Author Topic: Grammar that makes you cringe  (Read 506079 times)

Kim

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5650 on: May 15, 2020, 09:46:20 pm »
On a similar note, the Chiltern Railways message, "This train is for Solihull/Marylebone/wherever." I keep thinking, "Well, who is against Solihull?" whereas the message is simply missing one word. It should be, "This train is heading for (or bound for) Solihull."
Ooh, it's a long list!
Oi, watch it! I wouldn't mind so much if people could pronounce it properly. It's so-lee-'hull with a final stressed syllable. And it could be worse, it could be Sutton Coldfield.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5651 on: May 15, 2020, 10:42:09 pm »
You can also set something alight but you can't alight anything.
No, but somehow it sounds closer to setting the train on fire than to disembarking from it ;D

Paul

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5652 on: May 18, 2020, 03:28:22 pm »
Just ordered some tights from Endura. Their confirmation email says:

"Thank you for placing an order with us. We are in the process of getting your order ready for shipment and we will follow up to let you know when it is on its way. PLEASE NOTE OUR CURRENT DELIVERY TIMES OUR 10 WORKING DAYS SO PLEASE BARE WITH US."

 ::-) ;D

I think the stuff in capitals was added by someone who didn't draft the first (non-caps) sentence.

(Luckily, I haven't so completely worn the old ones that I am baring anything)
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T42

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5653 on: May 18, 2020, 04:50:59 pm »
Just ordered some tights from Endura. Their confirmation email says:

"Thank you for placing an order with us. We are in the process of getting your order ready for shipment and we will follow up to let you know when it is on its way. PLEASE NOTE OUR CURRENT DELIVERY TIMES OUR 10 WORKING DAYS SO PLEASE BARE WITH US."

 ::-) ;D

I think the stuff in capitals was added by someone who didn't draft the first (non-caps) sentence.

(Luckily, I haven't so completely worn the old ones that I am baring anything)

The first one is a bit prolix.  Could better be "We are getting your order ready for shipment and we will let you know when it is on its way."
I've dusted all those old bottles and set them up straight.

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5654 on: May 26, 2020, 06:34:32 pm »
I've been editing a document about alleged fraud in an Irish bank. The Irish police are called the Garda or informally the Guards. This document referred to them as the Guardia, which made I  :D.

It's also interesting what bank investigator people say to each other when the clients have gone but they've forgotten to turn the recorder off...
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Andrij

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5655 on: May 26, 2020, 10:02:55 pm »
I've been editing a document about alleged fraud in an Irish bank. The Irish police are called the Garda or informally the Guards. This document referred to them as the Guardia, which made I  :D.
...

Did they perhaps mean Gardaí?
;D  Andrij.  I pronounce you Complete and Utter GIT   :thumbsup:

hellymedic

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5656 on: May 27, 2020, 12:44:50 am »

RichForrest

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5657 on: May 27, 2020, 05:26:01 am »
Sign on the M6 "Corley services is still open"  :-\

T42

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5658 on: May 27, 2020, 08:49:46 am »
Funny thing is that if they left out the verb it would be acceptable.
I've dusted all those old bottles and set them up straight.

Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5659 on: May 27, 2020, 09:43:06 am »
As “Corley services” is the name of the particular motorway services area, singular is probably correct. Even if it just said “services”, as an abbreviation of “motorway services area” singular would be correct, though it jars like “Solomon Islands is covid free”


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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5660 on: May 27, 2020, 09:56:34 am »
I've been editing a document about alleged fraud in an Irish bank. The Irish police are called the Garda or informally the Guards. This document referred to them as the Guardia, which made I  :D.
...

Did they perhaps mean Gardaí?
That's what they meant but what they wrote was closer to the parasitic disease Helly mentions. Which might have been amusing if it had been intentional, but it wasn't.
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5661 on: May 27, 2020, 05:33:48 pm »
As “Corley services” is the name of the particular motorway services area, singular is probably correct. Even if it just said “services”, as an abbreviation of “motorway services area” singular would be correct, though it jars like “Solomon Islands is covid free”


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On similar lines, today I read of "a premise" meaning a building.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5662 on: May 27, 2020, 06:15:23 pm »
Should these not be spelling that makes you cringe as it seems more likely than having chosen incorrect grammar?

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5663 on: May 27, 2020, 06:44:21 pm »
Firstly, we'd have to find that thread! The Garda one is obviously spelling, I'd say "services is" and "a premise" are both grammar. But then if we were to be pedantic about thread titles, almost the entire forum would end up here.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5664 on: May 28, 2020, 09:01:55 am »
As “Corley services” is the name of the particular motorway services area, singular is probably correct. Even if it just said “services”, as an abbreviation of “motorway services area” singular would be correct, though it jars like “Solomon Islands is covid free”
Not sure I see this. The name shows that there are multiple services (which is true - food, shops, petrol, etc.) So they are open.

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5665 on: May 28, 2020, 11:08:13 am »
As “Corley services” is the name of the particular motorway services area, singular is probably correct. Even if it just said “services”, as an abbreviation of “motorway services area” singular would be correct, though it jars like “Solomon Islands is covid free”
Not sure I see this. The name shows that there are multiple services (which is true - food, shops, petrol, etc.) So they are open.
Corley services is a motorway service station between junctions 3 and 3A of the M6 motorway in the county of Warwickshire, England. It is close to the village of Corley, with the nearest city being Coventry. A footbridge, made of concrete but now clad in green fibreglass panelling, spans the motorway to link services on both sides.

Corley services are a motorway service station ?


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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5666 on: May 28, 2020, 01:20:06 pm »
Twenty-seven cows are a herd?

The herd is over there. All twenty-seven of it?

There are different ways of describing the same thing. Sometimes you just choose constructions that don't use more than one way at once. So,"Corley motorway services are between...", or, "Corley motorway service station is between..." removes both the problem and the unnecessary repetition of service/services. The issue arises because the station is a location comprising multiple services.

But whatever, really. It's a sunny day outside ;D

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5667 on: May 28, 2020, 02:12:09 pm »
Twenty-seven cows are a herd?

The herd is over there. All twenty-seven of it?

There are different ways of describing the same thing. Sometimes you just choose constructions that don't use more than one way at once. So,"Corley motorway services are between...", or, "Corley motorway service station is between..." removes both the problem and the unnecessary repetition of service/services. The issue arises because the station is a location comprising multiple services.

But whatever, really. It's a sunny day outside ;D
“Corley services” is the name of a particular motorway services station. It is a proper noun. “Solomon Islands” is a country. Burnham Beeches is a nature reserve. Burnham Beeches is closed. The beeches are leafy. Herd is a collective noun and would normally be used in the singular unless you were referring implicitly to the members of the collection. The word “services” in this context on its own is an abbreviation of “motorway services area” and is always plural but singular in construction. If I asked how many services there are on the m6 what would your answer be ? It is clearly ugly and best avoided.


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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5668 on: June 10, 2020, 12:05:10 pm »
"Towing the line" has come up here at least once before. So, I correct that: "While I was toeing the line, I was the go-to person..." (an investigation in managerial abuse of authority) and then in the next sentence: "if you're no longer towing the rope in the direction I want to go, then you get dropped."  :D
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5669 on: June 11, 2020, 06:11:46 pm »
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Three women were left 'embarrassed' after getting stuck in mud at Berrow Beach - despite a warning sign next to wear they had sat.
They aren't the only ones who should be embarrassed.
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/three-people-stuck-mud-after-4215079
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citoyen

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5670 on: June 11, 2020, 08:00:05 pm »
Sign on the M6 "Corley services is still open"  :-\
I thought of you lot when I drove past that self same sign yesterday.

What bothered me more than the grammar was that the sign was positioned after the turn-off point, which seems a bit late to be useful.

That was on the southbound leg of the journey.  Having actually stopped there on the northbound leg, I would also question their definition of “open”.

(Manchester and back, from Kent, to rescue son’s stuff from his student digs. 560 miles inside 13 hours. Fucking tired today...)
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5671 on: June 13, 2020, 04:59:56 pm »
Aah, the Beeb are at it again, apparently hundreds of “mostly white men” gathered in London today.
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citoyen

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5672 on: June 13, 2020, 05:58:25 pm »
Aah, the Beeb are at it again, apparently hundreds of “mostly white men” gathered in London today.
They look mostly pink to me. A similar shade to a cured pork leg, in fact.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5673 on: June 13, 2020, 06:10:07 pm »
Not so much grammar, but over-use of the word absolutely, in response to a question.

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5674 on: June 13, 2020, 09:21:50 pm »
"Do you always give the temperature in degrees Kelvin?"
"Absolutely."
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