Author Topic: e-scooter trial (Read 13448 times)

DrMekon · « **Reply #50 on:** July 07, 2020, 04:07:30 pm »

Love the dualtron thunder. Have thought long and hard about getting a dualtron compact or a zero 10x. Would be doable to commute on them If I was being sensible, all I would need is a Ninebot g30 but with the scooterhacking app unlocking extra torque.

Obviously, if EUCs were legal, I'd get a Veteran Sherman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2OwOEHQ4vA?t=206

Chris S · « **Reply #51 on:** July 07, 2020, 05:35:34 pm »

Quote from: DrMekon on July 07, 2020, 04:07:30 pm

Love the dualtron thunder. Have thought long and hard about getting a dualtron compact or a zero 10x. Would be doable to commute on them If I was being sensible, all I would need is a Ninebot g30 but with the scooterhacking app unlocking extra torque.

Obviously, if EUCs were legal, I'd get a Veteran Sherman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2OwOEHQ4vA?t=206

OMG! WAAAAAANT!

(OK, not really. The guy who lives inside me who is forever 16 wants one).

fboab · « **Reply #52 on:** July 08, 2020, 08:52:37 am »

Quote from: aidan.f on July 03, 2020, 09:09:33 pm

Heard a headline on the news that the trial is planned for Middlesbrough.

The same Middlesbrough where some charmers pushed a woman off her bike to steal it?
The same Middlesbrough that features Ormesby Bank?
The same Middlesbrough whose idea of cycle facilities is a rat-ridden gully full of refuse they wouldn't take at the tip?

Interesting

Kim · « **Reply #53 on:** July 08, 2020, 01:00:41 pm »

Last thing I'd heard, they were considering Birmingham, for broadly similar reasons. Maybe the spate of canal-pushings changed their mind.

Cudzoziemiec · « **Reply #54 on:** July 08, 2020, 02:31:29 pm »

They're restricting it to the North-East initially, for some reason. And they're keeping it small. Very small.

Quote

One hundred scooters will be available for rent in Teesside, Darlington and Hartlepool later in July, Tees Valley mayor Ben Houchen said.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-53272688

Kim · « **Reply #55 on:** July 08, 2020, 02:37:43 pm »

There was a lot of noise back in May about it happening in Brum, and now ...suspiciously nothing. It's the hire bikes all over again.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=e-scooter+trial+birmingham

andrewc · « **Reply #56 on:** July 08, 2020, 03:29:48 pm »

Quote from: Cudzoziemiec on July 08, 2020, 02:31:29 pm

They're restricting it to the North-East initially, for some reason. And they're keeping it small. Very small.
Quote
One hundred scooters will be available for rent in Teesside, Darlington and Hartlepool later in July, Tees Valley mayor Ben Houchen said.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-53272688

Time for Deano to do some comedy offroading on a mildly inappropriate scooter ?

Cudzoziemiec · « **Reply #57 on:** July 08, 2020, 05:14:56 pm »

They might be more than mildly inappropriate for some of Deano's "roads".

DuncanM · « **Reply #58 on:** July 12, 2020, 02:40:29 pm »

This is interesting. Wonder how the lawsuit went...
https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/24/20696405/dockless-scooters-share-repo-men-repossessor-lawsuit-tow-yard-lime-bird-lyft-uber-razor

fd3 · « **Reply #59 on:** July 12, 2020, 04:08:43 pm »

Quote from: Kim on July 08, 2020, 02:37:43 pm

There was a lot of noise back in May about it happening in Brum, and now ...suspiciously nothing. It's the hire bikes all over again.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=e-scooter+trial+birmingham

Yeah, way I heard it it was a done deal. A great success for our regional mayor I believe.

Cudzoziemiec · « **Reply #60 on:** July 12, 2020, 04:27:27 pm »

Quote from: DuncanM on July 12, 2020, 02:40:29 pm

This is interesting. Wonder how the lawsuit went...
https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/24/20696405/dockless-scooters-share-repo-men-repossessor-lawsuit-tow-yard-lime-bird-lyft-uber-razor

So one lot of people get paid for leaving scooters in places and another lot of people get paid for taking them away. Is this what they mean by the circular economy?

Kim · « **Reply #61 on:** July 13, 2020, 11:07:30 pm »

Looks like they actually exist: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-tees-53397217/middlesbrough-e-scooters-town-is-first-place-for-trial

Cudzoziemiec · « **Reply #62 on:** July 14, 2020, 08:06:21 am »

Good, but £2 for 20 minutes! Mind you, if you compare it to a bus fare or driving costs, rather than £1 per hour for a scatter hire bike, I suppose it's okay.

grams · « **Reply #63 on:** July 14, 2020, 09:04:16 am »

Lime Ebikes here are £1 to unlock and 15p/minute (20 minutes = £4), and those are apparently popular. People compare to Uber not buses.

This is in the Smoke and not some backwater though.

Cudzoziemiec · « **Reply #64 on:** July 14, 2020, 09:49:55 am »

Wow! Yo Bikes in Bristol cost £1 an hour, with a £5 maximum charge per 24 hours and you can even get an annual season ticket which costs £39.

grams · « **Reply #65 on:** July 14, 2020, 10:42:03 am »

Lime Bikes are electric, Yo Bikes aren't. Different market. I rarely saw anyone using the non-electric dockless bikes that briefly cluttered our pavements before the VCs got bored.

e-Scooters will be a different market still, as no chance of being mistaken for a sweaty cyclist.

Cudzoziemiec · « **Reply #66 on:** July 14, 2020, 10:43:45 am »

ian · « **Reply #67 on:** July 14, 2020, 10:44:40 am »

Venture capitalists.

They throw their money at these things (or someone else's money usually) and then we throw those things in the canal.

quixoticgeek · « **Reply #68 on:** July 14, 2020, 11:53:14 am »

Quote from: ian on July 14, 2020, 10:44:40 am

Venture capitalists.

They throw their money at these things (or someone else's money usually) and then we throw those things in the canal.

You seem to have a typo, did autocarrot mess with our post. ITYM Vulture Capitalists...

J

graculus · « **Reply #69 on:** July 14, 2020, 03:23:45 pm »

Saturday's ~~Excess & Car~~ Express & Star revealed that companies have until 29th July to bid for the contract to provide trial e-scooters in the West Midlands.
"TIER is one of the firms....scooters designed with large front wheels for stability"
An ordinary scooter?

DuncanM · « **Reply #70 on:** July 14, 2020, 04:15:12 pm »

Quote from: quixoticgeek on July 14, 2020, 11:53:14 am

Quote from: ian on July 14, 2020, 10:44:40 am
Venture capitalists.

They throw their money at these things (or someone else's money usually) and then we throw those things in the canal.

You seem to have a typo, did autocarrot mess with our post. ITYM Vulture Capitalists...

J

In the case of dockless bikes, venture capitalist is much more accurate. At least until after all their bikes have been thrown in the canal and they are broke.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulture_capitalist

quixoticgeek · « **Reply #71 on:** July 18, 2020, 11:39:00 pm »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-53447777

J

Cudzoziemiec · « **Reply #72 on:** July 19, 2020, 10:43:15 am »

Ginger as in Segway, presumably.

grams · « **Reply #73 on:** July 19, 2020, 10:47:16 am »

"Teeside Park" looks to be the kind of retail park shithole that's only reachable by dual carriageway, so the council only have themselves to blame for allowing the thing to be built like that.

(and I think it's legal to cycle on those dual carriageways too)

fboab · « **Reply #74 on:** July 30, 2020, 10:02:39 am »

Quote from: ian on July 14, 2020, 10:44:40 am

Venture capitalists.

They throw their money at these things (or someone else's money usually) and then we throw those things in the canal.

No canals in 'boro'.

We have the Mighty Tees for that.

Quote from: grams on July 19, 2020, 10:47:16 am

"Teeside Park" looks to be the kind of retail park shithole that's only reachable by dual carriageway, so the council only have themselves to blame for allowing the thing to be built like that.
(and I think it's legal to cycle on those dual carriageways too)

Not quite true. There are SEEKRIT CYCLEWAYS (with steps, natch

) in to it. I think it's only the Tees Viaduct on the A19 which is not legal for cycles - although the signage unhelpfully makes the rule-obedient Mr Smith slightly guilty every trip as it bans cyclists, rather than cycling.
Dual carriageway underestimates the traffic somewhat - it's a 4 lane interchange with the A19 & A66 which funnels all local traffic NS/EW