Author Topic: Alternatives to Twatter  (Read 20012 times)

ian

Re: Alternatives to Twatter
« Reply #100 on: 22 November, 2022, 08:48:04 pm »
Another one from the Business Genius

During one Sunday meeting, Musk explained the concept of native advertising to the team, according to one person who was there, despite the fact that the employees were already well aware of the format. He said that the company’s ads should “look like tweets,” one employee said, despite the fact that the company’s ads already are tweets

rogerzilla

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Re: Alternatives to Twatter
« Reply #101 on: 22 November, 2022, 08:57:16 pm »
Twatsplaining.
Hard work sometimes pays off in the end, but laziness ALWAYS pays off NOW.

rogerzilla

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Re: Alternatives to Twatter
« Reply #102 on: 22 November, 2022, 08:59:48 pm »
I saw the photos of the strategy planning meeting and wondered if ian had been there the night before, writing things on the board…
If it features the five-cornered Hexagon Of Aims and the Seven Journeys to Itselfness, it's probably Ian's work.
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quixoticgeek

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Re: Alternatives to Twatter
« Reply #103 on: 22 November, 2022, 11:41:02 pm »

It seems Mastodon has hit some scaling issues, especially around moderation. This has lead a number of instances to choose to deferederate from certain instances. Mastodon.social is the most well known of those who are being dropped by a lot of instances.

Today I've moved to an instance run by a friend I trust. They've promised me a nine fives uptime.

If anyone was looking for details of my dinner, rants about public transport, and general witterings, I'm the same nickname as here, but @v.st.

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FifeingEejit

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Re: Alternatives to Twatter
« Reply #104 on: 23 November, 2022, 12:04:46 am »
It's only a matter of time before either:
1) someone shoots him
2) he does something that he can't blag his way out of a jail sentence for

He's managed to avoid #2 a number of times already.
Particularly with the "paedo guy" thing.

Earlier this year I stated that "musk is a fucking idiot", the response i got to that was "but he's made a lot of money", "aye so fuck".


On seeing the diagram my first thought was that I'm curretly writing something more complex in a team of 6 developers, and if we fuck up people might die*.



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Jaded

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Re: Alternatives to Twatter
« Reply #105 on: 23 November, 2022, 12:24:55 am »
I read a thing that said Musk might be bring very clever and turning Twitter into the future of money, thus doing away with banks and cash and stuff, and making Muskrat loads of dosh.
It is simpler than it looks.

FifeingEejit

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Re: Alternatives to Twatter
« Reply #106 on: 23 November, 2022, 12:29:48 am »
Wasn't tesla haemoraging money and begging for investors once described as a new funding model where losing moeny was less important than changing the world.



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Kim

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Re: Alternatives to Twatter
« Reply #107 on: 23 November, 2022, 12:52:12 am »
Wasn't tesla haemoraging money and begging for investors once described as a new funding model where losing moeny was less important than changing the world.

Possibly.  They've arguably achieved that, if you narrow the scope to 'changing the car industry'.

Mr Larrington

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Re: Alternatives to Twatter
« Reply #108 on: 23 November, 2022, 01:06:17 am »
To be fair to the Muskrat, which sticks in the craw somewhat, going from a battery-powered Lotus to the thick end of a million sales per year in a decade or so is quite an accomplishment on someone’s part.
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ian

Re: Alternatives to Twatter
« Reply #109 on: 23 November, 2022, 11:47:56 am »
It's only a matter of time before either:
1) someone shoots him
2) he does something that he can't blag his way out of a jail sentence for

He's managed to avoid #2 a number of times already.
Particularly with the "paedo guy" thing.

Earlier this year I stated that "musk is a fucking idiot", the response i got to that was "but he's made a lot of money", "aye so fuck".

On seeing the diagram my first thought was that I'm curretly writing something more complex in a team of 6 developers, and if we fuck up people might die*.

Yes, that diagram was a bit special, basically My Little First Technology Stack (colouring book version). As someone who used to manage a data platform with a substantial technology stack, all I can say is the the man is an true Business Genius for rendering so much complexity in such simple terms. Bejesus, you should see our current data architecture schema, you'd need a ocean-sized white board to write that out, it's the Lucid chart from Hell (actually not quite, you should see the one Finestre, the Demon of Such Things, has), though I credit her for some inspiration in these matters, though I really have to blame the engineering teams who maintain it. I'm going to write recommendations for their damnation.

Anyway, he's explaining this shit to the engineers that build and maintain it. There was some prime chin-stroking in the picture though.

Apparently he's currently asking everyone to send him weekly updates with 'code' etc. because like, yes, he'll understand it, and sure, isolated snippets of code are, erm, really fucking useful and exactly what you'd want a CEO of the large, foundering business to be doing.

ian

Re: Alternatives to Twatter
« Reply #110 on: 23 November, 2022, 11:48:41 am »
Wasn't tesla haemoraging money and begging for investors once described as a new funding model where losing moeny was less important than changing the world.

Possibly.  They've arguably achieved that, if you narrow the scope to 'changing the car industry'.

A fair chunk of the funding model seems to be 'government subsidy' - both SpaceX and Tesla live large on it.

quixoticgeek

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Re: Alternatives to Twatter
« Reply #111 on: 23 November, 2022, 11:52:47 am »
A fair chunk of the funding model seems to be 'government subsidy' - both SpaceX and Tesla live large on it.

As stated in another thread:

Obligatory reminder that Tesla is not a car manufacturer, but a carbon credit trading company.

If the carbon credits are such that having a skunkworks doing something with hydrogen, then they'll do so.

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Kim

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Re: Alternatives to Twatter
« Reply #112 on: 23 November, 2022, 01:04:50 pm »
Wasn't tesla haemoraging money and begging for investors once described as a new funding model where losing moeny was less important than changing the world.

Possibly.  They've arguably achieved that, if you narrow the scope to 'changing the car industry'.

A fair chunk of the funding model seems to be 'government subsidy' - both SpaceX and Tesla live large on it.

Isn't that normal for the car industry?

ian

Re: Alternatives to Twatter
« Reply #113 on: 23 November, 2022, 01:18:22 pm »
Indeed, and every existing car manufacturer owes it's current existence to the largesse of taxpayers for bailing them out in addition to the massive ongoing subsidy. Also, they'd have no market if we didn't pay for the infrastructure and roads, not to mentioned the resulting health-care, the costs land for car parking, etc. etc.

Add to that, they don't even sell cars now, they sell financing packages for cars that no one can actually afford (an entry range Tesla, for instance, is £42k). I think there's an aphorism about schemes for triangular buildings with reclining pharaohs in them.

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Alternatives to Twatter
« Reply #114 on: 23 November, 2022, 03:22:16 pm »
As for H1-B visas (these are specialist visas for overseas workers to fill roles that can't be filled by someone in the US), there's no grace period, the day your employment ceases you are liable to immediately leave the US or be subject to deportation proceedings (the only credit you get is that your employer should pay reasonable costs to send you home). If you do overstay, of course, to clear up your affairs (you may have family, partners, you know, a life you can't curtail with a few days' notice, not to mention re-establish your life in another country), then that will probably disqualify you from a future visa (or at least lead to awkward questions). It's a visa status that's easy for unscrupulous employers to take advantage of.
When this happens in Qatar or Dubai, we say we shouldn't play football with those nasty people. When it happens here, we call it "gangmaster".
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Alternatives to Twatter
« Reply #115 on: 23 November, 2022, 03:23:12 pm »
This has lead a number of instances to choose to deferederate from certain instances.
I hear this in a Star Trek voice.
Riding a concrete path through the nebulous and chaotic future.

ian

Re: Alternatives to Twatter
« Reply #116 on: 23 November, 2022, 05:48:01 pm »
As for H1-B visas (these are specialist visas for overseas workers to fill roles that can't be filled by someone in the US), there's no grace period, the day your employment ceases you are liable to immediately leave the US or be subject to deportation proceedings (the only credit you get is that your employer should pay reasonable costs to send you home). If you do overstay, of course, to clear up your affairs (you may have family, partners, you know, a life you can't curtail with a few days' notice, not to mention re-establish your life in another country), then that will probably disqualify you from a future visa (or at least lead to awkward questions). It's a visa status that's easy for unscrupulous employers to take advantage of.
When this happens in Qatar or Dubai, we say we shouldn't play football with those nasty people. When it happens here, we call it "gangmaster".

The original intention of H1-B visas is for occupations that can't be filled domestically, so generally there wasn't scope to consider they'd become redundant as they were so essential. In a time before Business Geniuses roamed, of course. I, for instance, lived and worked in the US under H1-B (there is, or was, a six year maximum, after which you need to be on a green card).

That said, at the of mind, I didn't get a nice note thanking me for helping the US economy and paying all those taxes, but I did get a letter warning me to leave the US by this date or face future repercussions. In a quid pro quo, I never filed my final year's taxes. That was a bit pyrrhic as I usually came out of the annual tax furore in credit. Some years enough to pay my accountant (or the bloke in the tax service office in the mall).

FifeingEejit

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Re: Alternatives to Twatter
« Reply #117 on: 23 November, 2022, 07:46:03 pm »
Add to that, they don't even sell cars now, they sell financing packages for cars that no one can actually afford (an entry range Tesla, for instance, is £42k). I think there's an aphorism about schemes for triangular buildings with reclining pharaohs in them.

Comparable to a Volvo/Polestar
I know which I'd rather have.
Hint: The one that's designed to be as passively safe as possible rather the have eventual user deth build in.

ian

Re: Alternatives to Twatter
« Reply #118 on: 23 November, 2022, 07:52:18 pm »
You can't actually buy a Tesla for that price, my wife tried. Expect to pay about £65k for any model you can get before the end of the decade the Business Genius tanks them too.

But, regardless of brand, the nation's driveways and pavements are now filled with new cars that retail for a multiple of their annual household income.

Mr Larrington

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Re: Alternatives to Twatter
« Reply #119 on: 23 November, 2022, 07:56:39 pm »
Neighbours at Fort Larrington are swanning around in a Model X.  Prices start at £73k :jurek:
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Kim

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Re: Alternatives to Twatter
« Reply #120 on: 23 November, 2022, 09:12:02 pm »
Anyone hoping for an affordable Tesla would do well to wait until the Twitter implosion drags the company down to the point where they stop issuing firmware updates...   :demon:

quixoticgeek

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Re: Alternatives to Twatter
« Reply #121 on: 23 November, 2022, 09:18:27 pm »
Anyone hoping for an affordable Tesla would do well to wait until the Twitter implosion drags the company down to the point where they stop issuing firmware updates...   :demon:

Followed shortly there after by them stopping working... and then everyone sueing... then everyone finding a EULA says they don't own the software on the car...

Popcorn anyone?

J
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ian

Re: Alternatives to Twatter
« Reply #122 on: 23 November, 2022, 09:34:43 pm »
To be fair, at that price, I doubt many of them own the car either.

Mr Larrington

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Re: Alternatives to Twatter
« Reply #123 on: 24 November, 2022, 01:21:08 am »
Dunno what Nick the Neighbour does for a living but he does it from home and has been since long before Teh Plague.  There's a BMW in their front yard as well, or at least there was the last time I looked.
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Jaded

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Re: Alternatives to Twatter
« Reply #124 on: 24 November, 2022, 02:29:29 am »
You can't actually buy a Tesla for that price, my wife tried. Expect to pay about £65k for any model you can get before the end of the decade the Business Genius tanks them too.

But, regardless of brand, the nation's driveways and pavements are now filled with new cars that retail for a multiple of their annual household income.

You buy a house on tick. 

Second biggest purchase is a voiture, why not spread the (financial) cost over decades…?
It is simpler than it looks.