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Chinook stuck in the mud
« on: January 13, 2021, 11:20:38 am »

Re: chinook stuck in the mud
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2021, 12:10:58 pm »


Better safe than sorry.

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Re: chinook stuck in the mud
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2021, 12:43:00 pm »
Have we had a thread on this yet?  Paging TimC

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/19003988.raf-chinook-lifted-muddy-field-near-wantage/

Nothing to do with me! It's a bloody hicopleter. It can stay in the mud.

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Re: chinook stuck in the mud
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2021, 12:53:23 pm »
Maybe they put the rotors on upside-down  ;D
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Re: chinook stuck in the mud
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2021, 01:44:36 pm »
Given the power they have I would have thought that they could just take off from the bogged down situation?

I was reminded of another tale about a Chinook (from when my wife worked at an RAF charity) . . .   some sort of serviceman sustained a serious injury on a training exercise where a Chinook was in use - quick thinking . . . man loaded to the Chinook and flown to a major hospital - OK so far . ... BUT the Chinook touched down on a gravel car park and blasted* loads of cars with stones!  I understand that the crew only narrowly avoided a court martial.

* I've only every been close to or in very small helicopters and they kick up a lot of dust and debris - the Chinook must have been something else  ;D
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Re: chinook stuck in the mud
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2021, 01:51:13 pm »

* I've only every been close to or in very small helicopters and they kick up a lot of dust and debris - the Chinook must have been something else  ;D

You say that as though they're in the past. They very much are not! The RAF has about 75 of them, 16 new ones ordered in 2018. It'll be around for at least another 20 years. I've driven one as a guest; it's ok as bloody stupid aircraft go, but it's the noisiest thing short of a Saturn 5 and it takes forever to get anywhere.

Re: chinook stuck in the mud
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2021, 01:55:46 pm »


Better safe than sorry.
Whoever has the job of applying the chocks runs the risk of being disciplined for not applying the chocks whatever the circumstances, and the consequences to him of doing something totally pointless are far less.

At least the men with the cranes would know where to find the chocks when they put the helicopter down on the temporary roadway.
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Re: chinook stuck in the mud
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2021, 04:25:24 pm »

* I've only every been close to or in very small helicopters and they kick up a lot of dust and debris - the Chinook must have been something else  ;D

You say that as though they're in the past. They very much are not! The RAF has about 75 of them, 16 new ones ordered in 2018. It'll be around for at least another 20 years. I've driven one as a guest; it's ok as bloody stupid aircraft go, but it's the noisiest thing short of a Saturn 5 and it takes forever to get anywhere.

. . .  ah, no - I meant that the "spectacle was something else"

AND I was down in Devon when one of the older helicoptor types was being retired (can't remember the name) - we watched 5 or 6 of them at low level flying in formation along the river from Bideford to Barnstaple on the way into Chivenor on a celebratory tour round the UK.

EDIT - it was the Sea Kings that were retiring
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Re: chinook stuck in the mud
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2021, 07:48:34 am »
AFAIK, the chinook is still about the fastest military helicopter.  With choppers, bigger is better in every way.

I guess they couldn't take off because the pilot would be unable to tell if the helinopter was 'hovering' until the wheels came out of the mud; if he was wrong, there would be a fair chance of unscheduled rapid disassembly.
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Re: chinook stuck in the mud
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2021, 07:55:48 am »
There has obviously been manoeuvres going on around here just recently as each evening we hear a "WHOOOSH" which goes on way longer than any jet would do (we are talking tens of minutes).

It was only when taking TLD to college the other day that I realised the noise is a brace of Chinooks.  Bloody hell they are noisy!
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Re: chinook stuck in the mud
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2021, 08:14:52 am »
The only "helicopter" that I hear regularly around here that is noisier is the Osprey
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Re: chinook stuck in the mud
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2021, 08:24:31 am »
The only "helicopter" that I hear regularly around here that is noisier is the Osprey

Fortunately I think we have avoided them so far, though why when I live only 8 miles from the European Air Command Centre, I don't know!
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Re: chinook stuck in the mud
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2021, 08:27:24 am »
The only "helicopter" that I hear regularly around here that is noisier is the Osprey
May I ask where there are Ospreys in the UK?

Chinooks regularly take the route up the Thames in London. Fair shakes the windows.

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Re: chinook stuck in the mud
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2021, 08:31:39 am »
The only "helicopter" that I hear regularly around here that is noisier is the Osprey
May I ask where there are Ospreys in the UK?

Chinooks regularly take the route up the Thames in London. Fair shakes the windows.

Uxbridge mainly

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Re: chinook stuck in the mud
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2021, 09:00:48 am »

Whoever has the job of applying the chocks runs the risk of being disciplined for not applying the chocks whatever the circumstances, and the consequences to him of doing something totally pointless are far less.
Perhaps the chocks were put down before the helicopter began to sink?

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Re: chinook stuck in the mud
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2021, 09:11:45 am »

Whoever has the job of applying the chocks runs the risk of being disciplined for not applying the chocks whatever the circumstances, and the consequences to him of doing something totally pointless are far less.
Perhaps the chocks were put down before the helicopter began to sink?

THat was my thought. I used to live a few miles from where it happened and those fields are regularly waterlogged so once they's landed it was probably a foregone conclusion.

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Re: chinook stuck in the mud
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2021, 09:25:20 am »
The only "helicopter" that I hear regularly around here that is noisier is the Osprey
May I ask where there are Ospreys in the UK?

Chinooks regularly take the route up the Thames in London. Fair shakes the windows.

Uxbridge mainly

I believe Dave is in the flatlands which would make some kind of sense, airfield wise

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Re: chinook stuck in the mud
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2021, 09:26:15 am »

* I've only every been close to or in very small helicopters and they kick up a lot of dust and debris - the Chinook must have been something else  ;D

You say that as though they're in the past. They very much are not! The RAF has about 75 of them, 16 new ones ordered in 2018. It'll be around for at least another 20 years. I've driven one as a guest; it's ok as bloody stupid aircraft go, but it's the noisiest thing short of a Saturn 5 and it takes forever to get anywhere.


Weren't those quietly canned last year and money moved to upgrading the existing fleet?
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Re: chinook stuck in the mud
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2021, 10:03:41 am »
The only "helicopter" that I hear regularly around here that is noisier is the Osprey
May I ask where there are Ospreys in the UK?

Chinooks regularly take the route up the Thames in London. Fair shakes the windows.

Uxbridge mainly

I believe Dave is in the flatlands which would make some kind of sense, airfield wise

Uxbridge? The RAF station (never an airfield) closed in 2010. The 7th SOC Sqn at RAF Mildenhall, Suffolk is the only unit in UK that is home to the V-22. I'm not sure what the European Air Command Centre is, or why it should attract V-22s.

Re: chinook stuck in the mud
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2021, 10:15:07 am »
Given the power they have I would have thought that they could just take off from the bogged down situation?



Perhaps they were worried that, as it took off, it would drag the planet into a different orbit.


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Re: chinook stuck in the mud
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2021, 10:21:20 am »
Given the power they have I would have thought that they could just take off from the bogged down situation?



Perhaps they were worried that, as it took off, it would drag the planet into a different orbit.
Or maybe it was judged to be insufficiently ugly that it wouldn't be repelled by the Earth in the usual manner of wokka flight.

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Re: chinook stuck in the mud
« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2021, 10:38:55 am »
The only "helicopter" that I hear regularly around here that is noisier is the Osprey
May I ask where there are Ospreys in the UK?

Chinooks regularly take the route up the Thames in London. Fair shakes the windows.

We used to get regular lunchtime visits from them flying down the Lea Valley, though I ent noticed them recently.  I think they were keeping an eye on Jurek.
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Re: chinook stuck in the mud
« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2021, 10:42:10 am »
Chinooks are fairly regular visitors here at Wattisham. I had hoped I'd seen the last of them when I left the RAF in 1998, but no such luck. They make a change from the Apaches, which aren't as loud but are Even Fucking Slower, so they take all night to get from one side of my garden to the other.

Re: chinook stuck in the mud
« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2021, 10:53:23 am »
plenty of "wockatter-wockatters" down here, near Benson...and I'd assume that's one of theirs, stuck at Wantage?

Re: chinook stuck in the mud
« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2021, 10:54:43 am »
plenty of "wockatter-wockatters" down here, near Benson...and I'd assume that's one of theirs, stuck at Wantage?

in fact if I'd bothered reading the Mail before posting, I'd have seen that it was, yes indeed...