Author Topic: The Vicissitudes of Ageing  (Read 4403 times)

TimC

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Re: The Vicissitudes of Ageing
« Reply #50 on: August 14, 2020, 03:54:14 pm »
Having had pericarditis a couple of years ago, and diagnosed on a regular aircrew medical with a mildly ectopic heartbeat (for which the CAA required twice-yearly Holter tests), I decided to do my own monitoring and bought a Kardia personal ECG device. Giving up the rather stupid lifestyle that I've lived for the last 45 years has helped, and I now know that my heartbeat is generally normal with only very occasional lapses into ectopia (if that's a thing!). Having been extremely fit in my youth and early adult years (up to around 40), I assume this is essentially 'athlete's heart syndrome' and bears careful watching - my RHR is around 46, max around 180, and BP around 116/78, so all else appears normal. I shall do all in my power to avoid having to take any drugs whatsoever, if possible, so my diet has improved markedly and I am cycling more (and more sensibly) than was the case. Wine is still a weakness, but I'm not giving that up! Of course, something will get me but I'm going to make it it as difficult for the Grim reaper as possible...

T42

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Re: The Vicissitudes of Ageing
« Reply #51 on: August 14, 2020, 04:16:28 pm »
...I shall do all in my power to avoid having to take any drugs whatsoever, if possible, so my diet has improved markedly and I am cycling more (and more sensibly) than was the case. Wine is still a weakness, but I'm not giving that up! Of course, something will get me but I'm going to make it it as difficult for the Grim reaper as possible...

Good luck with that. I remarked to MrsT this morning that I am heartily sick of measuring my life out in pills (e.g. I just calculated that I have taken 4524 doses of clopdigrel since 2008) and prescriptions.  I suppose that's preferable to not having a life to measure but it's still bloody depressing.

T'other thing, of course, is that appointments with specialists always fall bang in the middle of perfect cycling days.
I've dusted all those old bottles and set them up straight.

TimC

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Re: The Vicissitudes of Ageing
« Reply #52 on: August 14, 2020, 04:22:02 pm »
...I shall do all in my power to avoid having to take any drugs whatsoever, if possible, so my diet has improved markedly and I am cycling more (and more sensibly) than was the case. Wine is still a weakness, but I'm not giving that up! Of course, something will get me but I'm going to make it it as difficult for the Grim reaper as possible...

Good luck with that. I remarked to MrsT this morning that I am heartily sick of measuring my life out in pills (e.g. I just calculated that I have taken 4524 doses of clopdigrel since 2008) and prescriptions.  I suppose that's preferable to not having a life to measure but it's still bloody depressing.

T'other thing, of course, is that appointments with specialists always fall bang in the middle of perfect cycling days.

Yes, I'm aware that there's more than a small element of luck in this. I've gotten away with abusing my body for many years, and I have to accept that statistically I should be in a much worse place than I am. I am sure it will all catch up with me eventually. For now, I will enjoy what I have and do what I can to continue doing so for as long as possible. In so many ways, it could all change tomorrow.

Nelson Longflap

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Re: The Vicissitudes of Ageing
« Reply #53 on: August 15, 2020, 09:28:52 pm »
A wise man once told me that ageing isn't just to do with the number of laps around the sun; you're as old as the number of pills you have to take every day ...
The worst thing you can do for your health is NOT ride a bike

Re: The Vicissitudes of Ageing
« Reply #54 on: August 15, 2020, 10:08:18 pm »

Good luck with that. I remarked to MrsT this morning that I am heartily sick of measuring my life out in pills (e.g. I just calculated that I have taken 4524 doses of clopdigrel since 2008) and prescriptions.  I suppose that's preferable to not having a life to measure but it's still bloody depressing.


You reminded me of a 14m long installation I saw a few years ago at the Wellcome gallery - of all the pills taken in a lifetime. http://www.pharmacopoeia-art.net/articles/in-sickness-and-in-health/

Wowbagger

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Re: The Vicissitudes of Ageing
« Reply #55 on: August 16, 2020, 12:11:47 am »
I can't recall whether it was before or after his kidney transplant, but there was one year in which Dez took more than 10000 tablets - he probably still does but it's been normal and unremarkable for about 15 years. He's 41.
Eating's a serious business. Don't bollocks around wagging your tail.

T42

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Re: The Vicissitudes of Ageing
« Reply #56 on: August 16, 2020, 09:58:12 am »
I can't recall whether it was before or after his kidney transplant, but there was one year in which Dez took more than 10000 tablets - he probably still does but it's been normal and unremarkable for about 15 years. He's 41.

I remember visiting a couple years ago where the woman had eaten something dire by mistake and nearly died of kidney damage.  She had around a dozen different pills to take with every meal.

Right now I have 6 pills a day, but around 10 years ago it was more like a dozen. :(
I've dusted all those old bottles and set them up straight.

hellymedic

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Re: The Vicissitudes of Ageing
« Reply #57 on: August 16, 2020, 05:05:29 pm »
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T42

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Re: The Vicissitudes of Ageing
« Reply #58 on: August 16, 2020, 05:13:55 pm »
My mum gave me cod liver oil once when I was a nipper.  I puked.
I've dusted all those old bottles and set them up straight.

hellymedic

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Re: The Vicissitudes of Ageing
« Reply #59 on: August 16, 2020, 05:18:55 pm »
Cod liver oil is horrible.
Cod livers are quite tasty, as my Mum pointed out when she fed them to us as nippers on visits to Denmark.
Seven Seas capsules prevent actual tasting of enclosed liquid.

Re: The Vicissitudes of Ageing
« Reply #60 on: August 16, 2020, 07:24:21 pm »
I used to love popping the cod liver oil capsules I was given. And I got Haliborange tablets too. The think I hated was the heaped teaspoonful of malt  :sick: 
We are making a New World (Paul Nash, 1918)

hellymedic

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Re: The Vicissitudes of Ageing
« Reply #61 on: August 16, 2020, 07:44:55 pm »
Malt & Cod Liver Oil was a really VILE substance I was given for my chilblains.

Re: The Vicissitudes of Ageing
« Reply #62 on: August 16, 2020, 07:56:04 pm »
The only time I think I totally said no to my mother was over some vile concoction she wanted to feed us. I must have been about 10 and just refused. Point blank. It was never mentioned again.

hellymedic

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Re: The Vicissitudes of Ageing
« Reply #63 on: August 16, 2020, 09:12:24 pm »
Given that we are approximately the same age, it might have been this stuff.

It was available on prescription until the ACBS classed it as a food.

offcumden

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Re: The Vicissitudes of Ageing
« Reply #64 on: August 16, 2020, 09:27:13 pm »
Malt & Cod Liver Oil was a really VILE substance I was given for my chilblains.
Did you swallow it, or did you rub it in? ;)

And did it work?

hellymedic

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Re: The Vicissitudes of Ageing
« Reply #65 on: August 16, 2020, 09:36:51 pm »
Swallowed by the heaped teaspoonful.
Had the consistency of honey but was less sweet & sticky.

I don't think it worked.

Little did.

I outgrew my tendency to chilblains at 14 but had them again one winter in the early 2000s.

T42

  • Old fool in a hurry
Re: The Vicissitudes of Ageing
« Reply #66 on: August 17, 2020, 07:38:40 am »
Malt & Cod Liver Oil was a really VILE substance I was given for my chilblains.

School chum of mine used it to make beer without reading the label.  :sick:
I've dusted all those old bottles and set them up straight.

Re: The Vicissitudes of Ageing
« Reply #67 on: August 17, 2020, 01:34:25 pm »
Given that we are approximately the same age, it might have been this stuff.

It was available on prescription until the ACBS classed it as a food.

I don't think so, mine was a white liquid and was called cambridge emulsion or something similar.  Total quack medicine

Re: The Vicissitudes of Ageing
« Reply #68 on: August 17, 2020, 01:36:50 pm »
Excellent stuff - we used it on our outside bog.

Salvatore

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Re: The Vicissitudes of Ageing
« Reply #69 on: August 20, 2020, 01:05:10 pm »
Given that we are approximately the same age, it might have been this stuff.

It was available on prescription until the ACBS classed it as a food.

I don't think so, mine was a white liquid and was called cambridge emulsion or something similar.  Total quack medicine

Scott's emulsion? My grandfather swore by it
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Re: The Vicissitudes of Ageing
« Reply #70 on: August 20, 2020, 01:18:19 pm »
On a different note, as part of the latest Rouleur podcast there's an interview with Norman Lazarus - now 84, many here will know him from his Audax days - about ageing and how to combat its effects. And if you like the interview you can buy the book he's just had published

His bit starts at about 13 minutes in https://www.radio-uk.co.uk/podcasts/the-rouleur-podcast
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Re: The Vicissitudes of Ageing
« Reply #71 on: August 20, 2020, 02:02:43 pm »
Thanks Salvatore, a good listen.

Re: The Vicissitudes of Ageing
« Reply #72 on: August 20, 2020, 05:23:44 pm »
Given that we are approximately the same age, it might have been this stuff.

It was available on prescription until the ACBS classed it as a food.

I don't think so, mine was a white liquid and was called cambridge emulsion or something similar.  Total quack medicine
Could have been. I like cod liver mild capsules but hated that stuff.

Scott's emulsion? My grandfather swore by it


Re: The Vicissitudes of Ageing
« Reply #73 on: August 20, 2020, 10:44:17 pm »
Cod liver oil is how they discovered that my mother couldn't digest meat and fish fats. 80+ years a vegetarian since then.
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Re: The Vicissitudes of Ageing
« Reply #74 on: August 25, 2020, 07:58:59 pm »
Most people I know seem to be on prescription meds.   Mrs A is on a shipload, a very careful diet and has a device implanted to record heart rate after she went unconscious a year back. Gave us all a heck of fright and we called the ambulance but she's soldiering on now ok.  Can't drive and gave up riding a bike years ago.  She's now outlived every member of her family she has known by several years.
Sic transit and all that..