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FifeingEejit

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Toaster settings
« on: February 15, 2021, 11:06:23 pm »
As a spur of some thread where I mentioned toast...

I just cooked some bread from frozen on setting 3,this horror of burntness emerged

If this is setting 3,what on earth does 6 produce, Charcoal?

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FifeingEejit

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Re: Toaster settings
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2021, 11:07:51 pm »
Obviously I followed up with an experiment at 1.3141759ish, I'm still dubious about the level of burn on it, I might try again on 1 exactly (lowest setting)

What is your toaster setting and what does your toast look like?



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hellymedic

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Re: Toaster settings
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2021, 11:33:43 pm »
I don't know which toaster you use.
Ours came from Sainsbury's.
We eat mostly Vogel's Soya & Linseed wholegrain bread, which we store in the freezer. This needs MUCH more time in the toaster than the Burgen's we get when Vogel's is unavailable.
Much depends on the density of the bread.
Fluffy foam needs little time to brown and burn.

Kim

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Re: Toaster settings
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2021, 12:07:17 am »
Toaster settings are crude timers, which make no account for bread temperature, toaster temperature, bread thickness, moisture content or albedo.  Attempting to SCIENCE them is a recipe for [BEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEP - Ed]
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FifeingEejit

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Re: Toaster settings
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2021, 12:42:32 am »
I was more interested in people's concepts of toast tbh.

Does anyone's toaster go up to 11?

And now I think of it im kind of dissapointed that Kim hasn't declared the production of a bread/toast threshold detecting circuit to replace the crude timer.

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tiermat

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Re: Toaster settings
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2021, 05:46:33 am »
Surely the only true toaster doesn't try hiding the fact that the settings are just timers?

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Re: Toaster settings
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2021, 09:21:04 am »
I was more interested in people's concepts of toast tbh.

Does anyone's toaster go up to 11?

And now I think of it im kind of dissapointed that Kim hasn't declared the production of a bread/toast threshold detecting circuit to replace the crude timer.

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I think someone beat Kim to it:

https://youtu.be/1OfxlSG6q5Y

I don't know if the level of brown is adjustable, but it seems unlikely.

Kim

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Re: Toaster settings
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2021, 12:15:28 pm »
I was more interested in people's concepts of toast tbh.

A way of turning crap bread into a butter delivery system.


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And now I think of it im kind of dissapointed that Kim hasn't declared the production of a bread/toast threshold detecting circuit to replace the crude timer.

I've had some accidental success with a catalytic combustible gas sensor[1] (which we have in the kitchen, because barakta's sense of smell is dubious).  Unlike the traditional smoke detector, toast triggers it at a level just *before* the toast is incinerated.

(We use the grill, because we have a small kitchen and don't habitually eat toast.)



[1] Which is basically Cheesoid, and will scream PETRIL! at pretty much any volatile hydrocarbon, including the substantial amount of ethanol released by baking bread.
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Re: Toaster settings
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2021, 12:19:42 pm »
I turn everything to max and then wait for the first curls of smoke and then manually pop up the slices. It's not worth risking undercooked and potentially raw toast. It needs a bit of char. Wait 30 seconds and then ravish with butter.
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Re: Toaster settings
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2021, 01:13:32 pm »
As a spur of some thread where I mentioned toast...

I just cooked some bread from frozen on setting 3,this horror of burntness emerged

If this is setting 3,what on earth does 6 produce, Charcoal?

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Are you sure it’s a toaster and not, say, a kiln or a reactor?

Assuming it is a toaster, have you plugged it directly into a small star?

My toaster only goes up to 5. 5 I-don’t-know-whats. Minutes? Shades of brown? Carats?

3 does for medium-sliced white bread but I need 9 (5+4) to adequately toast a crumpet.

Mine has 4 slots, but the stays-down-then-pops-up elf in slots 3 and 4 died, so I use a rubber band to hold that lever down and I never, repeat never (any more) wonder if I’ve just got time to [fill in slightly too long activity of choice] while I’m waiting because I now know that I definitely haven’t.

And all of this is better than my stupid electric grill (which is less a sideways toaster, more a viper in my bosom) which goes: raw, raw, raw, carbon.
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Re: Toaster settings
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2021, 02:08:08 pm »
The thought of a Kitchen Cheesoid fills me with glee :thumbsup:
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Re: Toaster settings
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2021, 03:02:10 pm »
I was more interested in people's concepts of toast tbh.
I was going to say it's just about acceptable when overwhelmed by a quantity of baked beans or maybe buttery fried mushrooms, but Kim beat me to it.

quote][Does anyone's toaster go up to 11?[/quote]
I think ours goes up to 7. Human love of prime numbers, I guess.
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citoyen

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Re: Toaster settings
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2021, 04:07:36 pm »
I was more interested in people's concepts of toast tbh.

Your first pic looks like a perfect level of doneness to me. Second pic is still a tad pale round the edges.

I find a lot depends on the thickness of the bread*. Thicker slices can take being more crisp and crunchy on the outside while remaining soft in the middle, which is the paradigm. It's also a flavour thing - Maillard reactions, innit.

The dial on my Dualit toaster goes up to 3, but then has a 'beyond 3' section (without going all the way up to 4, for some reason). I rarely set it much beyond 2 for thick bread, or 1.5 for thin bread. Because I want to make toast, not set off the smoke alarm. I have no idea why it goes up that far.

I have some homemade teacakes in the freezer and I am now craving one. Straight from the freezer, that will probably be done to optimum brownness on about 2. I shall take a pic and report back in due course...

*ETA: and all the other factors Kim mentioned - it's rarely the same twice, much guesswork involved
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citoyen

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Re: Toaster settings
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2021, 04:11:29 pm »
albedo

This is a new word I have learned today, thank you, and I would never have imagined it had relevance to toast, but it makes sense - although I can't work out if this means white bread will toast quicker than brown, or vice versa.
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citoyen

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Re: Toaster settings
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2021, 04:33:09 pm »
My toaster dial:


Toasted teacakes - actually slightly overdone for my liking, because I was distracted by pictures of pancakes on instagram, but still very much within the range of edibility, especially when slathered with plenty of butter:

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Re: Toaster settings
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2021, 06:53:15 am »
Ooo, that's all fancy, Citoyen, ours just has the 2 way switch for 2 slices or four.

How many times have you had to replace the timer? We are on number 3 (in 12 years)
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Re: Toaster settings
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2021, 07:08:29 am »
I've got the 3 slice, and on the original timer after about 20 years, daily use.

The quality of bread is all.

I like "burnt" toast in most people's eyes, but not mouth. That is, my wholemeal bread caramelises nicely, the perfect combination is black edges and dark brown middle. This add extra savour to toast for the c50% of the time I add caraway seed. However, the recent time I had shop bought bread, it was total shit and I dislike the burnt stuff intensely. It also took c half the time to toast to a similar degree (it was also around 50% lighter -these things may be connected)

My white bread needs less time, but also caramelises into burnt in a way shop bought like the OP doesn't.

I wonder if the longevity of my timer is due in part to being used @ max setting most times, for wholemeal slice from the freezer.

Re: Toaster settings
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2021, 08:52:34 am »
I have a 2 slice Dualit from the late 80s, when they were made in Peckham, long before they became a fashion item and John Lewis started selling them. It is a slightly different shape to the curved castings you have today. I paid £50.00 for it. New.
My bread gets done by adjusting the dial to the little black triangle just past the '2' - See Citoyen's picture above.
Pitta bread gets done on '3'.
Timer is the original one. The only thing I've done with it is I've mounted it on rubber grommets so that it doesn't resonate so much through the aluminium casting. Can't have all that mechanical racket going on first thing in the morning.
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Re: Toaster settings
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2021, 10:00:07 am »
I have a 2 slice Dualit from the late 80s, long before they became a fashion item and John Lewis started selling them. It is a slightly different shape to the curved castings you have today. I paid £50.00 for it. New.
My bread gets done by adjusting the dial to the little black triangle just past the '2' - See Citoyen's picture above.
Pitta bread gets done on '3'.
Timer is the original one. The only thing I've done with it is I've mounted it on rubber grommets so that it doesn't resonate so much through the aluminium casting. Can't have all that mechanical racket going on first thing in the morning.
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Re: Toaster settings
« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2021, 10:12:21 am »
We have a similar three slot one. We always used 1 for toast and then a few months back there were a couple of occasions when it stuck and stayed on. I took out he clockwork timer and cleaned the gack off and now it does not stick but moves much more quickly and we need to use 2.

citoyen

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Re: Toaster settings
« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2021, 10:23:13 am »
I've never replaced the timer but I have noticed that its speed is a bit variable - and I did once have a problem with it getting stuck and me not noticing until the toast alarm went off... Taking it out for cleaning sounds like a sensible idea.

I think one of the heating elements is duff as well, so I should replace that. I understand this is quite easy, I've just never got round to it.

The toaster was a wedding present so that means we've had it since 2003. I think. I can't actually remember what year we got married.
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Re: Toaster settings
« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2021, 11:22:03 am »
The toaster was a wedding present so that means we've had it since 2003. I think. I can't actually remember what year we got married.
But that's okay because you did get your wife a lovely birthday card...  ;D
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Re: Toaster settings
« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2021, 11:31:41 am »
I thought the purpose of toasting was to a) help the butter melt into the bread and b) add crispiness. I have no clue what this caramelisation guff you're all wittering about is. Charcoal is for people (and animals) with bad breath or recent overdoses.
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Re: Toaster settings
« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2021, 01:24:44 pm »
AGA (again)
Insert bread into toaster
Put on hotplate
When it smells like toast, turn it over
When it smells like toast again, eat it.
Don't forget to admire the attractive grid pattern....

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Re: Toaster settings
« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2021, 09:23:05 pm »
Would brown bread need a higher setting than white, on the basis white would reflect a bit more energy?

Or is it the other way round, if dark colours radiate more energy? 
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