Author Topic: New gps  (Read 1689 times)

Re: New gps
« Reply #50 on: June 22, 2020, 09:36:54 pm »
In bright sunlight I am able to peer across at Mrs h's handlebars when we're riding alongside each other and I can see the display on her Wahoo Roam clearly.
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Re: New gps
« Reply #51 on: June 22, 2020, 09:56:43 pm »
I know two people who, on ultracycling events, have gone the wrong direction after a stop, back the way they came, for several hours. I don't know how they have their systems set up but can't imagine that type of major error could occur with North at the top!

That's a UI design issue though. My app draws a much thicker line in the direction you're meant to be going* and a track of where you've been**. Solving it with north as up seems brute force, but maybe it works for you.

Version 1.0 of my app was north up only and I could never get my head around junctions when travelling south.

* on iOS, never made it work on Android
** Well it would if I ever released the new version.

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Re: New gps
« Reply #52 on: June 22, 2020, 10:02:42 pm »

That's my point; lots of people are fine with direction of travel at the top, like a car satnav. It makes it easier to turn the right way, esp when heading south, at the cost of having a less clear view of where you are and which direction you are heading in.
I know two people who, on ultracycling events, have gone the wrong direction after a stop, back the way they came, for several hours. I don't know how they have their systems set up but can't imagine that type of major error could occur with North at the top!

I have mine set to forward up. If I was to turn the wrong way out of a stop, it would beep like buggery. I wonder what devices they had...

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Re: New gps
« Reply #53 on: June 22, 2020, 10:11:04 pm »
I use forward-up on my eTrex, as it makes better use of the available portrait screen space (in general when cycling I'm more interested in what's approximately in front of me).  But north up is the only sensible way to use an Ordnance Survey map[1], so that's how I have Viewranger configured on my Androids.

IIRC the Garmin is set to switch to north-up below some zoom level that you almost never[2] use.  That makes sense.


[1] Which are stored as bitmaps (images) rather than vectors (mathematical shapes), so the text and symbols can't be automagically rendered the right way up at all times.
[2] Given the lack of pixels, once you're at the 10km zoom level or whatever, about the only useful thing you're going to be doing is eyeballing the shape of a track/route to make sure it's the one you're thinking of.
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Re: New gps
« Reply #54 on: June 23, 2020, 01:38:06 pm »
I guess in an ultracycling event you might be adapting your route on the go in response to events (weather, roadworks, rivals' positions, news of the best pizza, minor wars, closed borders, epidemics,...) so wouldn't notice that you were off course, cos you're always/never off-course, you're just heading in the wrong/right direction. In which case a north-up orientation shows that you're still heading generally east, or whichever direction.

A rather different situation from audax though.
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Re: New gps
« Reply #55 on: June 23, 2020, 07:46:41 pm »
I have my etrex map page in automotive display mode, so closer to how a car sat nav display looks.

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Re: New gps
« Reply #56 on: June 23, 2020, 08:56:30 pm »
I have my etrex map page in automotive display mode, so closer to how a car sat nav display looks.

Whereas I tend to set car satnavs to a 2D map view :)
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Re: New gps
« Reply #57 on: June 23, 2020, 09:22:37 pm »
...it involves a learning curve and varying degrees of fucking around and pre-ride homework...

I think this is the thing about GPS devices that people don't get.

The above sums these devices up perfectly

Whatvever brand/model you end up buying it will take some effort to learn its querks before being able to get the most out of it.

I can't offer any insight on the relevent question of which unit would be best though as I'm still using rather obsolete Garmin Edge 705. I do sometimes think about updating to something more up to date but so long as it keeps on working I'll probably stick with it.

Re: New gps
« Reply #58 on: June 23, 2020, 09:54:06 pm »
I guess in an ultracycling event you might be adapting your route on the go in response to events (weather, roadworks, rivals' positions, news of the best pizza, minor wars, closed borders, epidemics,...) so wouldn't notice that you were off course, cos you're always/never off-course, you're just heading in the wrong/right direction. In which case a north-up orientation shows that you're still heading generally east, or whichever direction.

A rather different situation from audax though.

No, not that it's relevant to the op but both were defined routes (Trans-Am and indypac)

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Re: New gps
« Reply #59 on: June 25, 2020, 09:36:30 am »
I used to be a Garmin fan... but I'm afraid I'm now a Wahooligan when it comes to the bike.  The ease of use is the winner for me.   Garmin is now relegated to when I need OS maps for walking or geocaching.
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Re: New gps
« Reply #60 on: June 27, 2020, 11:23:17 am »
Has anyone upgraded from a Wahoo Bolt to a Roam.   Was it really worth it ?    I love my Bolt after being let down by a number of Garmins

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Re: New gps
« Reply #61 on: June 30, 2020, 09:17:13 am »
Has anyone upgraded from a Wahoo Bolt to a Roam.   Was it really worth it ?    I love my Bolt after being let down by a number of Garmins

I'm very tempted to.
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