Author Topic: What do you think of Brompton today  (Read 2948 times)

Re: What do you think of Brompton today
« Reply #25 on: October 11, 2020, 06:37:41 pm »
I just nearly put my '98 Brompton up for sale.  Then after cleaning it I went for a spin and decided I just couldn't do it.  It's in concours condition as I had another which I used most and sold a while back.  Hopefully I will be finding it useful when the virus is less of an issue.

I wouldn't attempt to buy one though.
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Re: What do you think of Brompton today
« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2020, 12:49:17 pm »
Distant connections  recall me to follow the Brompton dealership and fellows in Melbounre,Victoria. My wife and I follow their cycling down there. My understanding is that they have had no Bromptons to purchase for some 7 months. Most recently they were advertising some raffle where you could compete to get into a queue that waits to purchase a Brompton there! Meanwhile,they promote Brompton bags,tyres and wotnot. Cant recall if it was them,but some Brompton sellers were refusing to sell Bromptons to Indonesians who wanted to buy x6 at a time to resell them in Indonesia at a very marked up price.
Interesting.

Re: What do you think of Brompton today
« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2020, 08:38:50 pm »
There are sellers in France (including here in Limoges!) who claim to have them in stock - not that I am going to go along to test the truth of the statement, I am not interested in buying one after having ridden my daughter's. But cheap Decathlon folders can't be had for love or money, not on line, not in the shops!

Re: What do you think of Brompton today
« Reply #28 on: October 30, 2020, 09:08:41 am »
I have similar thought about Brompton. First I bought a B75, and then bought and sold M3L, M6L, Raw Lacquer, and Black Lacquer. I think there's no significant difference between the models other than the paint job. In the end I kept the B75 and sold the others because it's cheaper and can do the job of every other higher-priced Brompton.

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Re: What do you think of Brompton today
« Reply #29 on: October 30, 2020, 10:37:12 pm »
Saw three Bromptons on the floor of what is now the Trek store in Bristol last w/e. IIRC one pink, one bare metal lacquer, one black,
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Re: What do you think of Brompton today
« Reply #30 on: October 31, 2020, 11:49:07 am »
I have similar thought about Brompton. First I bought a B75, and then bought and sold M3L, M6L, Raw Lacquer, and Black Lacquer. I think there's no significant difference between the models other than the paint job. In the end I kept the B75 and sold the others because it's cheaper and can do the job of every other higher-priced Brompton.
An S-type gives a much better riding experience if you like to go faster than pootle speeds.  If you're of average male height, there is a sensible drop to the bars.
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Re: What do you think of Brompton today
« Reply #31 on: October 31, 2020, 12:27:44 pm »
I have similar thought about Brompton. First I bought a B75, and then bought and sold M3L, M6L, Raw Lacquer, and Black Lacquer. I think there's no significant difference between the models other than the paint job. In the end I kept the B75 and sold the others because it's cheaper and can do the job of every other higher-priced Brompton.
An S-type gives a much better riding experience if you like to go faster than pootle speeds.  If you're of average male height, there is a sensible drop to the bars.

The S-type bar is half way between the tops and the drops of my road bike. Keep flexible and it's not too bad a position. Certainly better than the M for my style of riding.

Re: What do you think of Brompton today
« Reply #32 on: October 31, 2020, 12:50:25 pm »
I have similar thought about Brompton. First I bought a B75, and then bought and sold M3L, M6L, Raw Lacquer, and Black Lacquer. I think there's no significant difference between the models other than the paint job. In the end I kept the B75 and sold the others because it's cheaper and can do the job of every other higher-priced Brompton.
An S-type gives a much better riding experience if you like to go faster than pootle speeds.  If you're of average male height, there is a sensible drop to the bars.

I installed drop bar on my B75 but my lower back hurts. Now I'm thinking of converting it back to M-handlebar.

Re: What do you think of Brompton today
« Reply #33 on: October 31, 2020, 03:31:59 pm »
Drop bar?  How does it fold?
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Re: What do you think of Brompton today
« Reply #34 on: October 31, 2020, 04:40:38 pm »
I have similar thought about Brompton. First I bought a B75, and then bought and sold M3L, M6L, Raw Lacquer, and Black Lacquer. I think there's no significant difference between the models other than the paint job. In the end I kept the B75 and sold the others because it's cheaper and can do the job of every other higher-priced Brompton.
An S-type gives a much better riding experience if you like to go faster than pootle speeds.  If you're of average male height, there is a sensible drop to the bars.

When I was going to buy my Brompton, this was the one thing I was completely unsure about.  I'd ridden an M-type before, but not the others.  LBS was obliging and let me test ride an M, S and for completeness P back to back for comparison.  I concluded that the M handled like a Brompton, the S handled like a bike, and the P handlebars were stupid unless you had small hands and short enough legs to keep your knees out of the way.

I bought the S.  And have since fitted a riser to bring the bars up by about 4cm, which makes it slightly easier on the wrists while preserving the handling.
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Re: What do you think of Brompton today
« Reply #37 on: November 01, 2020, 07:58:52 pm »
Dang...I need to do that!
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Re: What do you think of Brompton today
« Reply #38 on: November 03, 2020, 06:27:33 pm »
I'm no fan of Bromptons, not liking the handling, but it seems to me that they have beome more price competitive in recent years when you look at how much Terns and Birdys have gone up in price. It's odd that the bike industry big boys have not tried to muscle in on the folding market.

Re: What do you think of Brompton today
« Reply #39 on: November 03, 2020, 06:41:14 pm »
I'm no fan of Bromptons, not liking the handling, but it seems to me that they have beome more price competitive in recent years when you look at how much Terns and Birdys have gone up in price. It's odd that the bike industry big boys have not tried to muscle in on the folding market.
That's a well reasoned comment.
Tooling costs putting them off when they know that they can churn out stuff which they know will sell -as opposed to competing in folding stuff

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Re: What do you think of Brompton today
« Reply #40 on: February 18, 2021, 09:36:22 pm »
Birdys start at over £2000 for the original design but the current monocoque design.

Terns are not as compact but could be better. Not if you're tall though. Above 6'3" and despite tern claiming they're good to 6'5" tall they're not, that's from one of the biggest folding bike retailers and tern main stockists in the UK. I asked them and under their 30 day no quibble refund scheme they know they will get tern bikes back if the purchaser is tall. They only sell brompton bikes if your close to 6'3" or above. I'm in that taller bracket.

Airnimal you need to take the wheel off and it's got a larger fold size.

Bike Friday make good range of folders and their world traveller is a reasonable fold size and effectively custom built for the rider not making one size fit all. Costs £2500++. Great bikes though.

IIRC is the 3sixty bike out of Singapore I think that is a direct copy of Brompton fold. I think aluminium alloy frame but I might be mistaken in that. Cheaper than bromptons if you can get that 3sixty bike sent here of course.

Brompton comes up for sale  their site every week now for a few months. Not many and they sell quickly. Mostly electric and superlights but there's been plenty of m6r or M6L with battery or dynamo lighting. Mostly in black only but you get the odd reds too.

Near me there's one shop with a nice red in the window and more in stock apparently. A further away retailer, smaller shop with only one outlet,  had one a few weeks back too. They've been told by their  brompton rep they'd be able to place orders for only a few brompton bikes then nothing for some time. She was angry with the way brompton was dealing with small retailers even  though they actually sold quite a few annually for years.

For my multi modal commute I have very little choice. I can just about afford the £1300 or so but not £2700 for a Birdy or £3600 or so for a hummingbird. BTW if you would rather buy a hummingbird for commuting then I wonder how much weight if you were able to add in guards, means to carry luggage, lighting options, etc. Bromptons come with most of those in one model or another so I suspect it's not completely a fair comparison. However even stripped down Brompton sounds be a lot heavier than the hummingbird but probably more durable for commuting use. Is the hummingbird even meant as a commuter?

I really don't want to buy a brompton for it's many flaws but I suspect my impending move will mean I need a solution which it seems brompton is unfortunately the only option left to me.

BTW you can't say the s bar is the perfect option for everyone because it depends on your height. There's a good graph I've seen on a YouTube channel for touring with folders that plots a line for each bar type in a graph with inseam in the X axis and height above or below the level of the seat. You need to check that out if you're thinking of buying a brompton. For my size the s bar would be between 10 and 15cm below the seat. The m bar is 5cm below, which would be my preference. H bar is over 5cm higher.

The whole bike sector is a mess right now for many reasons. Some EU based retailers and bike brands don't even ship here after brexit. Shops are all low in stock. I think you just have to buy the bike you can get that will do what n you want not your ideal bike. That means different specs and colours you might not actually like. Bromptons you have to get what you can not what you want.