Author Topic: Tales from the Lock-Down  (Read 24218 times)

Re: Tales from the Lock-Down
« Reply #575 on: May 30, 2020, 01:55:27 pm »
As of Thursday we have new neighbours. After 20 years of a childless couple, the last 10 just the widow, who barely left the house, we now have a Family of 4, the 2 kids being (at a guess) a year 11 boy and year 10 girl.

Since they moved in a set of grandparents have been there 2 days.  Today we have 4 additional year 10 girls for what seems to be (judging by the goodie bags) a birthday party.  Isolation and social distancing - that’s for others obvs. Still it isn’t too noisy and the music’s been kept down. Oh, and the Sky van has turned up.
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Re: Tales from the Lock-Down
« Reply #576 on: June 01, 2020, 10:13:29 am »
Remember how in the 60s the standard UK roadsign for a nationally-recognized beauty spot was an old mattress in the ditch?  Back here, the rubbish tips - sorry, recycling centres - were closed during lockdown.  Now that they're open again the queues are long, so a lot of nasty bastards are using the forests instead.

I've dusted all those old bottles and set them up straight.

Re: Tales from the Lock-Down
« Reply #577 on: June 01, 2020, 11:44:47 am »
Twitter and FB is full of examples of people leaving litter all over the place.
Often, but not exclusively , features younger generation with alcohol and nitrous oxide canisters.
Seems to be two factions , those who want to save the planet and those who don't give a sh1t.
As there's no shopping or sport to go to , they have all suddenly discovered the countryside.
Right to roam or even drive in some cases, walk their dogs,  , picnic, camp  , defecate etc. seems to becoming an assumed right.
From sending out drones at the start of the lockdown, police seem to have given up.

Fly tipping at the moments seems to be the small scale stuff from households because industry is only working at half cock anyway.
Other place to dump rubbish locally is  the dooorway of the local Oxfam shop, even though they have put notices in all the windows asking people to desist.
I don't know if it's coincidence or something done by Oxfam or the local council but there is now a skip in situ.

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Re: Tales from the Lock-Down
« Reply #578 on: June 01, 2020, 11:57:17 am »
Remember how in the 60s the standard UK roadsign for a nationally-recognized beauty spot was an old mattress in the ditch?  Back here, the rubbish tips - sorry, recycling centres - were closed during lockdown.  Now that they're open again the queues are long, so a lot of nasty bastards are using the forests instead.

Here in sunny E17 the mattresses are just dumped on the streets and left to fend for themselves.  It's heartbreaking.

Note to self: turn "Mattresses of Walthamstow" calendar to June.
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Re: Tales from the Lock-Down
« Reply #579 on: June 01, 2020, 12:01:53 pm »
Given all the fast-food franchises now appear open, so is littering season. I wasn't missing the piles of McDonalds and KFC detritus. I've never really understood where the McD's stuff comes from (McDonalds, ian, McDonalds!) – no, I mean, the nearest McDs is miles away. I guess people buy it, drive several miles, and then eat it here and tip the waste out of the car window. Or they eat it there, drive all the way home, and then tip it ought of the window. Also, out in the country, a mile or so from anywhere, and you'll find the remains of an McD meal.

I did recover a Pret hot drink container from the garden yesterday. Again, the nearest Pret is in Croydon and posher than the average litterer, but that's seven-ish miles away.

Fly-tipping is sadly a regular interruption on our walks. Often off main roads, but again, sometimes people have driven quite a way down bumpy lanes to dump a fridge. Surely more effort than getting rid of properly. There was one of 'licensed' waste disposal vans in front of me the other day, one flat rear tire flobbling along, and the delicate waft of freon in its wake. I don't have much faith that won't end up blocking some country lane.
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Re: Tales from the Lock-Down
« Reply #580 on: June 01, 2020, 01:21:47 pm »
There is loads of litter out at the moment. Normally I'd go pick it up as a member of the local wombles group but under the current circumstances I'm a bit reluctant to pick up other people's rubbish even if using a picker and disposable gloves

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Re: Tales from the Lock-Down
« Reply #581 on: June 01, 2020, 02:35:27 pm »
Given all the fast-food franchises now appear open, so is littering season. I wasn't missing the piles of McDonalds and KFC detritus. I've never really understood where the McD's stuff comes from (McDonalds, ian, McDonalds!) – no, I mean, the nearest McDs is miles away. I guess people buy it, drive several miles, and then eat it here and tip the waste out of the car window. Or they eat it there, drive all the way home, and then tip it ought of the window. Also, out in the country, a mile or so from anywhere, and you'll find the remains of an McD meal.

Quaint, genteel Whitstable has mostly resisted the fast food chains so far - in the town centre, at least. There's long been a McD's on the outskirts of town. Then a few years ago, a KFC opened next to the McD's.

I saw the first KFC litter on Whitstable high street the morning after it opened.  >:(

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Re: Tales from the Lock-Down
« Reply #582 on: June 01, 2020, 03:11:55 pm »
The KFC I understand, at least there's one in town, and you can calculate it's precise location using the litter radius and the time it takes to drop the greasy packaging and finally, the point where they bore of drinking the giant cup of sugary water and decide to leave it perched on a garden wall.

There's no McD even close, but it's a consistent source of litter on local roads.

Personally, I'd make the vendor liable for the clean-up, but I guess holding them responsible for the effects of output is just so unreasonable and they should simply be allowed to make their profits while the rest of us pay to clean up the mess (and for the health costs).

The other major source of litter is the school kids, they steam through chucking out a steady stream of Capri Sun pouches, chocolate wrappers, and crisp packets twice a day, so their absence has been nice.
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Re: Tales from the Lock-Down
« Reply #583 on: June 01, 2020, 03:43:51 pm »
The KFC I understand, at least there's one in town, and you can calculate it's precise location using the litter radius and the time it takes to drop the greasy packaging and finally, the point where they bore of drinking the giant cup of sugary water and decide to leave it perched on a garden wall.

There's no McD even close, but it's a consistent source of litter on local roads.

Personally, I'd make the vendor liable for the clean-up, but I guess holding them responsible for the effects of output is just so unreasonable and they should simply be allowed to make their profits while the rest of us pay to clean up the mess (and for the health costs).

The other major source of litter is the school kids, they steam through chucking out a steady stream of Capri Sun pouches, chocolate wrappers, and crisp packets twice a day, so their absence has been nice.

There is often a 'clean up' requirement imposed when fast food restaurants/drive throughs are opened.  Problem is when they're on the border of jurisdictions...
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Re: Tales from the Lock-Down
« Reply #584 on: June 01, 2020, 03:44:08 pm »
McD's stuff is usually chucked away piecemeal. Pics I've seen of stuff dumped in the forest show more like a car-trailerful at a time.
I've dusted all those old bottles and set them up straight.

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Re: Tales from the Lock-Down
« Reply #585 on: June 01, 2020, 03:48:51 pm »
They could ask for ID and dot matrix print the post code of the buyer on the packaging.
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Re: Tales from the Lock-Down
« Reply #586 on: June 01, 2020, 03:56:59 pm »
The KFC I understand, at least there's one in town, and you can calculate it's precise location using the litter radius and the time it takes to drop the greasy packaging and finally, the point where they bore of drinking the giant cup of sugary water and decide to leave it perched on a garden wall.

There's no McD even close, but it's a consistent source of litter on local roads.

Personally, I'd make the vendor liable for the clean-up, but I guess holding them responsible for the effects of output is just so unreasonable and they should simply be allowed to make their profits while the rest of us pay to clean up the mess (and for the health costs).

The other major source of litter is the school kids, they steam through chucking out a steady stream of Capri Sun pouches, chocolate wrappers, and crisp packets twice a day, so their absence has been nice.

There is often a 'clean up' requirement imposed when fast food restaurants/drive throughs are opened.  Problem is when they're on the border of jurisdictions...

The council is just wishy-washy on everything. Same with the local school, the littering is of course, of concern, and they care a lot, but they don't commit to anything. Write to the council, well, of course, it's a concern, and they care a lot, but you know, well.

In Croydon, we had street wardens etc. Stuff would get done fairly promptly. Here? I think it's the lassitude from knowing that nothing in Surrey will change, so why bother potentially upsetting anyone.
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Re: Tales from the Lock-Down
« Reply #587 on: June 01, 2020, 05:44:07 pm »
They could ask for ID and dot matrix print the post code of the buyer on the packaging.

Or have a hidden pre printed code that is tied to the payment card?
But introduce take away T&C's that say it's £50 for every single wrapper found in the wild.
Fine shared with local council (for litter collection), NHS for health effects, and finally the exchequer as a way of recovering the avoided taxes by multi-national scumbags.

Or have a deposit scheme that the fast food firm has to administer.

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Re: Tales from the Lock-Down
« Reply #588 on: June 01, 2020, 07:02:21 pm »
They could serve food on plates, with a knife and fork...

Anyway, in lockdown news, the cars are back.  Properly this time.

Saw a couple of kids in school uniform, too.  Poor sods.
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Re: Tales from the Lock-Down
« Reply #589 on: June 01, 2020, 07:13:51 pm »
Plates? It'll never catch on. Maybe old pieces of school blackboard with GCSE chalk dust, or artisan mill stones, broken window panes, something like that...
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Re: Tales from the Lock-Down
« Reply #590 on: June 01, 2020, 07:16:50 pm »
Plates? It'll never catch on. Maybe old pieces of school blackboard with GCSE chalk dust, or artisan mill stones, broken window panes, something like that...

All far too hygienic

Maybe try bed pans, or shoes or... just look at @wewantplates on twitter for the horrors out there...

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Re: Tales from the Lock-Down
« Reply #591 on: June 01, 2020, 07:21:53 pm »
My tour operator has cancelled my holiday in Italy  :thumbsup:

They offered a refund but I think I'll rebook for 2021.
Sic transit and all that..

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Re: Tales from the Lock-Down
« Reply #592 on: June 01, 2020, 09:43:31 pm »
Plates? It'll never catch on. Maybe old pieces of school blackboard with GCSE chalk dust, or artisan mill stones, broken window panes, something like that...

All far too hygienic

Maybe try bed pans, or shoes or... just look at @wewantplates on twitter for the horrors out there...

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Re: Tales from the Lock-Down
« Reply #593 on: June 01, 2020, 10:59:45 pm »
Some people are getting too much sunbathing time but paying too little attention to detail.
Yersterday in thr queueueueueue for a national chain of home improvement detritus, a senior gent was standing 4 or 5 2 meter zones behind me. He was wearing an open button up shirt displaying his magnidicent tan- and his moob anti shadow.
A man more in need of weighted nipple clamps I have never seen. Apply clamps and throw the weights over the shoulder to expose the untanned flesh.
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Re: Tales from the Lock-Down
« Reply #594 on: June 02, 2020, 09:40:14 am »
Our post has got very odd in the last couple of months...  We normally get a delivery about 2.00 pm (we've not had a morning delivery for several years) but that's got pushed back during lockdown...

.. but yesterday was something else.  Our postman delivered at 8.15 p.m
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Re: Tales from the Lock-Down
« Reply #595 on: June 02, 2020, 10:05:05 am »
Just been to Mr Sainsbury's House Of Toothy Comestibles.  No queueueueue.  Amazeballs!
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Re: Tales from the Lock-Down
« Reply #596 on: June 04, 2020, 01:48:10 pm »
Our first trip out to the beach today.  Chose a remote one that has no village or buildings of any type nearby.  (Penbryn)
Fantastic!  We were completely alone on a huge long beach. The dog was ecstatic.
A bit further than the Welsh 5 mile limit, but the govt did suggest that this could be extended in rural areas.
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Re: Tales from the Lock-Down
« Reply #597 on: June 05, 2020, 09:41:27 pm »
My colleague Martin has an interest in vintage clothing, which one way or another has led to him selling rather natty handmade face masks on Etsy.

As of today, he is my ex-colleague, and will now be focusing on the clothing business full time.

Following the news that we will be legally required to wear face masks on public transport, I shall be putting some business his way before the office re-opens...

https://www.etsy.com/uk/shop/SidewinderApparel

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Re: Tales from the Lock-Down
« Reply #598 on: June 08, 2020, 10:03:21 am »
https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2020/jun/08/wilko-johnson-musician-on-life-in-lockdown-i-feel-grateful-to-be-alive

Wilko may be pleased to learn that his local, the Railway Hotel in Southend, is serving their famous vegan food via Deliveroo. We had some on Friday. It seems the vegan "fish" has banana blossom as one of its ingredients. It's the first time I had it. To be honest I will get the real thing rom the chip shop across the road next time, despite the fact that the Railway is run by friends of ours. Preferable, and half the price, and I can walk across the road to get it. The chips from the Railway were superb though.

Of course, there are other choices from the Railway and their vegan pizzas are very good.
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Re: Tales from the Lock-Down
« Reply #599 on: June 24, 2020, 03:15:17 pm »
The scene: Company results thing, talking about "restructuring" and reduced costs.
Boss 1: We've lost a few people through Covid.
Boss 2: In terms of them not being here, not through them being dead.
It's NZ, so the sensitivities are different, apart from anything else.
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