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Re: Liverpool
« Reply #50 on: April 06, 2020, 08:24:59 pm »
U-turn - LFC will now just pay the furloughed staff from club funds:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/apr/06/liverpool-reverse-decision-to-furlough-staff-after-fierce-criticism-coronavirus

Lots of fans, local and national press, local authorities and others applied pressure. Should have consulted with them (not the press) before announcing stuff.

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Re: Liverpool
« Reply #51 on: April 06, 2020, 08:51:28 pm »
Or could have simply Done The Right Thing.
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Re: Liverpool
« Reply #52 on: April 07, 2020, 08:34:24 am »
Or could have simply Done The Right Thing.
That's an interesting statement. Many football clubs will be using this scheme, and it will be a lifeline for many smaller clubs that will stop them going under. At least 4 other premier league clubs have used the scheme (including the one who made the biggest profit last year).

I understand why people hold football clubs to higher standards than other businesses. They are supposed to be part of the community etc. The bit that confuses me is why do we hold some clubs to a higher standard than others? Norwich, Spurs, Bournemouth and Newcastle have had put the staff on this scheme, to almost no noise at all.  And at least one of them (Spurs) is not topping up the wages - they are just paying furloughed staff 80% of their normal salary. No-one expects Newcastle to do anything other than try to save pennies (Mike Ashley), but the other 3 are supposedly bastions of well run clubs with sound owners.

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Re: Liverpool
« Reply #53 on: April 07, 2020, 08:58:31 am »
The reason we hold football clubs to higher standards is because of our emotional connection to them. It was mostly Liverpool fans who were clamouring for this decision to be overturned.

John Henry, the owner, is widely perceived as one of the good guys (relatively, for a hedge-fund billionaire). Peter Moore, the chief exec, is a boyhood Liverpool fan, 'one of us'. So Liverpool fans felt betrayed by this action that they felt didn't represent their values. Newcastle fans don't quite have the same relationship with their owner.

The initial decision won't have been taken lightly, and probably was made with expectation of some backlash (given the public reaction to Spurs and Newcastle doing the same). But maybe they didn't anticipate the level of the backlash.

I have mixed feelings about it. Even though Liverpool are one of the world's richest clubs, this situation will be hitting them hard financially, and there will be lasting effects on the business side of things. So I didn't feel quite so strongly as some people about their decision to use the furlough scheme. We also don't know what other measures have been taken - I'm assuming that like many other companies, the board have taken significant pay cuts themselves, they just haven't publicised the fact (and nor should they - they can afford to take the hit so it's nothing to congratulate them for).

But I am glad that they have backtracked and done what is perceived to be the decent thing, and been big enough to make an unequivocal apology for it.

In the long term, I'm hoping this terrible situation forces the whole football industry to recalibrate its values. But I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for that to happen.

Re: Liverpool
« Reply #54 on: April 09, 2020, 08:56:29 am »
John Henry, the owner, is widely perceived as one of the good guys

Yeah,despite also being the owner of the Red Sox (Eurgh), he is actually doing the right thing there:
https://www.masslive.com/redsox/2020/03/coronavirus-boston-red-sox-expand-funding-for-ballpark-workers-to-15-million-covering-aramark-employees.html

Re: Liverpool
« Reply #55 on: June 25, 2020, 09:02:45 am »
And their back! Stuttering re-start to the season in the Liverpool derby on Sunday but a 4:0 thrashing of Crystal Palace last night.
Two points needed now from seven games and that's only if Man City win every match they have left.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

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Re: Liverpool
« Reply #56 on: June 25, 2020, 09:09:35 am »
Three and a half amazing goals!*

* One wasn't half amazing, it was just quite good.
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Re: Liverpool
« Reply #57 on: June 25, 2020, 09:28:19 am »
Which one do you think was less than fully amazing?

I thought everything about the all-round performance was fantastic, especially Fabinho's part in it. One of the best of the season, in fact - only behind the Boxing Day game at Leicester, and the two home wins against the Manc clubs.

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Re: Liverpool
« Reply #58 on: June 25, 2020, 09:35:28 am »
I think the last one.

But you are right, they were all good!

Which reminds me, I must find a rerun of the Watford - Liverpool match to watch. I missed it live  ;D
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« Reply #59 on: June 25, 2020, 10:36:42 am »
This was off the back of 4 straight wins by Palace, albeit a pandemic ago.
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« Reply #60 on: June 25, 2020, 12:36:53 pm »
I think the last one.

But you are right, they were all good!

The finish on the last one was pretty run-of-the-mill by Mané's standards, but the sublime through ball from Salah is what made it special for me.

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Which reminds me, I must find a rerun of the Watford - Liverpool match to watch. I missed it live  ;D

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Re: Liverpool
« Reply #61 on: June 25, 2020, 01:15:04 pm »
I think the last one.

But you are right, they were all good!
The other thing about the last goal is that Mane recovers the loose ball midway inside the Liverpool half (right on the touchline) and starts his run from there.

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Re: Liverpool
« Reply #62 on: June 25, 2020, 01:25:09 pm »
The other thing about the last goal is that Mane recovers the loose ball midway inside the Liverpool half (right on the touchline) and starts his run from there.

Yep - Mané to Firmino to Salah to Mané. Beautiful harmony from the front three.

Mané also does well to change the angle of his run to stay onside.

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Re: Liverpool
« Reply #63 on: June 27, 2020, 11:57:20 am »
Good to see:

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/announcements/400082-joint-statement-from-lfc-merseyside-police-and-liverpool-city-council

Throughout the last week, Liverpool Football Club, Merseyside Police, Liverpool City Council and Spirit of Shankly have worked together to consistently remind people that the region is still disproportionately affected by the COVID-19 pandemic and ask people to celebrate LFC’s Premier League title win safely.

Several thousand people turned up at the Pier Head on Friday June 26 and some chose to ignore the social distancing guidance and risk public safety.

Our city is still in a public health crisis and this behaviour is wholly unacceptable.

The potential danger of a second peak of COVID-19 still exists and we need to work together to make sure we don’t undo everything that has been achieved as a region during lockdown.

When it is safe to do so, we will all work together to arrange a victory parade when everyone can come together to celebrate. Until that time, the safety of our city and our people continues to be our number one priority.
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