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Recommend Me a Printer
« on: July 09, 2020, 06:43:24 pm »
As per title.

Our beloved cheap Kodak died in the house move.

Looking for a replacement without much knowledge.  Budget £100-200.  Inkjet probably.  Cost of replacement cartridges reasonably important.   Mrs Rob, being an accountant, needs to print a reasonable amount of docs for work.

Thanks


Rob

Re: Recommend Me a Printer
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2020, 06:52:28 pm »
As an accountant surely she can claim the cost of the printer against tax?  I’d look for a basic black and white laser printer, and find out how to reset the copy count so you get full value.
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Re: Recommend Me a Printer
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2020, 07:21:08 pm »
Don't waste your money on an inkjet - you can get a cheap mono laser (Samsung?) for less than £100 - and then buy non-OEM cartridges. 

Rob

Re: Recommend Me a Printer
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2020, 07:22:15 pm »
We've recently got an EPSON ET-2720. The ink comes in bottles, and it really doesn't seem to use much at all, and the levels are visible from the front.

Obviously it's connected by WiFi and it just worked with both PCs and Macs.

Rumour has it that this printer, like most / all Epson inkjets, counts how much ink has been dumped into the big felt pad, and will brick when it's considered full, which is actually about half full.



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Re: Recommend Me a Printer
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2020, 07:31:52 pm »
+1 to robgul's comment. I have a HP P1005 which was similarly cheap - and may no longer be in production so look at bargain-priced laser printers because you can go as long as you want between using it and it still works as good as when it was new and the ink will never run, although I suspect that was never a problem for you.

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Re: Recommend Me a Printer
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2020, 07:43:57 pm »
Unless you need colour, buy a mono laser. They last forever, you can get decent knock-off toner cartridges, and that's about the only faff. No cleaning nozzles or fiddling with ink. Just shove a new toner cartridge in the hole. The newer ones are even reluctant to liberally dowse you with toner, probably a good thing, an old school battle with the office photocopier would leave you looking like you'd blacked up and joined a black and white minstrel troupe. That's not a good look in the current climate.
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Re: Recommend Me a Printer
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2020, 07:49:16 pm »
Another vote for a laser. Much much better than an inkjet for black & white printing.

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Re: Recommend Me a Printer
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2020, 07:59:42 pm »
For an audaxer, laser printing has the obvious advantage of routesheets that won't run in the rain.

I have an inkjet. Last time I looked, laser printers were too expensive. I guess I wasn't looking in the right place.

A laser printer would be very useful for work reasons right now - one small but vitally important aspect of my job is ensuring printed barcodes scan correctly (before they're published). Back in the good old days when we were office-based, as well as having proper big bastard laser printers, we also used to get sent cromalins from the repro house. So old school. Now it feels more like making a fanzine. Constantly have to remind myself that we don't have to Roneo copies to send to subscribers.
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Re: Recommend Me a Printer
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2020, 08:03:06 pm »
It's a shame they don't make Laserjet 4000s any more.
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Re: Recommend Me a Printer
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2020, 08:29:58 pm »
It's a shame they don't make Laserjet 4000s any more.

Yes, agree.
But mine has started paper-jamming and is in need of fettling.

For the OP, the use scenario very much indicates a laser.
There are reasonable mono lasers out there, but I do like my HP4000.

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Re: Recommend Me a Printer
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2020, 08:31:37 pm »
For the OP, the use scenario very much indicates a laser.

Am I right in thinking the cost per page is significantly lower with lasers?
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Re: Recommend Me a Printer
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2020, 08:35:27 pm »
Brother DCP 7055W. or latest equivalent, scans, photocopies and prints very reasonable running costs.
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Re: Recommend Me a Printer
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2020, 08:47:06 pm »
I have been informed that we need colour for some of Juniors stuff, but I think this is a small percentage of the general use.

Will look for a laser jet.

Thanks a lot.


Rob

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Re: Recommend Me a Printer
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2020, 09:14:23 pm »
For an audaxer, laser printing has the obvious advantage of routesheets that won't run in the rain.

I have an inkjet. Last time I looked, laser printers were too expensive. I guess I wasn't looking in the right place.

A laser printer would be very useful for work reasons right now - one small but vitally important aspect of my job is ensuring printed barcodes scan correctly (before they're published). Back in the good old days when we were office-based, as well as having proper big bastard laser printers, we also used to get sent cromalins from the repro house. So old school. Now it feels more like making a fanzine. Constantly have to remind myself that we don't have to Roneo copies to send to subscribers.

Can't you just scan them on-screen?

I remember proper proofs. Not sure anyone else does these days.

Lasers are fairly inexpensive these days, they only really looked expensive because inkjets were sold below cost on account they'd then stuff you for the ink.
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Re: Recommend Me a Printer
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2020, 10:29:59 pm »
For the OP, the use scenario very much indicates a laser.

Am I right in thinking the cost per page is significantly lower with lasers?

It's approximately the cost of the paper.
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Re: Recommend Me a Printer
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2020, 10:35:51 pm »
I have been informed that we need colour for some of Juniors stuff, but I think this is a small percentage of the general use.

Will look for a laser jet.

Thanks a lot.


Rob

Then look at Brother multi-function printers. I’ve had one for 8 years, and still (after three page count resets) on the first set of toner. And it’s wireless of course.
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Re: Recommend Me a Printer
« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2020, 08:51:34 pm »
TBH the Brother wireless is a bit of a pain to set up but quality wise really good kit.
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Re: Recommend Me a Printer
« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2020, 09:10:45 pm »
TBH the Brother wireless is a bit of a pain to set up but quality wise really good kit.

Mine was quite easy, but obvs YMMV. It may be my ignorance helped   ;D
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Re: Recommend Me a Printer
« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2020, 09:19:32 pm »
I've got a Brother label printer which is allowed special dispensation to be wireless on the grounds that it's battery powered.  Other than the IPv6 implementation not working properly (haven't fully investigated, but it seems like it can't send packets beyond its own subnet or something), it seems suspiciously good at connecting to and being accessible over the network.

Needless to say, while the driver itself seems fine the Windows label-creating software is horrible, the Android app is marginally more capable than using the built-in keyboard, and the only functional Linux driver for it requires that you connect over USB.  (I could probably fix this, but life's too short to write printer drivers.)
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Re: Recommend Me a Printer
« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2020, 01:22:37 pm »
Printerland (https://www.printerland.co.uk/) seems to be a good place to browse, I'm looking to replace my 9 year old Brother, the drum is duff, punted £12 for a compatible, better but still no good, not worth £85 for the real thing. (up for grabs if someone wants it)

My current fave https://www.printerland.co.uk/product/xerox-b210/146516

(possibly, some of the Canon with cashback look appealing too)

Re: Recommend Me a Printer
« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2020, 04:32:59 pm »
I  have been using a samsung M2020 mono laser for the past 3 or so years cost less than £50 when I brought it, I have used compatible from the first replacement, think they are about £8 each if I buy 3 at a time, seem to last ages. I think it produces decent enough results, occasionally jams paper but easy to get the jammed paper out.

I also own a very elderly epson r1800 A3 inkjet which I brought via the company I worked for upgraded all the stores planning printers & sold off to staff for £5 each.

Re: Recommend Me a Printer
« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2020, 07:24:17 pm »
Toner is mostly ok in compatible guise, but drums is hit and miss. I just missed.

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Re: Recommend Me a Printer
« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2020, 11:39:24 pm »
Don't waste your money on an inkjet - you can get a cheap mono laser (Samsung?) for less than £100 - and then buy non-OEM cartridges. 

This.

Unless you are planning to print photos on a very regular basis, I would always say get a laser printer. They will pay for themselves in savings on cartridges within the life of the first pack of paper.

I have a Brother that is now 20 years old and it Just Works™. Would buy another.

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Re: Recommend Me a Printer
« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2020, 08:11:49 am »

I have a Brother that is now 20 years old and it Just Works™. Would buy another.

J

Prepare for disappointment at that stage.

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Re: Recommend Me a Printer
« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2020, 10:16:02 am »
I'm on the lookout to replace a Samsung  m2022 unless I can find a Linux mint driver that will print a pdf. Even using usb.