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Re: Disc wheelset reccomendations
« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2020, 05:36:07 pm »
All the rims I mentioned will take 28s perfectly and will be fine with 45s as well for gravel and and stuff.

Given the total load and for 28mm tyres, I'd probably go for the 31T with the asymmetric rear rim, or even the 26T. But I like asymmetric rears as they allow a stronger and more durable build. I suspect that all would work fine of course - you must have rims you like the look of.


Re: Disc wheelset reccomendations
« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2020, 05:44:38 pm »
Mike for internal width all I'm fussed is that they'll take 28mm 700c tyres, and anything bigger than that is a plus. Shouldn't ever have to go wider than 45mm at the widest.

Interesting on your point about Kinlin - I've browsed the cycle clinic page, having nothing better to do, and found this https://thecycleclinic.co.uk/collections/rims/products/kinlin-tl-21-mtb-gravel-touring-rim-disc-brake which does look very much like it.

For 28mm you don’t want to be going over 19mm internal according to ETRO. So something in the 17-19mm internal will prob suit your purposes.
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Re: Disc wheelset reccomendations
« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2020, 06:44:00 pm »
Hope hubs seems somewhat at odds with your “cheap stuff is almost as good as much more expensive stuff” philosophy. Are you getting them in a lovely colour?

bludger

  • Randonneur and bargain hunter
Re: Disc wheelset reccomendations
« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2020, 07:07:08 pm »
I'm thinking silver. Plus silver rims. I think silver + dark green is a good look. Could get silver mudguards too.

I think that's an unkind oversimplification, I do think that there I quality goods out there - carradice, Chris king, hope, enigma and sonon. It's just that I think it is worth robustly budgeting so that it's affordable. For instance my £2 planet X multi tool is just as good as the £15 one on sale in Evans, and that's £13 I can put towards spokes and hubs instead of a different species of chinesium Allen key.

This video sort of captures what I'm on about https://youtu.be/YgQsm-5cfpk and the masterpiece that came before it https://youtu.be/-bb7eCgLbLI
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quixoticgeek

  • Mostly Harmless
Re: Disc wheelset reccomendations
« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2020, 10:14:32 pm »
I'm thinking silver. Plus silver rims. I think silver + dark green is a good look. Could get silver mudguards too.

I think that's an unkind oversimplification, I do think that there I quality goods out there - carradice, Chris king, hope, enigma and sonon. It's just that I think it is worth robustly budgeting so that it's affordable. For instance my £2 planet X multi tool is just as good as the £15 one on sale in Evans, and that's £13 I can put towards spokes and hubs instead of a different species of chinesium Allen key.

See, tools is one of those areas I really try not to skimp. My multitool of choice is a topeak ratchet rocket. Which is a great tool. Worth the money.

J
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bludger

  • Randonneur and bargain hunter
Re: Disc wheelset reccomendations
« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2020, 10:19:22 pm »
I don't see it as skimping in this regard, the tools seem fine to me. For instance I got a Planet X torque wrench for £20 which is this exact same tool but £10 cheaper https://www.wiggle.co.uk/x-tools-x-tools-essential-torque-wrench-set/

This is getting a bit off topic but it's going to take a lot to convince me that most 'bike products' aren't vastly overinflated in cost. For clothes especially women's clothes which have fit requirements there's obviously more at stake, I am just very wary of big markups from what i think are fundamentally the same things coming out of the factories.
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Re: Disc wheelset reccomendations
« Reply #31 on: January 07, 2020, 10:47:29 pm »
I don't see it as skimping in this regard, the tools seem fine to me. For instance I got a Planet X torque wrench for £20 which is this exact same tool but £10 cheaper https://www.wiggle.co.uk/x-tools-x-tools-essential-torque-wrench-set/

This is getting a bit off topic but it's going to take a lot to convince me that most 'bike products' aren't vastly overinflated in cost. For clothes especially women's clothes which have fit requirements there's obviously more at stake, I am just very wary of big markups from what i think are fundamentally the same things coming out of the factories.
Yes way off topic, but as we're here... there are reasons why a £20 tool should be better than a £5 one, though the tough bit is being able to identify if it is. 
Bringing it slightly back on topic, there's also the idea that because something is common and cheap is isn't good, a case in point Shimano hubs.  Once you've got the hang of the simple maintenance and adjustment, I'd take the cup and cone design over Hope's cartridge bearings every time, at any price, the only thing lacking is the bling factor.

Re: Disc wheelset reccomendations
« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2020, 10:52:36 pm »
I don't see it as skimping in this regard, the tools seem fine to me. For instance I got a Planet X torque wrench for £20 which is this exact same tool but £10 cheaper https://www.wiggle.co.uk/x-tools-x-tools-essential-torque-wrench-set/

This is getting a bit off topic but it's going to take a lot to convince me that most 'bike products' aren't vastly overinflated in cost. For clothes especially women's clothes which have fit requirements there's obviously more at stake, I am just very wary of big markups from what i think are fundamentally the same things coming out of the factories.
Yes way off topic, but as we're here... there are reasons why a £20 tool should be better than a £5 one, though the tough bit is being able to identify if it is. 
Bringing it slightly back on topic, there's also the idea that because something is common and cheap is isn't good, a case in point Shimano hubs.  Once you've got the hang of the simple maintenance and adjustment, I'd take the cup and cone design over Hope's cartridge bearings every time, at any price, the only thing lacking is the bling factor.

The tough bit is identifying which £20 tool should cost £20 and which should be less than a fiver, or perhaps that's just me. However, good tools are nice.

As to Shimano hubs, yep my preference really. They've even started making some with less than 32 holes.

quixoticgeek

  • Mostly Harmless
Re: Disc wheelset reccomendations
« Reply #33 on: January 07, 2020, 11:39:18 pm »

As to Shimano hubs, yep my preference really. They've even started making some with less than 32 holes.

Shimano hubs also have the advantage of not sounding like you're being chased by a someone with a football rattle...

I have now standardised on one model of rear hub so I can exchange parts between them if needed...

J
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bludger

  • Randonneur and bargain hunter
Re: Disc wheelset reccomendations
« Reply #34 on: January 07, 2020, 11:43:23 pm »
I was asked if I would be interested in a Halo supadrive hub (wonder who makes those...?). Listen to this thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa1JvsEiGic

yikes. Not really conducive for sneaking into farmer jones's field for a 4 hour doze...
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zigzag

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Re: Disc wheelset reccomendations
« Reply #35 on: January 08, 2020, 12:13:22 am »
for really loud hubs, industry9 are the ones to have, got plenty of comments and kept the group awake at night on pbp, and pedestrians sometimes jump being spooked when i start coasting.. a big hollow in carbon rims amplify their loudness too.
overall i prefer quiet(er) freehubs, it's only a shame that they don't engage as well as the loud(er) ones, e.g. shimano, formula/quando, older mavic - all skip occasionally.

Re: Disc wheelset reccomendations
« Reply #36 on: January 08, 2020, 02:13:50 am »
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