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Tim Hall

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Errors that make you cringe
« on: 27 April, 2023, 11:10:23 pm »
I was going to post this in the "Science that makes you cringe" thread but had a change of heart.  Anyway, in the best manner of the IMDB goofs (bugger all of 25 people were interested in this), I was listening to a radio play the other day that I'd down loaded a few weeks ago. "Passenger List" by John Scott Dryden. A conspiracy theory type thriller in eight parts,  broadcast on Radio 4, first aired in 2021.

A plane goes missing on a transatlantic flight. We learn fairly early on it's a Boeing 737-800 and was purported to have been subject to a bird strike. So far so good. Then I winced, as the Barnacle Geese were said to be at thirty thousand feet. Off to teh intarwebs and get conflicting reports. There is a species of goose that flies over the Himalayas but thirty thousand feet is pushing it.

Then I do some more thinking and digging. A 737-800 won't be flying transatlantic (Heathrow-New York). I even asked a pilot, who said it theoretically could but you wouldn't want to. Something about the comfort of a single aisle cabin over long distances.  Listening a bit harder, they claim 256 passengers. Nope. Wiki-inaccurate says 189 if it's single class.

Then we hear a transcript of the pilot talking to Gander radio. She a had a fairly uneventful flight although ran in to some geese 200 miles back so shut down the "second left engine". Not on a 737 she didn't. It's only got two.

Oh, then there was the bit where our hero, who lost her brother on the flight, visits an engine test facility. The kind that drenches a running engine with water to simulate heavy rain and fires birds from a cannon to simulate bird strikes. They fire frozen birds. No.

None of these errors needed to be made. All it takes is a bit of checking. It was still a good story though. As the Boy says "Dad, I suspect you've given this more thought than the writers".
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Re: Errors that make you cringe
« Reply #1 on: 27 April, 2023, 11:54:07 pm »
I thought we already had a thread about this but I can't easily find it. Maybe it was in a previous lifetime.

Anyway, I posted about the seal (native to Scotland)/sealion (native to California) error in Local Hero  :demon:

Re: Errors that make you cringe
« Reply #2 on: 28 April, 2023, 12:06:49 am »
Pearl Harbor - to save time going through the assorted inaccuracies, let's just say that the whole film was an error. :demon:
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Re: Errors that make you cringe
« Reply #3 on: 28 April, 2023, 12:38:13 am »
I have probably noted before novelist Greg Iles' faux pas in claiming the US market Audi S4 was limited to 135 mph.  The one I got from Hertz in Phoenix in 2005 certainly wasn’t :demon:
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Re: Errors that make you cringe
« Reply #4 on: 28 April, 2023, 09:01:09 am »
Then we hear a transcript of the pilot talking to Gander radio. She a had a fairly uneventful flight although ran in to some geese 200 miles back so shut down the "second left engine". Not on a 737 she didn't. It's only got two.
What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the Gander, ect, ect.
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Re: Errors that make you cringe
« Reply #5 on: 28 April, 2023, 10:13:13 am »
What's needed is a willing suspension of barnacle disbelief.

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Re: Errors that make you cringe
« Reply #6 on: 28 April, 2023, 10:23:49 am »
Then we hear a transcript of the pilot talking to Gander radio. She a had a fairly uneventful flight although ran in to some geese 200 miles back so shut down the "second left engine". Not on a 737 she didn't. It's only got two.
What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the Gander, ect, ect.

Probably wise not to divert to Goose Bay under such circumstances.
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Re: Errors that make you cringe
« Reply #7 on: 28 April, 2023, 04:21:34 pm »
Pearl Harbor - to save time going through the assorted inaccuracies, let's just say that the whole film was an error. :demon:

Same goes for Dante's Peak.
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Re: Errors that make you cringe
« Reply #8 on: 28 April, 2023, 04:43:29 pm »
Yesterday’s Independent crossword had this clue:

Axes cut perfect bars of metal (9)*

I worked it out but would have solved it much quicker if it had correctly said wood rather than metal.

I don’t mind crossword clues being tricky but when they make you spend longer on them than necessary due to this kind of sloppiness, it’s bloody irritating.

*Solution:
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Re: Errors that make you cringe
« Reply #9 on: 28 April, 2023, 04:51:07 pm »
Yes, that's seriously wrong.
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Re: Errors that make you cringe
« Reply #10 on: 28 April, 2023, 05:49:29 pm »
Pearl Harbor - to save time going through the assorted inaccuracies, let's just say that the whole film was an error. :demon:

Same goes for Dante's Peak.

Volcano, which was also released in 1997, got more wrong IMHO.
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Re: Errors that make you cringe
« Reply #11 on: 28 April, 2023, 05:59:21 pm »
Volcano, which was also released in 1997, got more wrong IMHO.

A veritable classic.  A friend who used to teach geography claims it's her favourite comedy film.

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Re: Errors that make you cringe
« Reply #12 on: 28 April, 2023, 07:11:08 pm »
I recall reading some rubbish fiction in which there was a solar eclipse and a full moon on the same day.
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Re: Errors that make you cringe
« Reply #13 on: 28 April, 2023, 07:44:41 pm »
This seems like a good place to mention Piggy's glasses.

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« Reply #14 on: 28 April, 2023, 08:09:59 pm »
This seems like a good place to mention Piggy's glasses.

Tbh I've never thought about that.
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Re: Errors that make you cringe
« Reply #15 on: 28 April, 2023, 09:55:06 pm »
That one's canonical.

See also: "Who's driving the boat?"
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Re: Errors that make you cringe
« Reply #16 on: 28 April, 2023, 10:03:29 pm »
The Cleaner - that was a tawny wol call and you showed a barn wol  :demon:

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Re: Errors that make you cringe
« Reply #17 on: 29 April, 2023, 09:20:15 am »
And "Who shot Nice Guy Eddie?"
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« Reply #18 on: 29 April, 2023, 01:50:20 pm »
A old one was in Hart to Hart ( https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0597299/ this episode, I think). Jonathan Hart uses a red phone box which has the normal payphone for the time in it, one of these:- https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jetZVISLXes/UmkY6G6PZlI/AAAAAAAABFM/FILBMIObtBc/s1600/Payphone_11.jpg

For those of you old enough to remember, to use those, the number was dialed, the connection was made and then money was inserted. The TV show had Jonathan Hart lift the receiver, insert money and then dial the number, which was physically impossible as a bar would prevent the coin going in the whole way.

Some American idiot had gone out of their way to modify a phone box to make it work like an American one and propagate disinformation for any tourists visiting the UK.
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Re: Errors that make you cringe
« Reply #19 on: 30 April, 2023, 12:20:12 pm »
On the subject of Britishisms, I was watching a supposedly British film with British actors in it the other day. It had a thousand errors and plot holes, but one that made me cringe was this: guy goes into a pub and asks for a pint of mild. Ignoring that he was in Portsmouth in 2002 (maybe it was a specialist pub), in the next shot he takes a swig and it's a pale yellow liquid with no head. Small thing, I know, but you'd think *someone* on the mostly British crew would have pointed it out at the time.
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Re: Errors that make you cringe
« Reply #20 on: 30 April, 2023, 01:16:55 pm »
A old one was in Hart to Hart ( https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0597299/ this episode, I think). Jonathan Hart uses a red phone box which has the normal payphone for the time in it, one of these:- https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jetZVISLXes/UmkY6G6PZlI/AAAAAAAABFM/FILBMIObtBc/s1600/Payphone_11.jpg

For those of you old enough to remember, to use those, the number was dialed, the connection was made and then money was inserted. The TV show had Jonathan Hart lift the receiver, insert money and then dial the number, which was physically impossible as a bar would prevent the coin going in the whole way.

Some American idiot had gone out of their way to modify a phone box to make it work like an American one and propagate disinformation for any tourists visiting the UK.

Ah, those were the new UK pay phones.  The ones I remember had Button A on the front and Button B on the side.  You put your 3d in then dialled, and when the other end answered you pressed Button A, your money fell into the box and your mike became live.  If you didn't get an answer you pressed Button B instead and got your money back.  Two things I remember as well: my mum grumbling when it went up to 4d, and going down a line of phone boxes pressing the Button B's in case anyone had forgotten to.  4d could get you a quarter of sweets.
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« Reply #21 on: 30 April, 2023, 03:07:12 pm »
I recently read a fantasy novel in which parts of the plot took place in the real world (Norfolk, Monmouthshire and London). From this novel I discovered that (among other things):

Norfolk is on the Channel coast.
It is possible to take a train from Monmouth.
Hyde Park is a long way from Prince's Gate.

Moreover, the birdlife on the Norfolk coast would have attracted every twitcher within 100 miles. It got to the point that, when one of the main characters is eaten by a crocodile (on the aforementioned Norfolk coast) I wasn't sure whether this was meant to be an intrusion of the fantasy realm on the real world or that the author believed that crocodiles are commonly found in Norfolk. To be fair, she is a New Zealander and can't be expected to have too much local knowledge, but there is such a thing as Google (even in far-off New Zealand).

I'm not going to give the title or author, to protect the guilty. Needless to say I didn't finish the book, and only got as far as I did as I was enjoying the unintentional humour.

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Re: Errors that make you cringe
« Reply #22 on: 30 April, 2023, 03:12:47 pm »
A old one was in Hart to Hart ( https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0597299/ this episode, I think). Jonathan Hart uses a red phone box which has the normal payphone for the time in it, one of these:- https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jetZVISLXes/UmkY6G6PZlI/AAAAAAAABFM/FILBMIObtBc/s1600/Payphone_11.jpg

For those of you old enough to remember, to use those, the number was dialed, the connection was made and then money was inserted. The TV show had Jonathan Hart lift the receiver, insert money and then dial the number, which was physically impossible as a bar would prevent the coin going in the whole way.

Some American idiot had gone out of their way to modify a phone box to make it work like an American one and propagate disinformation for any tourists visiting the UK.

Ah, those were the new UK pay phones.  The ones I remember had Button A on the front and Button B on the side.  You put your 3d in then dialled, and when the other end answered you pressed Button A, your money fell into the box and your mike became live.  If you didn't get an answer you pressed Button B instead and got your money back.  Two things I remember as well: my mum grumbling when it went up to 4d, and going down a line of phone boxes pressing the Button B's in case anyone had forgotten to.  4d could get you a quarter of sweets.
Probably they hadn't modified a payphone, just mocked up a British phone box with a Usanian phone inside. (I'm presuming it was shot in a Hollywood studio. If it was a British series, then it's just weird, and not in a good way.)
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Re: Errors that make you cringe
« Reply #23 on: 30 April, 2023, 03:58:18 pm »
Modification could be little more than a Mk 1 bit of gaffer tape to prevent the receiver depressing the hook switch.  Start a call, 'hang up', film the scene as per the script, remove gaffer tape.

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« Reply #24 on: 30 April, 2023, 04:45:33 pm »
The film U 571 was a bit of an Enigma - or have we already had that?