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Mr Larrington

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5975 on: January 20, 2021, 05:41:06 pm »
Having lived in The People's Republic of South Yorkshire, I reckon it's a pretty good idea to never use 'while', either.

West Yorkshire's habit of using 'while' to mean 'until' is confusing...

See also the urban legend about Yorkshire folk getting run down on level crossings: “Wait while lights are flashing”.
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Kim

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5976 on: January 20, 2021, 06:54:07 pm »
Having lived in The People's Republic of South Yorkshire, I reckon it's a pretty good idea to never use 'while', either.

West Yorkshire's habit of using 'while' to mean 'until' is confusing...

See also the urban legend about Yorkshire folk getting run down on level crossings: “Wait while lights are flashing”.

Or what actually happened when my Sheffield driving instructor told me to "Stop in this lane."
Careful, Kim. Your sarcasm's showing...

yorkie

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5977 on: January 20, 2021, 07:25:42 pm »
Having lived in The People's Republic of South Yorkshire, I reckon it's a pretty good idea to never use 'while', either.

West Yorkshire's habit of using 'while' to mean 'until' is confusing...


I resemble that remark!!  :-D :-D
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yorkie

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5978 on: January 20, 2021, 07:30:37 pm »
Having lived in The People's Republic of South Yorkshire, I reckon it's a pretty good idea to never use 'while', either.

West Yorkshire's habit of using 'while' to mean 'until' is confusing...

See also the urban legend about Yorkshire folk getting run down on level crossings: “Wait while lights are flashing”.


The version I was told as a kid in South Leeds was when the first Pelican Crossing was installed in the old West Riding and the (London based) authorities put big signs up saying:


"Do not cross while Red Man shows!"  :facepalm:
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5979 on: January 20, 2021, 08:11:12 pm »
Having lived in The People's Republic of South Yorkshire, I reckon it's a pretty good idea to never use 'while', either.

West Yorkshire's habit of using 'while' to mean 'until' is confusing...

Or the Irish habit of using “bring” for “take”.
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hellymedic

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5980 on: January 21, 2021, 01:01:07 am »
Having lived in The People's Republic of South Yorkshire, I reckon it's a pretty good idea to never use 'while', either.
West Yorkshire's habit of using 'while' to mean 'until' is confusing...
I resemble that remark!!  :-D :-D

I worked in Leeds for long enough to be safe...

hellymedic

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5981 on: January 21, 2021, 01:08:11 am »
Having lived in The People's Republic of South Yorkshire, I reckon it's a pretty good idea to never use 'while', either.

West Yorkshire's habit of using 'while' to mean 'until' is confusing...

Or the Irish habit of using “bring” for “take”.

'I doubt that' in Shetland means the opposite...

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5982 on: January 21, 2021, 09:12:55 am »
Like in French "je m'en doute" meaning "I expect so".
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T42

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5983 on: January 21, 2021, 10:30:28 am »
Graun headline the other day mentioned "two National Guard troops" being chucked out of the Inauguration patrol.  Thought bloody hell, that's a lot, but it turned out they just meant troopers. Twats.
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5984 on: January 21, 2021, 11:14:13 am »
Graun headline the other day mentioned "two National Guard troops" being chucked out of the Inauguration patrol.  Thought bloody hell, that's a lot, but it turned out they just meant troopers. Twats.
Yebbut it's the Graun. You're lucky they didn't call them troops. :)
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hellymedic

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5985 on: January 21, 2021, 02:55:26 pm »
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The pig had lied down in its sty but got stuck in the mud could not get herself up," crew manager Lewis Black said.

From https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-55750456

citoyen

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5986 on: January 21, 2021, 02:57:33 pm »
Graun headline the other day mentioned "two National Guard troops" being chucked out of the Inauguration patrol.  Thought bloody hell, that's a lot, but it turned out they just meant troopers. Twats.

You should stop reading the Guardian. It's obviously bad for your blood pressure.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5987 on: January 21, 2021, 06:01:55 pm »
West Yorkshire's habit of using 'while' to mean 'until' is confusing...
Funnily enough, two colleagues from Yorkshire (I was also born in Leeds) just did that in a meeting of my London-based employer:
"How long is it since you've been in Yorkshire?"
(meaning, "For how long have you been basing yourself there for home working?" as opposed to the usual meaning). But none of the southerners present seemed to notice. I might not have done either, but for this thread.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5988 on: January 25, 2021, 07:10:11 pm »
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Movistar Team, one of the most successful and storied teams on the UCI World Tour, need no introduction

What the fuck is storied?
I'm not sure if this is grammar, me not knowing some pro cycling term, or some marketing person just writing shite.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5989 on: January 25, 2021, 07:23:21 pm »
What the fuck is storied?
I'm not sure if this is grammar, me not knowing some pro cycling term, or some marketing person just writing shite.
It is good old English.  Admittedly not often used in these days of txt spk.  Means a long or interesting history.  In this case, your marketing person comment is probably near the truth.

ian

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5990 on: January 25, 2021, 07:51:10 pm »
That's perfectly correct usage, assuming the Movistar team has ended a long and celebrated history as a team on the UCI World Tour.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5991 on: January 25, 2021, 08:21:49 pm »
Most of the recent stories have centred on the bizarre and inexplicable behaviour of Movistar's Strategic Turing Machine, which makes HAL look normal.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5992 on: January 25, 2021, 08:30:49 pm »
That's perfectly correct usage, assuming the Movistar team has ended a long and celebrated history as a team on the UCI World Tour.

It is correct usage, in a deliberately obscure Anthony Burgess-type of way, but I expect it's a typo and they meant to write "stoned".

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5993 on: January 25, 2021, 09:53:03 pm »
If they do it many times, will they be multi-storied?
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T42

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5994 on: January 26, 2021, 08:38:44 am »
That's perfectly correct usage, assuming the Movistar team has ended a long and celebrated history as a team on the UCI World Tour.

It is correct usage, in a deliberately obscure Anthony Burgess-type of way, but I expect it's a typo and they meant to write "stoned".

RI always did have that effect on me.  And a while back it happened to a couple of diagonalistes riding through Montpellier.
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ian

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5995 on: January 26, 2021, 09:45:06 am »
Come on, we should use betterer words.
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citoyen

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5996 on: January 26, 2021, 09:56:58 am »
Come on, we should use betterer words.

The words I use are always the betterest.
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5997 on: February 04, 2021, 12:44:01 pm »
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The paramount objective, was to stop them doing that, to cause them to pause and think.
There's a bit of a trend to put commas between subjects and verbs whenever the subject is more than one word. It, annoys me a lot. I, am grumbling about this.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5998 on: February 04, 2021, 06:56:23 pm »
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The paramount objective, was to stop them doing that, to cause them to pause and think.
There's a bit of a trend to put commas between subjects and verbs whenever the subject is more than one word. It, annoys me a lot. I, am grumbling about this.

(From an interview with Wrong Hammond linked to by Mrs Pingu: https://ukandeu.ac.uk/interview-pdf/?personid=42190)
A comma can be used to indicate a pause, possibly for dramatic effect. I, am happy with that.

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5999 on: February 04, 2021, 07:07:27 pm »
The paramount objective was to stop them doing that. To cause them to, pause, and think.
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