Author Topic: Grammar that makes you cringe  (Read 391260 times)

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5450 on: November 18, 2019, 05:57:37 pm »
So now I know why ice cream is called lody in Polish. Though personally I find the Czech word much more aesthetically satisfying - zmrzlina.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5451 on: November 18, 2019, 06:06:24 pm »
Yeah, already worked out that it's nothing to do with ice.  :facepalm: But not that it was "line".  :thumbsup:

"Flood affects railway"

And the Welsh for ice cream is hufen ia--very roughly*, huvven yah

* the 'u' is pronounced halfway between 'uh' and 'ee'. Varies depending on regional accent.
Mae angen arnaf i byw, a fe fydda'i

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5452 on: November 19, 2019, 06:32:06 pm »
Zmrzlina is a very good word.  :) Unfortunately it's also a bit how I'm feeling right now.  :-\ Perhaps I'm just a "zmrzlak."
The unwilling rider and the one who leaves each control in turn without reluctance, with no desire to come back, obviously cannot be making the same journey, even though their brevets are identical.


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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5454 on: December 01, 2019, 08:45:42 pm »
I liked this one:
The unwilling rider and the one who leaves each control in turn without reluctance, with no desire to come back, obviously cannot be making the same journey, even though their brevets are identical.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5455 on: December 01, 2019, 09:03:18 pm »
I see the Apostrophe Society is being wound up.

That hiker's head would make a good collective plural apostrophe...

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5457 on: December 02, 2019, 03:16:56 pm »
"Based off the book" and general preposition mayhem, largely Transpondian in origin but conveyed hither on Internetting wings like smallpox in reverse.  :sick:
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5458 on: December 02, 2019, 03:35:02 pm »
I see the Apostrophe Society is being wound up.

That hiker's head would make a good collective plural apostrophe...

I think they have always been wound up.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5459 on: December 02, 2019, 04:43:16 pm »
I would be happy to see the back of apostrophes, tbh.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5460 on: December 02, 2019, 05:59:50 pm »
I think they're useful where they indicate contractions but as The Last Remaining Declension of the English Language (do not declensh, it only makes it worse) they've probably outlived their use.
The unwilling rider and the one who leaves each control in turn without reluctance, with no desire to come back, obviously cannot be making the same journey, even though their brevets are identical.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5461 on: December 03, 2019, 11:35:33 am »
Id be happy to see the back of apostrophes, tbh.

FTFY :demon:
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5462 on: December 03, 2019, 11:49:03 am »
Well, I didnt say Id stop using them, as I benefit from the finest comprehensive school education so I know my apostrophising.

But generally theyre mostly redundant, its clear from context. Theyll either die out or well end up adding them to all the plural's.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5463 on: December 03, 2019, 01:01:52 pm »
Perhaps the Young People will start using them to denote passive-aggressiveness or something, causing yet more generational confusion.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5464 on: December 03, 2019, 01:49:53 pm »
Talking of that^^, I read that "old people" have started using a "comma ellipsis" ,,, rather than ... Why? I don't know, but speculation is that it shows up better on a small screen to old eyes. Of course "young people" have started using this ironically, as a sort of punctuation pisstaking meme.
The unwilling rider and the one who leaves each control in turn without reluctance, with no desire to come back, obviously cannot be making the same journey, even though their brevets are identical.

Kim

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5465 on: December 03, 2019, 01:54:52 pm »
Sounds like the sort of thing Gretchen McCulloch's book might cover...
Careful, Kim. Your sarcasm's showing...

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5466 on: December 03, 2019, 02:16:47 pm »
I haven't a clue who Gretchen McCulloch is but maybe that was where I read it. (!) !!! ,,,
The unwilling rider and the one who leaves each control in turn without reluctance, with no desire to come back, obviously cannot be making the same journey, even though their brevets are identical.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5467 on: December 03, 2019, 07:56:54 pm »
A cunning linguist.  From the internets.

https://gretchenmcculloch.com/
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5468 on: December 03, 2019, 11:21:12 pm »
I would be happy to see the back of apostrophes, tbh.

In which case you ought to be a possessive s.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5469 on: December 04, 2019, 07:54:05 am »
Talking of that^^, I read that "old people" have started using a "comma ellipsis" ,,, rather than ... Why? I don't know, but speculation is that it shows up better on a small screen to old eyes. Of course "young people" have started using this ironically, as a sort of punctuation pisstaking meme.

This  seems ,, to be   a common thing,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, among    the Gammonariat,, , along  with random  numbers   of spaces  between      words,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,  and xcrable speling!!!1!
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5470 on: December 04, 2019, 08:20:52 pm »
Oh, I think you find that decimate means kill one in ten, says a passing pedant. No, it doesn't in the 21st century unless you're still using Julius F. Caesar's dictionary.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5471 on: December 04, 2019, 09:02:24 pm »
A cunning linguist.  From the internets.

https://gretchenmcculloch.com/
Cats on walls! Ox heads for glottal stops! Null morpheme!  :thumbsup:
The unwilling rider and the one who leaves each control in turn without reluctance, with no desire to come back, obviously cannot be making the same journey, even though their brevets are identical.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5472 on: December 05, 2019, 02:22:47 pm »
Oh, I think you find that decimate means kill one in ten, says a passing pedant. No, it doesn't in the 21st century unless you're still using Julius F. Caesar's dictionary.
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In fact, by removing apostrophes altogether, the pedantry arsenal is vastly reduced. Without their favourite punctuation mark of judgement, your average pedant will be forced to make do with old favourites such as split infinitives and insisting on the “correct” meaning of “decimate”.
The unwilling rider and the one who leaves each control in turn without reluctance, with no desire to come back, obviously cannot be making the same journey, even though their brevets are identical.

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5473 on: December 05, 2019, 10:32:50 pm »
Oh dear. They'll have to resort to pointing out that that piece is written in the plural (Hardcore apostrophites, people, pedants), until it suddenly, randomly and for no good grammatical reason switches to the modern "false singular" pronoun usage of "their favourite..., your average pedant...", when staying in the plural with pedants would have been far more consistent and flowing.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #5474 on: December 05, 2019, 10:42:31 pm »
Never mind the apostrophe, the current fad for the misplaced question mark is making me annoyed?
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