Author Topic: Brickie's memorial?  (Read 1478 times)

Tim Hall

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Brickie's memorial?
« on: March 16, 2020, 02:07:38 pm »
Down my way there's the beginnings of a new housing development. As part of the prepartory work verges have been cleared, Heras fencing been erected and the odd digger has been spotted.  This has resulted in a Big Concrete Drain Thing being uncovered by the side of the road. It's a concrete disc around 3m in diameter sitting on top of a brick structure which presumably descends several metres into the ground. Sitting on top of it was what looks like a brick built chimmney around a metre tall with a brick laying trowel poking out of the top.  I haven't looked at it closely but the base of it appeared to be a busteed lump of concrete.  All this suggesting it was found in the ditrch or elsewhere on the site.

Go forward a couple of weeks and a second one, complete with brick laying trowel, appeared. This was freshly constructed, bedded in mortar onto the concrete slab.  Then last week the first one disappeared.

I'm at a loss as to what they are. Some kind of memorial to a dead brickie?  A topping out ceremony thing?   Any ideas?
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"overhaul" it, or you can ride it.  (Jerome K Jerome)

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Brickie's memorial?
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2020, 03:39:22 pm »
It's a landing site. The diamond-shaped metal of the trowels acts as a beacon for the spacecraft. On board are the aliens who have the cure for coronavirus. The universe loves us and we don't even know it.
Days become simply the spaces between dreams, spaces between the shifting floors of time...

Tim Hall

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Re: Brickie's memorial?
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2020, 03:47:21 pm »
It's a landing site. The diamond-shaped metal of the trowels acts as a beacon for the spacecraft. On board are the aliens who have the cure for coronavirus. The universe loves us and we don't even know it.
I, for one, welcome our mortar spattered over lords.
There are two ways you can get exercise out of a bicycle: you can
"overhaul" it, or you can ride it.  (Jerome K Jerome)

fuaran

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Re: Brickie's memorial?
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2020, 04:32:57 pm »
Practice for apprentices?

Re: Brickie's memorial?
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2020, 04:39:46 pm »
With apologies to Thomas Malory...

"Whoso pulleth out this trowel of this chimney and slabbe, is rightwise king born."
He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you.

Re: Brickie's memorial?
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2020, 06:16:37 pm »
Concrete disk is known as a Biscuit and is used where a manhole needs to change size. Sounds like you have a line of chambers which reduce down for the last 600mm or so which goes upto the manhole cover and frame.

Tim Hall

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Re: Brickie's memorial?
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2020, 07:36:55 pm »
The remaining chimney thing has now been enhanced by a Marigold rubber glove, fitting, like, umm, a glove, on to the handle of the trowel, one finger pointing to the sky. This gives more weight to Cudzo's alien beacon theory.
There are two ways you can get exercise out of a bicycle: you can
"overhaul" it, or you can ride it.  (Jerome K Jerome)

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Brickie's memorial?
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2020, 07:45:34 pm »
Do tell us which finger...
Days become simply the spaces between dreams, spaces between the shifting floors of time...

Kim

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Re: Brickie's memorial?
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2020, 08:12:16 pm »
TTIUWP!
Careful, Kim. Your sarcasm's showing...

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Brickie's memorial?
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2020, 09:13:05 pm »
TTIUWP!
This thread is useless without pointing.
Well it's got that, in both senses.
Days become simply the spaces between dreams, spaces between the shifting floors of time...

Tim Hall

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Re: Brickie's memorial?
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2020, 01:57:44 pm »
Pictures!




Things to note:
1. It's not a chimney top, as it's solid all the way through.
2. Hurrah for the finger positioing.
3. My bike is dirty.
There are two ways you can get exercise out of a bicycle: you can
"overhaul" it, or you can ride it.  (Jerome K Jerome)

Kim

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Re: Brickie's memorial?
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2020, 02:01:53 pm »
I'm thinking theodolites...
Careful, Kim. Your sarcasm's showing...

Re: Brickie's memorial?
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2020, 02:06:48 pm »
I'm thinking theodolites...
I recon you're on the money...

Tim Hall

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Re: Brickie's memorial?
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2020, 02:10:33 pm »
I'm thinking theodolites...
I recon you're on the money...
There's a survey mark on the concrete biscuit a foot or so away, marked by the orange/red triangle in the second photo.  If it were for theodolites the brickies trowel, now covered by the glove, would get in the way. And why was the first one put there?
There are two ways you can get exercise out of a bicycle: you can
"overhaul" it, or you can ride it.  (Jerome K Jerome)

Re: Brickie's memorial?
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2020, 02:17:24 pm »
All will be revealed in 15 days?

My money is on someone with too much time on their hands (and a need to practice their bricklaying skills).

andytheflyer

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Re: Brickie's memorial?
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2020, 04:52:25 pm »
Nah, not theodolites, and I was in the business 40 years and electronic surveying was coming in when I started.  These days it's all differential gps and they only need a marker point on a level surface - so a nail in a concrete slab or similar. 
I can't think of any engineering reason for those brick pillars on top of those concrete biscuits, I think they are a leg pull of some sort. 

Re: Brickie's memorial?
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2020, 08:12:37 pm »
It could be a test piece , to show planers the colour of bricks proposed for the site . Normally its a larger panel 2m x 2m and done by a good tradesman . With my bricklayers woolly hat on I would not trust that fecker with Lego . He has  hopefully being given the bullet ( Sacked ) and some one taken the trowel off him . The one finger salute might be to him , or his former employer . 
Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul  three wheels Nurses !!!

Re: Brickie's memorial?
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2020, 09:49:29 pm »
A new site on a nondescript road, could it just be a marker for deliveries?

Tim Hall

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Re: Brickie's memorial?
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2020, 10:24:23 am »
Further research, including talking to someone who inhabits the local Facebook Group, for local people, reveals that the pillars were built by "Dave". Just because he could.

Here's a photo of both of Dave's Pillars.


canny colin, can you elecidate? What's wrong, from a Proper Bricklayer's poi8nt of view?
There are two ways you can get exercise out of a bicycle: you can
"overhaul" it, or you can ride it.  (Jerome K Jerome)

Re: Brickie's memorial?
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2020, 02:59:21 pm »
It could be a test piece , to show planers the colour of bricks proposed for the site . Normally its a larger panel 2m x 2m and done by a good tradesman . With my bricklayers woolly hat on I would not trust that fecker with Lego . He has  hopefully being given the bullet ( Sacked ) and some one taken the trowel off him . The one finger salute might be to him , or his former employer .

+1

I can do better than that.  Even. 

Sic transit and all that..

Re: Brickie's memorial?
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2020, 10:15:03 pm »
My view as a time served city & guilds advanced trade bricklayer . 
 Bricks vary in size.
A good tradesmen would only build  a minimum of a  one & a half  or two brick wide pillar , if all sides ( faces) were on display . This allows you a mortar perpendicular (perps) joint between all the bricks & batts ( cut bricks ) ,so  you can increase or decreases  the width of the joint slightly and  keep all arris  ( corner of bricks ) vertical so all face can be easily kept what we like to say is " spot on plumb " .
 
 If you build a one brick wide pillar you can only plumb one corner of a full brick . The arris of the bricks on opposite end  will never be in line or  plumb . looks shoddy.
When mixing bricks you need to check they are the same dimensions . The red bricks are smaller than the whites so the perps are increased .
  This lad has let the red bricks over hang the white , so i think he can try and keep it plumb . But it  means the perps are massive . Good brick work should have 10 mm joints  not some 10 mm ,12 or 14 mm .
The arris of the bricks should all be in line not going in and out on alternative courses. In the trade we call it burglar bond . Because the burglars  can climb up it .
Good brickwork has all the bricks laid to gauge .IE  the mortar ( bed ) joint is  very close to 10 mm ( remember bricks vary slightly )   not 12mm /14mm and increasing

The very top bricks  ( brick on edge ) are not plumb . known in the trade as " pissed " . 

The faces of the bricks are smeared with mortar, big joint all ways look bad if you use a jointer . it leaves a concave joint witch increase the visual joint . When dealing with big joint in old brickwork say in the back of a fireplace beside a wood burning stove . I use  struck weather pointing . You can disguise large joints and the rain is shed away from the face of the brickwork .
After you have used a jointer on brickwork you should clean the edges of the joint with a trowel  or wait a bit and clean off the brickwork with a very soft brush , to remove the snots  ( little bits of mortar) .
The pillar is covered in snots . It saddens me that some one would even own up to doing such shoddy work .

Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul  three wheels Nurses !!!

Re: Brickie's memorial?
« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2020, 10:39:29 pm »
I must learn how to down load pictures  . I built a miniaturise steam engine shed  at Beamish museum for  four and quarter  gauge locos . Its got a proper plinth , bands of Staffordshire blue bricks for the damp proof course  ,three arches each side in voussoirs , proper springers and key stones . A bulls eye window each end and its only about six feet long and two feet wide . Proper job !!!
Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul  three wheels Nurses !!!

Re: Brickie's memorial?
« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2020, 09:24:36 am »
I must learn how to down load pictures  . I built a miniaturise steam engine shed  at Beamish museum for  four and quarter  gauge locos . Its got a proper plinth , bands of Staffordshire blue bricks for the damp proof course  ,three arches each side in voussoirs , proper springers and key stones . A bulls eye window each end and its only about six feet long and two feet wide . Proper job !!!

You could use this?

https://imgbb.com/upload


WRT brickwork, when out walking I was fascinated to encounter one of the first skew-arch viaducts.  I guess few people take much notice of the brickwork on these extraordinary bridges!

Sic transit and all that..

Re: Brickie's memorial?
« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2020, 08:56:13 pm »
You've got me going, now!

A question for Canny Colin; how on earth does a bricklayer build a skew arch?

Re: Brickie's memorial?
« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2020, 09:13:00 pm »
Until CC returns with his experience - the simple answer is build some timber centring, lay the bricks, remove the centring.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skew_arch