Author Topic: Grammar that makes you cringe  (Read 437300 times)

meddyg

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5700 on: June 20, 2020, 08:33:47 pm »
"Those songs Vera Lynn sung were very strong, very emotional."
Thus Sir Tim Rice on I think BBC World Service honouring her memory whilst
confusing his past and past perfect. Maybe he just does the music and someone else the lyrics ?

No, it's sing -sang  -sung
           ring - rang -rung !

I'd like it to be swing - swang - swung too
'Tarzan swang through the trees on a liana'
but apparently its usage is 'archaic.'

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5701 on: June 20, 2020, 09:27:15 pm »
Maybe he just does the music and someone else the lyrics ?

No, Sir Tim is a lyricist. Andrew Lloyd Webber, Elton John, Benny and Björn from ABBA and others write the music for his lyrics.

T42

  • Old fool in a hurry
Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5702 on: June 21, 2020, 08:14:07 am »
"Those songs Vera Lynn sung were very strong, very emotional."
Thus Sir Tim Rice on I think BBC World Service honouring her memory whilst
confusing his past and past perfect. Maybe he just does the music and someone else the lyrics ?

No, it's sing -sang  -sung
           ring - rang -rung !

I'd like it to be swing - swang - swung too
'Tarzan swang through the trees on a liana'
but apparently its usage is 'archaic.'

Yeah, everyone knows these days that they grow up, not down, so using one that way is definitely archaic/fatal.
I've dusted all those old bottles and set them up straight.

Mr Larrington

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5703 on: June 21, 2020, 11:51:25 am »
"Those songs Vera Lynn sung were very strong, very emotional."
Thus Sir Tim Rice on I think BBC World Service honouring her memory whilst
confusing his past and past perfect. Maybe he just does the music and someone else the lyrics ?

No, it's sing -sang  -sung
           ring - rang -rung !

I'd like it to be swing - swang - swung too
'Tarzan swang through the trees on a liana'
but apparently its usage is 'archaic.'

Yeah, everyone knows these days that they grow up, not down, so using one that way is definitely archaic/fatal.

Great cars*, them Lianas!  Apparently the name was an acronym for Life In A New Age :facepalm:

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5704 on: June 22, 2020, 04:02:37 pm »
She will have learned her English as much from her colonially influenced parents as anyone, I would think.  Speakin' that way was usual amongst the rulin' classes, wherever they found themselves.

Still madd'nin', though!

hellymedic

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5705 on: June 22, 2020, 04:11:08 pm »
Miss!
Them last two posts should be in the 'pronunciation' fred!

T42

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5706 on: June 22, 2020, 04:22:38 pm »
Miss!
Them last two posts should be in the 'pronunciation' fred!

haha so they should. 

I was so ragin I mis posted. 




Aargh! I'm sensitive to that word "posted".  18 years ago today I rode into one and my shoulder still hurts if I sleep on it the wrong way.
I've dusted all those old bottles and set them up straight.

hellymedic

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5707 on: June 22, 2020, 08:40:51 pm »
Suggest you 'hit posted', not 'miss posted'....

T42

  • Old fool in a hurry
Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5708 on: June 23, 2020, 09:17:22 am »
Yar.
I've dusted all those old bottles and set them up straight.

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5709 on: June 25, 2020, 10:18:06 pm »
Quote
'Everybody replies to my questions the way they think I want them to reply. You can say that I say "everybody-they"; I hate "everybody-he". "Has everybody brought his or her slate?" a teacher of mine, a great goat of a woman, used to ask us. There is no other tongue in the world as clumsy as our is – with its back to certain corners.'
The speaker is a character in a short story by James Thurber.
My immediate thought was that I always use "everybody-they" even though "everybody" takes a singular verb. Then I realised that I was thinking of consecutive sentences: "Every does this. They all do it." If I were to actually use a pronoun to refer back to "everybody", it would probably depend on the tone of the sentence. Mostly though, it's a construction I rarely use.

It does seem superficially odd that "every" takes a singular verb, especially as we allow flexibility after "each", but it seems to be a feature of several other languages too.
Days become simply the spaces between dreams, spaces between the shifting floors of time...

hellymedic

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5710 on: July 01, 2020, 07:57:22 pm »
A Facebook friend, born in another land, has shared yet another quiz at which she excelled and commented thus:

<<**** **** I passed without a single mistake this grammar examination results. Being an avid reader,helps a lot.>>

I suppose syntax isn't grammar...