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LEL 2022 proposed route - Unofficial Track
« on: 02 October, 2021, 01:21:52 pm »
Last week Grant Farm test rode the proposed LEL 2022 route.  I followed his tracker and tracked his route on RidewithGPS.
Below is the route.  The days are based on a morning start and a possible plan.

I must stress that this is not the official route .  It will be tweeked but it may give some people an idea of what is planned.

Day 1/2 -https://ridewithgps.com/routes/37613890
Day 3 - https://ridewithgps.com/routes/37630230
Day 4 - https://ridewithgps.com/routes/37638032
Day 5 - https://ridewithgps.com/routes/37647772


Re: LEL 2022 proposed route - Unofficial Track
« Reply #1 on: 02 October, 2021, 01:29:09 pm »
Re: Days 1&3:  Is the Whorlton Bridge open again?  Thought it was closed to all for a couple of years.
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« Reply #2 on: 02 October, 2021, 01:39:34 pm »
The track goes over Whorlton Bridge, but that may have been an interpolation from distant tracker points.

I note the route avoids Castle Howard (at least the bit with the landmarks) in both directions. Controversial.

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« Reply #3 on: 02 October, 2021, 01:50:36 pm »
Pretty sure the bridge is closed to everyone (including cyclists) until at least 2023.  I took a detour this year to the north via Winston & Staindrop  (avoiding Barnard Castle) which was very pleasant.  In fact I'm going to use that route in preference in future years.
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« Reply #4 on: 02 October, 2021, 04:59:09 pm »
Yes I assumed he went over the bridge, I did not realise it was closed.
I have adjusted my route now to miss out the bridge.

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« Reply #5 on: 02 October, 2021, 07:36:08 pm »
A day 1 of 635km won’t be my plan by a big margin.

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Re: LEL 2022 proposed route - Unofficial Track
« Reply #6 on: 02 October, 2021, 08:03:46 pm »
That is quite a lot yes. Then again, in 2017 I rode to Brampton on the first day and that worked very well in getting ahead of the bulge. Start on Sunday at 12:45, arrived in Brampton Monday around 17:00

Keeping my fingers crossed that LEL will happen in 2022! And just renewed my 5-year AUK membership to make sure I'm eligible for early registration.

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« Reply #7 on: 02 October, 2021, 08:50:45 pm »
I note the route avoids Castle Howard (at least the bit with the landmarks) in both directions. Controversial.
But on the plus side we (may) get to ride in the North York Moors (SW quarter).

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« Reply #8 on: 03 October, 2021, 08:56:03 am »
Phil -  Day 1 should be Day1&2, then Day 3 etc - ammended

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« Reply #9 on: 03 October, 2021, 09:28:16 am »
Properly into & through Edinburgh too without overdoing it, and avoiding the tram tracks too (assuming the bit immediately east of the current York Place terminus currently under construction isnt in place by then).   :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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Re: LEL 2022 proposed route - Unofficial Track
« Reply #10 on: 03 October, 2021, 04:33:48 pm »
The track goes over Whorlton Bridge, but that may have been an interpolation from distant tracker points.

I note the route avoids Castle Howard (at least the bit with the landmarks) in both directions. Controversial.

In my view, it's better to avoid Castle Howard - not due to the terrain but to the volume and impatience of the traffic around it. Apart from the outskirts of Edinburgh, I'd say it was the least pleasant part of my LEL2017 ride, for that reason.
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Re: LEL 2022 proposed route - Unofficial Track
« Reply #11 on: 04 October, 2021, 04:31:28 pm »
Yeah, and  B1257   Malton to Slingsby is sh*te for traffic. A better route through Coneysthorpe.

I rode the Edinburgh  route on a Friday PM  - its was bit challenging in the city with traffic and navigation

-the old Forth bridge was fun especially riding over with a fuming queue of traffic on the QE bridge up river.

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« Reply #12 on: 06 October, 2021, 11:12:40 am »
I believe the Edinburgh route will be advisory, but even so, I'd question the wisdom of directing riders to ride through Drylaw, perhaps at night. No offence to the no doubt many good folk of Drylaw, but I've had primary school-age kids chucking stones at me, when on my bike down there. The bike paths skirting the area aren't much better after dark, especially in school holidays.

Cramond/Silverknowes Esplanade then to the centre through Trinity would be a better route IMO.

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« Reply #13 on: 06 October, 2021, 11:23:34 am »
And pretty though it is, sending the ride over the cobbles on South Queensferry's main street may be unwelcome to some

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« Reply #14 on: 06 October, 2021, 11:41:35 am »
One final point then I'll wind my neck in - the tram line extension construction is scheduled to take place at Picardy Place (already a gyratory of doom) from autumn '21 to autumn '22 - so it may well be a building site and also have tram tracks placed in some form by then

https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/tramstonewhaven/downloads/file/352/construction-phasing-map-pdf-

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« Reply #15 on: 06 October, 2021, 08:12:52 pm »
Phil -  Day 1 should be Day1&2, then Day 3 etc - ammended

More like it!

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« Reply #16 on: 08 October, 2021, 08:57:33 am »
Edinburgh, in my experience, has very good cycling connections, except in the town centre. Crossing Edinburgh city centre is awful in any direction. I live in Granton and if I want to cross to the south side, I go down the Telford path (NCR 1) to Haymarket, then cross to the Union Canal, then through the Meadows and pick up NCR 1 through the Innocent tunnel or Causewayside towards the bypass, depending where I’m heading. Thus avoiding the city centre altogether.
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« Reply #17 on: 09 October, 2021, 01:30:13 pm »
Taking a closer look. I see it takes the roads through Boreland between Brampton and Moffat. I know we looked at that option for 2017. But road surface considered not good enough for official route. Guess it’s been resurfaced since.

Re: LEL 2022 proposed route - Unofficial Track
« Reply #18 on: 09 October, 2021, 06:11:28 pm »
Happy to confirm a few points:

- The road through Boreland has indeed been resurfaced - mostly. There are still a couple of rough patches but we think it’s probably good enough now.
- Whorlton Bridge remains closed so we don’t use it.
- The official Edinburgh route is two thirds in place. We’re still not totally happy with it, and I suspect it will be a case of tolerating a few negatives for the chance to be able to pass through one of the most beautiful cities in Europe.

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« Reply #19 on: 09 October, 2021, 06:22:43 pm »
- The road through Boreland has indeed been resurfaced - mostly. There are still a couple of rough patches but we think it’s probably good enough now.

To be honest the alternative B7076 is pretty bad itself and never likely to be resurfaced as it's essentially a ghost road mainly used by trucks.  It's also incredibly boring  ;)

I'll probably try out the proposed route next June if the Lockerbie truck stop is still not offering bedrooms.
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« Reply #20 on: 09 October, 2021, 07:37:11 pm »
Yeah us northerners call it the B(oring)7076. It serves a purpose in joining 24 hour services together for a basic 600. LEL is a different being a full facility event

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« Reply #21 on: 25 October, 2021, 04:32:36 pm »
I have been tidying up my ride with gps files and now have got the proposed LEL route as 5 parts. So the original files/links no longers exist
Just to remind you this not the offical route and includes a few minor tweaks I have made.

Part 1 https://ridewithgps.com/routes/37682818
Part 2 https://ridewithgps.com/routes/37682860
Part 3 https://ridewithgps.com/routes/37707665
Part 4 https://ridewithgps.com/routes/37707699
Part 5 https://ridewithgps.com/routes/37724173

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« Reply #22 on: 26 October, 2021, 06:05:31 pm »
That's brilliant I can get my head around this!  Thanks  ;D
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Re: LEL 2022 proposed route - Unofficial Track
« Reply #23 on: 13 November, 2021, 04:32:04 pm »
I have been tidying up my ride with gps files and now have got the proposed LEL route as 5 parts. So the original files/links no longers exist
Just to remind you this not the offical route and includes a few minor tweaks I have made.

Part 1 https://ridewithgps.com/routes/37682818
Part 2 https://ridewithgps.com/routes/37682860
Part 3 https://ridewithgps.com/routes/37707665
Part 4 https://ridewithgps.com/routes/37707699
Part 5 https://ridewithgps.com/routes/37724173

I love it!

Some thoughts... just mine and of no great consequence to anyone else...

Looking at Part 2:
You've got a tiny section of off-road near Riplingham, the road route is better.
In Walkington I'd recommend the 'other two sides of the square': there would be less instructions and it's easier to ride. Follow the road to the x-roads and the SO onto Townend Road and R onto Manor House Lane
Huge kudos for going through Thixendale - a delight of a ride. Although I like the Roman Road nearby, the hazard of the A166 isn't worth it
I still can't believe that LEL is taking the Snilesworth route from Helmsley to Osmotherley... I'm rolling in the floor laughing my ass off. Anyone missing Castle Howard / Coxwold needn't worry... you've given them an awesome treat instead.
Part 4:
The Upsall route is a relief from the fear of returning through the NYMs. Some nice pubs that way. The A168 from Northallerton to Thirsk, then Sowerby and Great Thirkleby is a lot quicker riding, and not such a big deal given you're happy with the Wetwang to Bainton Road.
I love the Castor route South of the Humber Bridge.

A huge effort has clearly gone into this. Nice one.
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Re: LEL 2022 proposed route - Unofficial Track
« Reply #24 on: 05 December, 2021, 11:36:42 pm »
It's interesting what some have said regarding going through Edinburgh.  I don't know the city at all, and if it's going to be a free route through the city, then I wouldn't have a clue which way to go, or whether I would be choosing horrendously busy roads by mistake.  And I live in UK, so I don't know how riders from say Thailand would manage finding their own route in an unfamiliar city.  Personally, in the 2017 edition, I hated the section leaving Gracemount until I got onto the quieter roads on the way to Innerleithen and therefore a full traverse of Edinburgh fills me with dread.  I really do dislike busy city cycling.  Is anyone able to allay my fears?