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Re: AVRO Vulcan XH558
« Reply #250 on: September 01, 2016, 09:11:54 pm »
Minor whinge. Why the FOOK do journos insist on calling the Avro Vulcan a 'Vulcan bomber'? And for the matter of that they do the same with the bloody Lancaster, too!

Oh! BTW. British Aerospace or whatever you're called this week. Get tae fuck claiming you built it. A V Roe & Company built it. Likewise Rolls Royce, Olympus engines were a Bristol Aero Engines product.
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Re: AVRO Vulcan XH558
« Reply #251 on: September 02, 2016, 01:06:13 am »
Minor whinge. Why the FOOK do journos insist on calling the Avro Vulcan a 'Vulcan bomber'? And for the matter of that they do the same with the bloody Lancaster, too!

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Because neither of them were fighters?

Re: AVRO Vulcan XH558
« Reply #252 on: September 02, 2016, 12:35:01 pm »
To differentiate it from the Vickers Vulcan Airliner of the 1920's  :P

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Re: AVRO Vulcan XH558
« Reply #253 on: September 02, 2016, 12:39:34 pm »
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Re: AVRO Vulcan XH558
« Reply #254 on: September 02, 2016, 12:43:39 pm »
Or the Vulcan American Moth (not to be confused with the De Havilland Moth, Moth Major, Tiger Moth, Gipsy Moth, Leopard Moth, Giant Moth, Moth Minor etc...)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulcan_American_Moth_Monoplane
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Re: AVRO Vulcan XH558
« Reply #255 on: September 02, 2016, 01:54:27 pm »
moth minor is uterly wet and a weed
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Re: AVRO Vulcan XH558
« Reply #256 on: September 02, 2016, 06:16:07 pm »
Is the Noo F-35 Jump Jet (another awful 60s press term!) called a Lightning II after the P-38 (which I get confused with the Westland Whirlwind, not the chopper of the same name) or the EE version? and should it be a Lightning III?

* actually it's not a Jump Jet

and it looks more like a Dyson than a Harrier in hover mode

Re: AVRO Vulcan XH558
« Reply #257 on: September 02, 2016, 10:08:46 pm »
Is the Noo F-35 Jump Jet (another awful 60s press term!) called a Lightning II after the P-38 (which I get confused with the Westland Whirlwind, not the chopper of the same name) or the EE version? and should it be a Lightning III?

As per my post in the Interesting Planes thread, it's named after the P-38. It is a Leftpondian-designed plane after all...

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and it looks more like a Dyson than a Harrier in hover mode

That's what comes of trying to get STOVL capability and supersonic performance in the same aircraft. Thrust is a function of the mass of gas ejected and its velocity - the Harrier's Pegasus engine had a lot of thrust courtesy of a high mass flow, but the exhaust velocity was low compared to a more conventional turbofan with the same thrust rating, so the Harrier was limited to subsonic flight.

Because the JSF was intended to be supersonic, it required a main engine with a high exhaust velocity, but the dry thrust is insufficient to support the aircraft mass in the hover. Another source of thrust is required nearer the forward end of the airframe, hence the lift fan system and its various doors behind the cockpit on the F-35B.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_LiftSystem
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Re: AVRO Vulcan XH558
« Reply #258 on: May 29, 2017, 11:52:33 am »
Saw the excellent Sea Vixen display at Duxford on Saturday, only to then have to do a belly landing back at Yeovilton base (credit to the skills of the pilot) Ironic as it had its wheels down during part of the display.

(excuse crap Sun reporting)
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I can't help thinking that even after another expensive repair it might be curtains for her flying career.

Re: AVRO Vulcan XH558
« Reply #259 on: May 29, 2017, 12:46:21 pm »
Here's a non-Sun report: https://theaviationist.com/2017/05/27/sea-vixen-does-wheels-up-emergency-landing-at-duxford/

I can't help thinking that even after another expensive repair it might be curtains for her flying career.

I agree - this incident, even though it was a landing that the pilot could walk away from, will only add to the post-Shoreham twitchiness about vintage military aircraft.
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Re: AVRO Vulcan XH558
« Reply #260 on: May 29, 2017, 04:45:47 pm »
Here's a non-Sun report: https://theaviationist.com/2017/05/27/sea-vixen-does-wheels-up-emergency-landing-at-duxford/

I can't help thinking that even after another expensive repair it might be curtains for her flying career.

I agree - this incident, even though it was a landing that the pilot could walk away from, will only add to the post-Shoreham twitchiness about vintage military aircraft.
Jets maybe.  They are considerably more complicated and more difficult to keep airworthy than the piston engined stuff that preceded them.  Isn't that what's grounded XH588 and why the chances of restoring a Concorde to flying condition are practically nil?   

Regardless of H&S twitchiness all of the interesting stuff will be grounded in the end as original airframes reach their fatigue lifetimes.  Any "old stuff" flying after that will Ships of Theseus / bitsa jobs or out and out new build replicas.

I don't think Shoreham had anything to do with airworthiness or any sort of mechanical, hydraulic or electrical problem.

Incidentally does anyone know what is happening / has happened to the Firefly MK V that crashed a few (3 to 5?) years ago?
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Re: AVRO Vulcan XH558
« Reply #261 on: June 23, 2017, 09:41:32 am »
Looks like G-CVIX will be out of service for 2-3 years for repairs  :( having only flown a couple of times since last year's flap problem. I'll definitely be buying the Duxford DVD as it could be a historic display