Author Topic: Save the planet — ban cycle helmets  (Read 2860 times)

andygates

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Re: Save the planet — ban cycle helmets
« Reply #25 on: September 07, 2009, 12:11:10 pm »
Portrayal examples from life:

Chuffy did a set of local ride guides for the Council.  They rejected his photos because the riders weren't wearing helmets.

I gooned up to a photoshoot for the opening of a site facility.  The photographer asked me to be out because I wasn't wearing a hat.

It's not bollocks, it's very much real.  Exactly the same non-grata status as a photo of someone smoking. 
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rae

Re: Save the planet — ban cycle helmets
« Reply #26 on: September 07, 2009, 12:45:54 pm »
That's elf and safety again.

RJ

  • Droll rat
Re: Save the planet — ban cycle helmets
« Reply #27 on: September 07, 2009, 01:17:41 pm »
That's elf and safety again.

... or, more likely, ignorance dressed up as H&S.

Re: Save the planet — ban cycle helmets
« Reply #28 on: September 07, 2009, 01:18:55 pm »
Chipping in my 2p worth - the sorts of people who censor people from photos etc. for nto wearing helmets are IMHO likely not to be cyclists. What is it in the British character which makes people think they can hand out advice to adult strangers?
I remember a conversation with a relative, who was horrified that I did not wear a cycle helmet. I had to stick to my ground very firmly.

Re: Save the planet — ban cycle helmets
« Reply #29 on: September 07, 2009, 01:24:21 pm »
ps. I agree with what the article says. I've said this on here before - take a trip to my local supermarket, all of one mile away. With the car, I decide to go on a whim, leave the front door, go into an underground car park in my normal clothes and shoes. I leave the car in a marked space at the supermarket, and secure it by blipping the key. I have the knowledge that it will be there when I get back (modern central locking and immobilisers have made car theft rare). I take the trolley which has been left in a special paring place near the car and go shop.

On the bike - I get special shoes on to go with the SPD pedals, I put on cycling clothes, and if the H+S types are to be followed I simply must wear a helmet. On arrival at the supermarket I unship two locks, and spend time binding the bike to a secure stand. I then strip it of all removable objects. I still have a fear of the bike not being there when I come out.

Jaded

  • The Codfather
  • Formerly known as Jaded
Re: Save the planet — ban cycle helmets
« Reply #30 on: September 07, 2009, 01:25:44 pm »
That's elf and safety again.

... or, more likely, ignorance dressed up as H&S.

In Hi-Vis, I hope.
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rae

Re: Save the planet — ban cycle helmets
« Reply #31 on: September 07, 2009, 01:28:33 pm »
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On arrival at the supermarket I unship two locks, and spend time binding the bike to a secure stand. I then strip it of all removable objects. I still have a fear of the bike not being there when I come out. 

I think that is a far bigger problem than helmets, but of course, coming down hard on the little shits that steal bikes isn't all that "right on".    There are a number of journeys I make by car rather than bike, simply because I know the bike won't be there when I go back to it.

Zipperhead

  • The cyclist formerly known as Big Helga
Re: Save the planet — ban cycle helmets
« Reply #32 on: September 07, 2009, 01:46:20 pm »
On the bike - I get special shoes on to go with the SPD pedals, I put on cycling clothes, and if the H+S types are to be followed I simply must wear a helmet. On arrival at the supermarket I unship two locks, and spend time binding the bike to a secure stand. I then strip it of all removable objects. I still have a fear of the bike not being there when I come out.

then you need a Brommie. Get on bike (in whatever clothes you happen to be wearing). Ride to supermarket. Fold up bike & take it with you to do shopping.
Our son does know who Boz Scaggs is, we've done ok as parents.

Re: Save the planet — ban cycle helmets
« Reply #33 on: September 07, 2009, 02:22:35 pm »
then you need a Brommie.
Ah! N+1 - I like your thinking Sir.


Get on bike (in whatever clothes you happen to be wearing). Ride to supermarket.
Latex catsuit, clown mask and welders mitts? Not a good look for the supermarket.

mattc

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Re: Save the planet — ban cycle helmets
« Reply #34 on: September 07, 2009, 02:34:46 pm »
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On arrival at the supermarket I unship two locks, and spend time binding the bike to a secure stand. I then strip it of all removable objects. I still have a fear of the bike not being there when I come out. 

I think that is a far bigger problem than helmets, but of course, coming down hard on the little shits that steal bikes isn't all that "right on".    There are a number of journeys I make by car rather than bike, simply because I know the bike won't be there when I go back to it.

That's a good point. However, I suspect it depends on the (perceived?) value of your car vs bike.

When my car was new(er), I was pretty reluctant to park in certain places. They're probably the same places that anyone owning a nice bike would be reluctant to park it. If your car is new enough to have good security, you're more likely to be pi55ed off at minor vandalism of it.

Then there's the issue that supermarkets do generally put the bike parking in a VERY insecure spot, whereas your car is parked under the nose of the security droids.

[It may be true that out-of-town superstores are actually very safe places for bike parking!]
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rae

Re: Save the planet — ban cycle helmets
« Reply #35 on: September 07, 2009, 02:44:59 pm »
A car is parked in a car park with a load of other high value items - so unless yours really stands out, it isn't going to be a target.   Modern cars are also pretty hard to break into and the police also take car theft quite seriously.   A bike, wherever it is parked, is an easy target, and the police don't give two shits about the theft.    It is also easy to nick parts - front wheel, saddle etc.   Again, no one cares.