Author Topic: Free maps for Garmin  (Read 193761 times)

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Re: Free maps for Garmin
« Reply #425 on: 20 September, 2009, 02:57:10 pm »

 What I am really after is a map that also has similar deatil of France (if there is one).

There are links to a couple of good osm maps for France on the osm site or just Google. I used one this summer on my 60 Csx  not so detailed in the  sticks ( La Creuse ) but street level for most urban areas.

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Re: Free maps for Garmin
« Reply #426 on: 20 September, 2009, 04:18:49 pm »
Another plaudit for OSM - I rode out to the coast here in Australia on Saturday.  Not only did Andy's routable mapping get me from from Perth to City Beach on cycle paths and lovely traffic-free routes, but when I got there, I found that most of the footpaths and tracks through the dunes and scrubland had been mapped out.

Awesome  :)
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andygates

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Re: Free maps for Garmin
« Reply #427 on: 20 September, 2009, 06:00:18 pm »
What I am really after is a map that also has similar deatil of France (if there is one).

Cloudmade.com - look in Downloads - do decent Garmin maps of every country; they're not as pimpy as mine though.  Check coverage at openstreetmap.org before deciding if you want to download it :)

Another plaudit for OSM - I rode out to the coast here in Australia on Saturday.  Not only did Andy's routable mapping get me from from Perth to City Beach on cycle paths and lovely traffic-free routes, but when I got there, I found that most of the footpaths and tracks through the dunes and scrubland had been mapped out.

Awesome, it worked!   :thumbsup: 

Oh, just for you I'm looking into streetname lookup.  It'll add some size to the map.  Just need to get the ugly POI that mkgmap inserts invisible.  Unleash the 2x2 transparent GIF!
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Re: Free maps for Garmin
« Reply #428 on: 21 September, 2009, 04:50:46 am »
Streetname and postcode lookup would make Munky-hacked OSM files my default maps of choice, definitely.  As it is, if I'm audaxing and following a route, I think I'd rather have an OSM microSD card in my Garmin rather than a Garmin one because the level of data is richer and it looks nicer.  I'd probably keep the Garmin card handy in case the OSM data's a bit sparse, but it's now at the tipping point where the open source alternatve trumps the paid-for product.

Which is just fabulous.  A real testament to all the hard working OSM people like Andy who show that collaboration beats commercialisation.
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Re: Free maps for Garmin
« Reply #429 on: 21 September, 2009, 05:11:37 pm »
streetname lookup.  It'll add some size to the map.  Just need to get the ugly POI that mkgmap inserts invisible.  Unleash the 2x2 transparent GIF!

You could also achieve this by stacking up several maps. e.g.
Top one is contour lines, transparent.
Middle opaque non-street-POIs.
Bottom with street POIs.

Tal.

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Re: Free maps for Garmin
« Reply #430 on: 23 September, 2009, 07:50:08 am »
Thanks for reminding me - then the fugly streetname POI ought to be hidden.  Ha! Genius.  I'll crack on with that this week.

Have you had any joy with sea polygons?  I've been testing with the Geofabrik IOM and it just does nothing.  That's with 'latest'. 
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Re: Free maps for Garmin
« Reply #431 on: 23 September, 2009, 04:18:42 pm »
Have you had any joy with sea polygons?  I've been testing with the Geofabrik IOM and it just does nothing.  That's with 'latest'. 

It didn't work for me.
One sea was drawing nicely, and the other was reversed (land where there should be sea, and sea where there should be land.)

But I'm using XAPI to get the OSM data.
I should try using Osmosis, or better yet - Splitter.

It's not that important for me, and I guess I could wait till all these problems are sorted.


Speaking of advancements, there's SOME work going on in the MDR File front.
Once this is cracked, then Chalotte could have the address search feature she wants.  :)

Tal.

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Re: Free maps for Garmin
« Reply #432 on: 23 September, 2009, 04:38:59 pm »
MDR file?  I know not this thing.  Is this more reverse-engineering hackery of the IMG format?
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Re: Free maps for Garmin
« Reply #433 on: 23 September, 2009, 06:44:33 pm »
MDR file?  I know not this thing.  Is this more reverse-engineering hackery of the IMG format?

Something like that, yes.
Or from the wiki:
A searchable address table used for finding routing destinations.

It contains several sections, and some work is being done to decipher them and see how they can be produced.

Tal.

andygates

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Re: Free maps for Garmin
« Reply #434 on: 24 September, 2009, 11:13:32 pm »
Oh, remember the National Byway?  It is viewable after all - the tagged bits are here:

OpenStreetMap

If you are looking at one of the routes in the wiki and it has "9327 b a r j" near it, the number is the relation's ID and the 'b' link lets you browse it on the map, showing all the elements and so on.  Handy-dandy!

Making a pretty render of the thing is a whole other ballgame.  Over to someone else ;)
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Re: Free maps for Garmin
« Reply #435 on: 25 September, 2009, 01:17:46 am »
Andy - looking back a few posts it seems like youve put up an OSM map for Australia - is that the 68 mb dl ?.
As I am on some of the worlds slowest internet (in FarNorth QLD) I cant do big dl - so 2nd Q - have you managed to cut out the zaggy main roads that seemed to be in most /all aus OSM mapsets ? (these phantom roads cut across the real red/blue streets).
For anyone coming this way -
 transparent Contours Australia Contours Australia Home Page 733MB in size and there is 117 maps in the set.10m contour line
 For SW Australia Munda Biddy bike track has been mapped near Perth and Collie - on google or (somewhere on) gps.australia.net...

andygates

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Re: Free maps for Garmin
« Reply #436 on: 25 September, 2009, 09:37:13 am »
Andy - looking back a few posts it seems like youve put up an OSM map for Australia - is that the 68 mb dl ?.

Yes.  It was a one-off for Aunty C, but it covers Oz and I *think* most of indopacifico as well - that was the map extract I was offered ;)

As I am on some of the worlds slowest internet (in FarNorth QLD) I cant do big dl - so 2nd Q - have you managed to cut out the zaggy main roads that seemed to be in most /all aus OSM mapsets ? (these phantom roads cut across the real red/blue streets).

Hm, that sounds like 'roads' that were traced from an out-of-copyright map.  There's a similar situation on the Somerset Levels, where it looks like ditches have been drawn as roads.  They're identifiably tagged (highway=road) but at present I *do* include them as most of the time they're real.

(there was a brief discussion a few pages back on whether or not to include 'em)

Clearly if you know them to be wrong, correct 'em in OSM :)

For anyone coming this way -
 transparent Contours Australia Contours Australia Home Page 733MB in size and there is 117 maps in the set.10m contour line
 For SW Australia Munda Biddy bike track has been mapped near Perth and Collie - on google or (somewhere on) gps.australia.net...

Outstanding!  A good contour set really makes the bike maps.
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Re: Free maps for Garmin
« Reply #437 on: 26 September, 2009, 10:38:18 pm »
Making a pretty render of the thing is a whole other ballgame.  Over to someone else ;)
I've included it in my NCN-centric "fork" of your Garmin map - it appears with a brown line. I keep trying to persuade Andy (Allan) to include it in OpenCycleMap!

I'm currently working on a rendering framework that'll hopefully make it much easier for people to design and deploy their own custom maps - so if there's no National Byway map available, you can trivially create your own using OSM data.
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andygates

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Re: Free maps for Garmin
« Reply #438 on: 26 September, 2009, 10:56:41 pm »
Sort of a "pick one of these base styles then add the following route relations and choose their style options" kind of thing?
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Re: Free maps for Garmin
« Reply #439 on: 27 September, 2009, 08:38:50 am »
Now that sounds like fun.  :thumbsup:

andygates

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Re: Free maps for Garmin
« Reply #440 on: 01 October, 2009, 09:37:14 pm »
Mmm, it would be ace!

This week's update adds doctors (to the hospitals and pharmacies already present), quarry and building sites hatched in scary chainlink grey, and wetlands marked with the traditional marsh glyphs.  Nothing technical 'cos I don't have teh brane.  Ready for download from about 23:00-ish.
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Re: Free maps for Garmin
« Reply #441 on: 12 October, 2009, 11:10:46 pm »
Has anyone had any success styling and labelling route relations?  I'm trying to assign a shiny style and a label "Flange Lane (Two Moors Way)" but so far, it's not sticking. 
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Re: Free maps for Garmin
« Reply #442 on: 13 October, 2009, 10:34:44 am »
Andy - my NCN variation of your map does a bunch of stuff with route relations. Have a look at / - Revision 18108: /applications/utils/export/garmincyclemap/network/cyclemap .

I mentioned a new rendering framework a couple of posts ago. It's got to the stage where you can play with it now: Halcyon

Basically it's CSS for maps. The example here is a Flash renderer (which could be embedded in any webpage or in another Flash app), but I'd really like to see it used in other projects with custom rendering - such as mkgmap.
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Re: Free maps for Garmin
« Reply #443 on: 14 October, 2009, 04:30:29 pm »
Well I can't help but I've got a question too.
The OSM map for the UK seems to be spatter-gunned with bus stops.  Mapsource gives these a rather OTT icon which means in many places you just can't see the map for the bus stops.  Heathrow Terminal 5 is a good example.

So I'd like to add a style in a TYP file to replace these default icons with small grey dots.
These POIs seem to be tagged  highway=bus_stop
but in the TYP editor (I use the online one http://ati.land.cz/gps/typdecomp/editor.cgi ) POIs are only identified by strings such as
Type: 0x4c  Subtype: 0x00   
(I know this is an Information Point, but most of them I can't match up)

Am I missing something - is there a lookup table somewhere to match these up?
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andygates

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Re: Free maps for Garmin
« Reply #444 on: 14 October, 2009, 08:40:09 pm »
Here are the ones I currently use.  Ignore the resolution, that's roughly the zoom level and I don't have it behaving quite right.  highway=bus_stop is 0x2f08.

aeroway=airport [0x5900 resolution 20]

amenity=atm [0x2f06 resolution 21]
amenity=bank [0x2f06 resolution 21]
amenity=atm [0x2f06 resolution 21]
amenity=bicycle_rental [0x2e10 resolution 20]
amenity=biergarten [0x2d02 resolution 21]
amenity=bus_station [0x2f08 resolution 21]
amenity=cafe [0x2a0e resolution 20]
amenity=car_wash [0x2f0e resolution 21]
amenity=cinema [0x2d03 resolution 20]
amenity=college [0x2c05 resolution 21]
amenity=courthouse [0x3004 resolution 20]
amenity=drinking_water [0x5000 resolution 23]
amenity=doctors [0x2e05 resolution 20]
amenity=fast_food [0x2a07 resolution 21]
amenity=fire_station [0x3008 resolution 20]
amenity=fuel [0x2f01 resolution 19]
amenity=grave_yard [0x6403 resolution 21]
amenity=hospital [0x3002 resolution 20]
amenity=library [0x2c03 resolution 21]
amenity=parking [0x2f0b resolution 21]
amenity=pharmacy [0x2e05 resolution 20]
amenity=place_of_worship [0x2c0b resolution 21]
amenity=police [0x3001 resolution 21]
amenity=post_office [0x2f05 resolution 20]
amenity=post_box [0x640f resolution 24]
amenity=pub [0x2d02 resolution 18]
amenity=public_building [0x3000 resolution 21]
amenity=recycling [0x3009 resolution 20]
amenity=restaurant [0x2a00 resolution 20]
amenity=school [0x2c05 resolution 20]
amenity=supermarket [0x2e02 resolution 20]
amenity=telephone [0x5100 resolution 21]
amenity=theatre [0x2d01 resolution 21]
amenity=toilets [0x4e00 resolution 21]
amenity=townhall [0x3003 resolution 21]
amenity=university [0x2c05 resolution 21]
amenity=zoo [0x2c07 resolution 21]

barrier=gate [0x300d resolution 20]
barrier=kissing_gate [0x300d resolution 20]

highway=bus_stop [0x2f08 resolution 21]
highway=traffic_signals [0x300b resolution 20]
highway=mini_roundabout [0x300a resolution 20]
highway=crossing [0x300c resolution 20]
highway=ford [0x300e resolution 18]

historic=castle [0x2c02 resolution 20]
historic=museum [0x2c02 resolution 20]
historic=archaeological_site [0x2c02 resolution 21]
historic=memorial [0x2e11 resolution 20]
historic=wayside_cross [0x2e11 resolution 20]


leisure=golf_course [0x2d05 resolution 21]
leisure=marina [0x4300 resolution 21]
leisure=park [0x2c06 resolution 21]
leisure=pitch [0x2c08 resolution 21]
leisure=sports_centre [0x2d0a resolution 21]
leisure=stadium [0x2c08 resolution 21]
leisure=track [0x2c08 resolution 21]

man_made=tower [0x6411 resolution 21]

natural=beach [0x6604 resolution 21]
natural=cliff [0x6607 resolution 21]
natural=peak [0x6616 resolution 21]
mountain_pass=yes [0x6616 resolution 21]

place=city [0x0400 resolution 17]
place=hamlet [0x1100 resolution 20]
place=suburb [0x0a00 resolution 20]
place=town [0x0800 resolution 18]
place=village [0x0b00 resolution 20]
place=island [0x650c resolution 20]

railway=halt [0x300f resolution 18]
railway=station [0x300f resolution 18]
railway=tram_stop [0x2f08 resolution 21]
railway=crossing [0x6406 resolution 20]

shop=bakers [0x2e02 resolution 20]
shop=bakery [0x2e02 resolution 20]
shop=bicycle [0x2e10 resolution 20]
shop=butchers [0x2e00 resolution 20]
shop=convenience [0x2e02 resolution 20]
shop=supermarket [0x2e02 resolution 20]

sport=swimming [0x2d09 resolution 20]

tourism=attraction [0x2c04 resolution 20]
tourism=camp_site [0x2b03 resolution 20]
tourism=caravan_site [0x2b03 resolution 20]
tourism=hostel [0x2b02 resolution 20]
tourism=hotel [0x2b01 resolution 20]
tourism=information [0x4c00 resolution 20]
tourism=motel [0x2b01 resolution 20]
tourism=museum [0x2c02 resolution 20]
tourism=picnic_site [0x4a00 resolution 20]
tourism=theme_park [0x2c01 resolution 20]
tourism=zoo [0x2c07 resolution 20]
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Re: Free maps for Garmin
« Reply #445 on: 15 October, 2009, 10:41:39 am »
highway=bus_stop is 0x2f08.

Better.  Thanks Andy.

Before (NB downsized 50%)

After


oh - and by way of a plug for OSM - this is Garmin mapping's best effort for the same area
Mapsource Metroguide v9
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Re: Free maps for Garmin
« Reply #446 on: 15 October, 2009, 11:40:42 pm »
There seems to have been a change in how OSM is displayed on the slippy map.

I just uploaded some JOSM edits (on Islay), and they showed up straight away.
It used to take a couple of days for edits to show up on all zoom levels. Is the slippy map now displayed direct from the data, rather than from pre-digested tiles as before?

andygates

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Re: Free maps for Garmin
« Reply #447 on: 16 October, 2009, 12:23:46 am »
Rendering time is faster, and if the area hasn't been viewed before, it'll draw pretty much live when you update.  Mashing 'refresh' and zooming right in and out provokes it too. 
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andygates

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Re: Free maps for Garmin
« Reply #448 on: 17 October, 2009, 12:19:56 am »
This week's munkymap update will be in place in a couple of hours.  I've added:

* Names for non-POI places: place=locality in OSM jargon: ad-hoc names for stuff that's hard to map otherwise - the sides of named hills, that corner of a swamp, etc.
* Names for bays and headlands.
* Cliffs are rendered, though ERROR they're rendered as swamps.  Well, you don't want to go to either and I think you'd tell the difference when you got there.  I'll correct this soon.

I've also got the route rendering to sort-of take.  The South West Coast Path is blazed nicely, but other routes in the same class (relation=route, network=uk_ldp) like the Ridgeway are not.  It looks like when it's route=foot it works, but not route=hiking. 

Code: [Select]
type=route & network=uk_ldp {
apply {
set nwn=yes;
set ref='${name}';
}
}

...maybe I need to make that type=route & route=* & network=uk_ldp

This is a WIP.  

I may remove it altogether, or do a 'hiking edition', as the blaze is done with a different line-type and so it might bugger up routing when a hiking route crosses a main road.  In fact a hiking edition is probably more useful as there could be different blazes for local and national paths, etc. 

(Or someone could point me at a UK hiking edition to save the effort?)
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Re: Free maps for Garmin
« Reply #449 on: 06 December, 2009, 02:29:06 pm »
I've sort of read through this thread, or at least the bit before it became a bit technical so sorry if I've missed the dummies guide. Do all of the following statements make sense....

1. I plot my route in advance using bikehike and upload it to the garmin etrex
2. I follow my route with OSM maps on the etrex
3. At some stage I notice that the map's blank
4. I'm OK when I get to a junction though, I just continue to follow my pre-planned route using an arrow that points me in the right direction
5. When I get home, having been alerted to a bit of missing map during the ride, I dutifully update OSM.