Author Topic: Is a Scottish SR600 possible  (Read 2429 times)

FifeingEejit

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Re: Is a Scottish SR600 possible
« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2020, 01:13:07 pm »
Taking a closer look at Roberto's route rather than just dumping the GPX out and shoving it through the "tool"

Tried different routes through Oban? like up to Pulpit Hill or to McCaigs?
Should be a bit lumpier than the Corran Esplanade

In fact what about going out Glencruiten to get to Connel Ferry? I remember it being lumpy


Re: Is a Scottish SR600 possible
« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2020, 01:23:35 pm »
Parallel to the railway? That's a nice bit of road that.

FifeingEejit

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Re: Is a Scottish SR600 possible
« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2020, 01:34:52 pm »
Yeah. No the NCN 78 route, hold on didn't realize that was a road beside the railway (and looking on GSV... not convinced)

Playing in RWGPS rather than working...
Coming in on Soroba road with the start on the railway bridge and the end on the north landfall of Connel Ferry Bridge:

Glencruiten: 143m in 10.3km
A85 via Dunbeg: 101m in 9.9km
Ganavan Cycle Track: 112m in 11.7km
A85 and over Battery Hill in Oban (McCaigs): 124m in 10.2km

FifeingEejit

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Re: Is a Scottish SR600 possible
« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2020, 01:38:56 pm »
Gated road beside railway (No sign to say you're not allowed on it and at the north end there's a sign... "Unsuitable for Motor Vehicles")

124m in 8.6km

Re: Is a Scottish SR600 possible
« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2020, 02:30:40 pm »
That's a lot of sections with only 1% climb when the overall target is about 1.7%
   Eddington  87 miles

Re: Is a Scottish SR600 possible
« Reply #30 on: January 27, 2020, 03:45:43 pm »
This where I got to with the above route.  631km and 9902m.  I'm working on a different route in Scotland and am above 10,000m but also need to lose about 13km.

 https://www.openrunner.com/r/10936477
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FifeingEejit

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Re: Is a Scottish SR600 possible
« Reply #31 on: January 27, 2020, 03:55:00 pm »
Taking the Dunoon route out of Oban via Glen Cruiten should definitive get you a bit closer to the 10k
Up through Benderloch the road is slightly lumpier in places than the railway path but possibly longer.
The peak of the road to the isles section is Glenfinnan so there's a lot of descent/lumpy at the end that might be better put elsewhere.

I tried to edit a copy but OpenRunner...


Re: Is a Scottish SR600 possible
« Reply #32 on: January 27, 2020, 04:40:00 pm »
Also came up with this based around Cairngorms but over distance.

635km, 10,169m

 https://www.openrunner.com/r/10937459
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Re: Is a Scottish SR600 possible
« Reply #33 on: January 27, 2020, 05:33:32 pm »
Instead of going to Fettercairn once over CoM, you could turn right at the bottom of the hill (Clatterin' Brig) and go up towards Drumtochty Glen a bit for some climbing then turn about there. This will trim distance and probably add some climb.

FifeingEejit

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Re: Is a Scottish SR600 possible
« Reply #34 on: January 27, 2020, 07:04:48 pm »
Also came up with this based around Cairngorms but over distance.

635km, 10,169m

 https://www.openrunner.com/r/10937459

Might add more distance but IIRC the Giola Dam road (kennock to pubil) is hillier than Ben Lawers.
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/31827093
EDIT: Pish, it is hillier to get to Bridge of Balgie directly but not once you add in the leg to Pubil and back when going over Lawers

It's not adopted but it is passable on a bike, though the steep switchback is a bit loose.
Golf course road into Braemar is IIRC marginally shorter Edit: But you lose 5m of climb for 100m less distance

There's some really weird spikes and loops showing up though.
Some of the turnpoints are rather featureless, on a good day at the top of the Errochty climb you'll get a picture with some non-descript trees, on an average you'll get mist.
Although I do note that we're getting into the practicalities of proving you got to places rather than getting the appropriate climb and distance!

Instead of going to Fettercairn once over CoM, you could turn right at the bottom of the hill (Clatterin' Brig) and go up towards Drumtochty Glen a bit for some climbing then turn about there. This will trim distance and probably add some climb.

6km from the milk bar to Fettry arch, 15m climb, 76m lost
Turning up drumtochty gets you 63m in 2.5km

FifeingEejit

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Re: Is a Scottish SR600 possible
« Reply #35 on: January 27, 2020, 07:50:08 pm »
Made some tweeks to Phils mounth based on

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/31827235
https://www.openrunner.com/r/10938933

4km over max distance and 87m of climb short...

FifeingEejit

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Re: Is a Scottish SR600 possible
« Reply #36 on: January 27, 2020, 08:02:15 pm »
Closer, 2km less than max distance now but still needs 59m
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/31827350
https://www.openrunner.com/r/10938973

Re: Is a Scottish SR600 possible
« Reply #37 on: January 27, 2020, 08:15:05 pm »
Yeah I wasn’t looking for what you could photograph at this point. Just where are there some clusters of high passes you can link together based on what I could see on the OS mapping.

Last post - did you plan to post the link of my original Cairngorms one or do you have a tweaked version in Open Runner?
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FifeingEejit

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Re: Is a Scottish SR600 possible
« Reply #38 on: January 27, 2020, 08:19:35 pm »
Yeah I wasn’t looking for what you could photograph at this point. Just where are there some clusters of high passes you can link together based on what I could see on the OS mapping.

Last post - did you plan to post the link of my original Cairngorms one or do you have a tweaked version in Open Runner?

The open runner links were meant to be my uploads to OR from the RWGPS extract.
Looking at how to sort that now

Edit: Links changed, for some reason it shows your original route ID in the URL when I select them from my list; but I can grab the ID from the listing and put it into the URL...
This and other "features" make me think OpenRunner is french...

FifeingEejit

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Re: Is a Scottish SR600 possible
« Reply #39 on: January 27, 2020, 08:29:06 pm »
Got a nudge over 619km and 10126m on Open Runner
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/31827548
https://www.openrunner.com/r/10939086

But can it be done in less than 21 controls...
I've not tried to route it based on this list yet
1: Sign at bottom of Ben Lawers Road
2: Giola Dam
3: Kennock
4: Bridge of Balgie - OpenRunner routes you back here from Kennock via the Ben Lawers road despite it being 10km longer
5: Top of Glen Quaich
6: Top of Griffin (Highest point on the road is the car park not the loch)
7: Top of Errochty
8: Top of Tenandry - Again Open Runner takes the longer route a control on Loch Tummel would do, but then it sends you round the hill to get to the point which adds more distance again
9: Gairnshiel
10: Glen Muick
11: Top of Cairn o Mounth
12: Clatt
13: Elrick - THis comes out as an out and back rather than up the cabrach and back the other road
14: Somewhere on the loop between Heughead and Bellabeg - Probably also need a control at Heughhead
Probably don't actually need the road to Lost...
15: Top of the BHn
16: Carn Eitidh
17: Cairngorm Ski Centre

Re: Is a Scottish SR600 possible
« Reply #40 on: January 27, 2020, 08:41:52 pm »
Sure closer examination we can get it under 618km and still above 10,000m. Then it’s a question of what can be photographed as proof. Will look again tomorrow on PC when it’s loaded on OS mapping.
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Re: Is a Scottish SR600 possible
« Reply #41 on: January 27, 2020, 08:43:27 pm »
Ah just seen the photo list. I’ll look at trimming the small excess tomorrow unless someone else gets there first.
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FifeingEejit

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Re: Is a Scottish SR600 possible
« Reply #42 on: January 27, 2020, 08:47:32 pm »
Just going to shove some notes on it from trying to recreate with OpenRunner

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Re: Is a Scottish SR600 possible
« Reply #43 on: January 27, 2020, 08:52:33 pm »
With the Bridge of Balgie and Tennandry issues "sorted"
https://www.openrunner.com/r/10939183

So it's looking possible on Mounth

The Argyll and West Highlands one is worth bashing around on too, plenty of French interest there.

Re: Is a Scottish SR600 possible
« Reply #44 on: January 27, 2020, 09:08:27 pm »
Excellent, I knew I was on the right track in the Cairngorms when I saw the climb figures for my first attempt.

Yeah I’ve got a working version of the west coast idea still on PC.  I’ve got it over 10,000m but about 40km over distance. So will look to see where I can trim distance without losing much of the ascent figure.

I did spot a lumpier road that cut distance and ended at a jetty. I meant to see if there is a ferry there and its times of operation.  It’s a short ferry hop if something does run.
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FifeingEejit

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Re: Is a Scottish SR600 possible
« Reply #45 on: January 27, 2020, 09:10:41 pm »
Yeah I’ve got a working version of the west coast idea still on PC.  I’ve got it over 10,000m but about 40km over distance. So will look to see where I can trim distance without losing much of the ascent figure.

I did spot a lumpier road that cut distance and ended at a jetty. I meant to see if there is a ferry there and its times of operation.  It’s a short ferry hop if something does run.

Can you remember where hat was?

Oh and I've been assuming we need to subtract ferry distances for that one
Portavadie - Tarbert is 5km
Corran is 600m

Re: Is a Scottish SR600 possible
« Reply #46 on: January 27, 2020, 09:13:46 pm »
Yeah I’ve got a working version of the west coast idea still on PC.  I’ve got it over 10,000m but about 40km over distance. So will look to see where I can trim distance without losing much of the ascent figure.

I did spot a lumpier road that cut distance and ended at a jetty. I meant to see if there is a ferry there and its times of operation.  It’s a short ferry hop if something does run.

Can you remember where hat was?

Nah that was this morning.  But I’ll find it soon enough on the OS mapping in the morning as it stood out.

Might just do some search engine fu to see if any ferry terminals ring a bell.
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FifeingEejit

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Re: Is a Scottish SR600 possible
« Reply #47 on: January 27, 2020, 09:17:02 pm »
Bonawe to Taynuilt?
Not been a ferry there since the Calley caved in and allowed vehicles across the Connel Ferry Bridge

Re: Is a Scottish SR600 possible
« Reply #48 on: January 27, 2020, 09:20:43 pm »
Does Oban - Inverness cut it? Something like this should be close although I am not sure about the ferries, especially Kylerhea.

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/31827602

FifeingEejit

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Re: Is a Scottish SR600 possible
« Reply #49 on: January 27, 2020, 09:25:07 pm »
Does Oban - Inverness cut it? Something like this should be close although I am not sure about the ferries, especially Kylerhea.

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/31827602

Think you're underdistance there, I count 18km of ferries.
Comes in 1000m under on open runner: https://www.openrunner.com/r/10939325