Author Topic: Pavé Proof Bottle Cage  (Read 2079 times)

quixoticgeek

  • Mostly Harmless
Re: Pavé Proof Bottle Cage
« Reply #50 on: September 30, 2020, 12:42:44 pm »
Have a look at the discounted sizes for bikes and clothing in the end of season sales. It is overwhelmingly the smallest sizes and, to a lesser extent, the very largest sizes. This is despite wholesalers and retailers ordering volumes on a bell curve of sizing. That suggests to me that, if anything, more average-sized stuff should be produced, rather than the smaller stuff.

Or that the smaller stuff isn't small enough...

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LittleWheelsandBig

  • Whimsy Rider
Re: Pavé Proof Bottle Cage
« Reply #51 on: September 30, 2020, 01:14:50 pm »
It is mostly XS and mostly women’s options available when I checked some random items in https://www.rapha.cc/gb/en/archive-sale/category/archivesale
Does that mean there is a huge unfulfilled demand for XXS women’s clothing?
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Cudzoziemiec

  • Eating all the pies and drinking all the tea.
Re: Pavé Proof Bottle Cage
« Reply #52 on: September 30, 2020, 01:28:20 pm »
Size labels are hugely contextual. I have clothes bought when I was in India labelled L or even XL (these are Western style clothes, not Indian). Those from Poland are mostly M and those from UK are M or even S. And when did the measured size of a pair of trousers last coincide with its declared size? "Garment inches" are far more slippery than "gear inches".
Days become simply the spaces between dreams, spaces between the shifting floors of time...

Re: Pavé Proof Bottle Cage
« Reply #53 on: September 30, 2020, 03:16:02 pm »
You think 5'8" is small for a man? My husband is 5'5" and slim... he can walk into a shop and get a pair of trousers to fit (it is his legs that are short) but it has to be the right shop (he likes Next) and he doesn't get much choice... and his feet are really size 6.5 but men's shoes usually start at size 7 so that's what he wears.
(I think short women are much worse off when it comes to bicycles, though. As I tell mr fimm, he is a short man, not a short person...)

5'5" is what my dad said was average height for Wales; he was above average, 5'5 1/2"! Above the waist he was the same size as me but his legs were a good bit shorter. He claimed it was bad feeding during the war. My mum used to cut about 8" off the legs of his trousers!
I was 6'3" at one time but I'm shrinking fast now. I claimed 1m80 for my passport in june but I've probably lost another cm since then. Question is will the tomb get me before my coffin has got reasonably cheap!

Re: Pavé Proof Bottle Cage
« Reply #54 on: September 30, 2020, 03:32:33 pm »
It is mostly XS and mostly women’s options available when I checked some random items in https://www.rapha.cc/gb/en/archive-sale/category/archivesale
Does that mean there is a huge unfulfilled demand for XXS women’s clothing?

I saw some Rapha XXS stuff in person at an outlet sale they had round here once. It was tiny. I don't know who wears it.

Re: bike sizing, I quite like being 5'7" as I get the pick of both men's and women's bikes. However, even with my fairly run-of-the-mill bike sizes (54cm or thereabouts), I often have to go for side-access bottle cages if I want to use anything bigger than 500ml. I do rather envy the giants who can ride big bikes with 1l bottles alongside frame bags...



LittleWheelsandBig

  • Whimsy Rider
Re: Pavé Proof Bottle Cage
« Reply #55 on: September 30, 2020, 03:36:11 pm »
It is simple geometry. 700C wheels (worsened by fat tyres & mudguards) + compact frame + short legs = something has to give. Moulton riders have lots of opportunity to bolt or strap things to the frame or under the saddle even if the rider is tiny.

On the other hand, there is no point in big folk following a tiny one into a headwind. Little folk might as well be made of Swiss cheese for all the wind shadow they provide. Whereupon they float away up the next hill.
Wheel meet again, don't know where, don't know when...

Kim

  • Timelord
Re: Pavé Proof Bottle Cage
« Reply #56 on: September 30, 2020, 05:37:06 pm »
It is simple geometry. 700C wheels (worsened by fat tyres & mudguards) + compact frame + short legs = something has to give. Moulton riders have lots of opportunity to bolt or strap things to the frame or under the saddle even if the rider is tiny.

Recumbents, TAAW.  It's the big wheels that cause the problem, especially if you combine them with a diamond frame.  But if you want decent tyres...
Careful, Kim. Your sarcasm's showing...

LittleWheelsandBig

  • Whimsy Rider
Re: Pavé Proof Bottle Cage
« Reply #57 on: October 01, 2020, 09:12:45 pm »
Wheel meet again, don't know where, don't know when...

Kim

  • Timelord
Re: Pavé Proof Bottle Cage
« Reply #58 on: October 01, 2020, 11:18:17 pm »
Sorry, I slipped into sheddi.  "too, also, as well"
Careful, Kim. Your sarcasm's showing...

Re: Pavé Proof Bottle Cage
« Reply #59 on: October 02, 2020, 06:42:55 am »

Re: Pavé Proof Bottle Cage
« Reply #60 on: October 05, 2020, 07:48:17 pm »
Look out for some better bidon cages after today’s Italian fiasco!