the loud squeaking noise the frame was making - it was my left shoe (attached to a tired leg) rubbing on the fairly hollow crank and echoing through the frame  :facepalm:

They are very echoey bikes but I am very pleased with it so far and it is a huge step up from the old 4.3 that I managed to kill.
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Re: Trek Domane
« Reply #288 on: September 27, 2019, 05:09:55 pm »
First time I took mine out I kept thinking there was a car behind me.
I've dusted all those old bottles and set them up straight.

tedshred

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Re: Trek Domane
« Reply #289 on: October 17, 2019, 11:28:14 am »
The pedal thing, it was the pedal thing  :-[

Thank you for the reminder.

It's a bit disconcerting riding around on a silent bike.

I am really enjoying the SLR.  The direct mount brakes are fantastic - even in the wet.  I had built up a stainless steel Genesis Equilibrium to be my take on the ultimate audax bike - good wheels, dyno hub, disc brakes, Ultegra groupset etc.  It is a wonderfully comfortable mile muncher and it moves along nicely but it just doesn't have the fun factor that you get with the SLR.  The SLR is as comfortable, if not more so, and it just seems to move quickly.

For the first time I feel like I need n-1 or even n-2 as my Emonda is starting to look a bit redundant as well.
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Re: Trek Domane
« Reply #290 on: November 13, 2019, 06:10:26 pm »
Drive side bearing in the Token ninja BB failed and as it was only fitted at the end of Feb this year and given it’s not my summer bike, unless I have been unlucky etc
Looks like it will be exciting getting the bearing out on that side too  :facepalm:


















Re: Trek Domane
« Reply #291 on: November 14, 2019, 03:56:38 pm »
Update , you will need a collet type blind bearing removal tool with a (small)slide hammer attached to get out the drive side bearing . Not many bike shops or do it yourselfers are going to have one.
You will then find there are no numbers on the bearing and it looks like a one off design made for the specific Ninja bb . Not seen any replacement  bearings listed by Token , I may try and dig out my Fag bearing book but in the meantime im going back to the std BB90 system (it lasted me two winters)as I’m not sure these are up to the job.
You will have no issues taking out the none drive side bearing if needed.




Re: Trek Domane
« Reply #292 on: November 14, 2019, 08:22:43 pm »
I bought one of those units as a back up and not fitted it as yet.
However it seems to be machined from solid alloy to fit straight in without any of the adapters that are  needed for their general purpose units - the BB90 is a specific type.

So I would have thought if you unscrew the non drive side to release it from the bearing seating and a good bit more, giving it a good clout with a FBH would push the drive side clear and allow the units removal.

I assumed that the bearings are non replaceable ?

Have you spoken to Token.
I have a puller unit for BB90 that I bought from Merlin.

Re: Trek Domane
« Reply #293 on: November 15, 2019, 08:20:53 am »
The drive side bearing is not able to drifted out as inside diameter of the bearing is the same size as the drive side tube ie flush nothing you can hit , the none drive side is the bigger half of the adapter so there is a step where the bearing seats so no issues getting that side out .

I bought mine new s/h off fleebay with the fitting tool so can’t return the thing but it was £30 so not the end of the world.

Bearings would be replaceable if you can buy them , I have not contacted Token as having taken It apart I don’t thing the design of the bearing will last it only has a dust cover no proper sealing on the outside of it so I’m going back to the std bb90 setup I got two winters out of those .




Re: Trek Domane
« Reply #294 on: November 15, 2019, 11:47:47 am »
What I was meaning is that to get the drive side out you do not completely remove the non drive side - keep them threaded together, but with the  non drive side already out of the frame plus a few threads and them strike the non drive side with a soft mallet - drifting the drive side from its seating - continue until its out - its long enough as thats how it goes in.

If you have a look at the Token site they have some videos that show this - the adapter removal bit does not apply as there are no adapters with the BB90.

I am rather concerned at the short bearing life - assume you had the spacers (shields ?) fitted.

I would still talk to Token as they advertise their systems as being very durable.

Re: Trek Domane
« Reply #295 on: November 15, 2019, 05:06:54 pm »
What I was meaning is that to get the drive side out you do not completely remove the non drive side - keep them threaded together, but with the  non drive side already out of the frame plus a few threads and them strike the non drive side with a soft mallet - drifting the drive side from its seating - continue until its out - its long enough as thats how it goes in.

If you have a look at the Token site they have some videos that show this - the adapter removal bit does not apply as there are no adapters with the BB90.

I am rather concerned at the short bearing life - assume you had the spacers (shields ?) fitted.

If you take your new bottom bracket out of the box and look at the drive side which is the smaller diameter middle tube of the two threaded half’s then look inside it and you will see the inside diameter of the bearing is hardly any difference than that of the adapter 0.4mm in fact not enough to get at the back of it , I have a park BBT-90.3 bb bearing removal tool and that did not work either , I suppose you could use a screwdriver and bend the end over but that would be a bit ruff and probably damage the housing.
The video on YouTube is not there Trek bb90 bottom bracket having just checked it out against mine.

The reason I won’t be using it are

Original bearing dimensions 37mm OD 25mm ID 7mm width
Token bearing dimensions    34.2mm OD 25mm ID 4.5mm width

That’s a 35% decrease in width(I think as I remember it’s called load width)
The inside of the bearing has a proper seal but the outside just has a dust cover .
In my opinion it’s not going to be up to the conditions I use the bike in ie winter




I would still talk to Token as they advertise their systems as being very durable.