Author Topic: Grammar that makes you cringe  (Read 391273 times)

Kim

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5375 on: September 01, 2019, 01:24:05 pm »
It a natural preamble and as such forms a useful part of speech.  Obviously it's redundant in writing, but this sort of thing is an occupational hazard with informal writing styles.
Careful, Kim. Your sarcasm's showing...

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5376 on: September 02, 2019, 01:02:49 am »
Well, I think I agree with you

Cudzoziemiec

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The unwilling rider and the one who leaves each control in turn without reluctance, with no desire to come back, obviously cannot be making the same journey, even though their brevets are identical.

rower40

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5378 on: September 16, 2019, 09:33:42 pm »
My 2p on the "so" meme:

I will start a sentence with "So" as a shorter form of "And therefore".  So I wouldn't start a paragraph with it - it acts as a weak conjunction joining the two sentences.

HTH.
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mattc

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5379 on: September 17, 2019, 07:07:55 am »
A pub for people who preserve the distinction between plural and singular.
Funnily enough (?) I've just heard Paul Merton survive a related challenge on Just A Minute;
he'd used:
"Innkeepers"
&
"Innkeeper's"
 and thus gained a point for an incorrect challenge.
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T42

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5380 on: September 30, 2019, 01:11:56 pm »
Photograph captions in the past tense are horrible, e.g. in the NYT article on Roy Cohn's FBI file.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/29/nyregion/roy-cohn-fbi-file-trump.html

OK, photographs are always of past events but the caption describes or elucidates what is happening in the picture, so the present tense is appropriate. Past tense is meh: "Roy Cohn questioned a witness in 1954 at a United States Senate hearing." You betcha.

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Basil

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5381 on: September 30, 2019, 01:56:20 pm »
I went to the dentist today, where I was able to read on a display screen that was alternating adverts for very expensive dental procedures and 'interesting' facts;  "The oldest dentures were found in the 3rd century BC"
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T42

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5382 on: October 07, 2019, 08:00:35 am »
Invite used as a noun.
I've dusted all those old bottles and set them up straight.

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5383 on: October 07, 2019, 09:01:07 am »
I note that it follows the verb/noun stress differentiation seen in record and other two-syllable verbs that serve as nouns.
The unwilling rider and the one who leaves each control in turn without reluctance, with no desire to come back, obviously cannot be making the same journey, even though their brevets are identical.

T42

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5384 on: October 19, 2019, 09:14:34 am »
Troop/troops/troopers. Graun: '...the public security secretary Alfonso Durazo said that eight troops and one army officer were “held and later liberated”...'.

That must have been one officer and a hell of a lot of troopers.
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Guy

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5385 on: October 29, 2019, 03:25:46 pm »
From a missive about business continuity

Quote from: Directorate of Security & Resilience
...establishments and business units’ are advised to review...

I am particularly impres's'ed with the s'uperfluous' apos'trophe  :facepalm:
What duck?

meddyg

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5386 on: October 30, 2019, 08:25:12 am »
A magazine for sale in WH Smith titled "Hobby's" !

Guy

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5387 on: October 30, 2019, 08:27:14 am »
A magazine for sale in WH Smith titled "Hobby's" !

AAAAAARRRRRRGGGHHHHH!!!11!!  :hand:
What duck?

T42

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5388 on: October 30, 2019, 09:36:25 am »
I think it's a conspiracy to give old bugger's apoplexy and save money for the NH'S.
I've dusted all those old bottles and set them up straight.

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5389 on: October 30, 2019, 09:16:11 pm »
This one?


It's not about hobbies, it's a catalogue from a company called Hobby.
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ian

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5390 on: October 31, 2019, 09:54:57 am »
Seriously, everyone on this thread gets hoisted. It's excellent.
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5391 on: October 31, 2019, 10:01:30 am »
The unwilling rider and the one who leaves each control in turn without reluctance, with no desire to come back, obviously cannot be making the same journey, even though their brevets are identical.

Kim

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5392 on: October 31, 2019, 12:06:02 pm »
Do uk.com domains count as cringeworthy grammar?
Careful, Kim. Your sarcasm's showing...

meddyg

  • 'You'll have had your tea?'
Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5393 on: November 01, 2019, 08:43:08 am »
This one?


It's not about hobbies, it's a catalogue from a company called Hobby.
Good spot and elucidation - I had to go and hide in the corner of WH Smith in case I was right !

meddyg

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5394 on: November 01, 2019, 08:46:08 am »
Meanwhile, on BBC World Service, interviewer asks Jeff Goldblum
(apparently he sang at Glastonbury last year)

"so, are you proposing to transition from an acting career to singing?"

Transtion as a verb is very groovy lately; probably borrowed from American English
where verbs are nouns and nouns are verbs....

hellymedic

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5395 on: November 02, 2019, 06:37:19 pm »
Email from Dominic Grieve this evening...

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Win or lose, this will be the last time I stand for Parliament. And it's becoming increasingly clear that my last election will also be the most important one I've ever ran in.

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5396 on: November 02, 2019, 10:24:39 pm »
Do uk.com domains count as cringeworthy grammar?
Not really. They are perfectly legitimate domains. It's just that they are American.

Mr Larrington

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5397 on: November 03, 2019, 02:34:04 am »
Email from Dominic Grieve this evening...

Quote
Win or lose, this will be the last time I stand for Parliament. And it's becoming increasingly clear that my last election will also be the most important one I've ever ran in.

I shall report this to my b-i-l, who has been chums with Mr Grieve since they were Penniless Student Oaves together.
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Kim

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5398 on: November 03, 2019, 12:35:21 pm »
Do uk.com domains count as cringeworthy grammar?
Not really. They are perfectly legitimate domains. It's just that they are American.

I suppose it reflects our status as the 51st state...
Careful, Kim. Your sarcasm's showing...

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5399 on: November 03, 2019, 01:57:45 pm »
Invite used as a noun.

Just checked my 2006 Chambers, and it’s in there as a noun, albeit informal.
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