Author Topic: Cross Training: Rowing (Read 231822 times)

Manotea · « **Reply #250 on:** 04 August, 2010, 10:38:00 pm »

A ~~7:50~~ 7:37 2km tonight, probably my best ever, Such As It Is.

simonp · « **Reply #251 on:** 04 August, 2010, 10:43:41 pm »

Good work! I've not done any for weeks.

mike · « **Reply #252 on:** 05 August, 2010, 08:20:58 am »

I did one! My first 2k in about eight years after I joined the local gym because it was cheaper to join the whole thing and get free swimming than to PAYG to the pool 3x a week, and as part of the compulsory induction they made me warm up on the erg and I quite enjoyed it so it's become the main part of my fortnightly gym session.

Struggled through a 2k a couple of weeks back in 7.28, about a minute off my best from 10 years ago.

Chris S · « **Reply #253 on:** 18 August, 2010, 08:57:21 am »

Dear oh dear... $:-\$

In case anyone was wondering, a fixed SR doesn't do anything to maintain rowing fitness. Just did the first 5,000m session since April. Ugh... that was rough. Exactly 23m, so slow as well as painful.

Ah well, the only way is up...

FatBloke · « **Reply #254 on:** 22 August, 2010, 11:31:43 am »

As of yesterday I am the owner of a 10 year old Concept 2 which has practically never been used.

11 years ago I did a 6:54 for 2000m that gave me a world ranking of 124th.

I think I will be much lower down now! $:-\$

Manotea · « **Reply #255 on:** 22 August, 2010, 08:02:30 pm »

If I had my time again I'd have bought one twenty years ago so the whole family could have enoyed it. Well perhaps enjoy isn't quite the word...

Too late now. Sob.

simonp · « **Reply #256 on:** 22 August, 2010, 08:07:38 pm »

I used to hate it. Couldn't get through 1500m when I was 25. HR in the 180s getting down to 2:05/500.

I find it much easier now.

Swarm_Catcher · « **Reply #257 on:** 27 August, 2010, 02:18:07 pm »

Dog Days of Summer ... done and getting the T-shirt.

Chris S · « **Reply #258 on:** 30 August, 2010, 07:51:25 pm »

Dear oh dear...

I ranked myself for 10,000m today on the Concept 2 logbook.

302 out of 345 in my rank (50-59 yrs).

I have some work to do. HTF do you do 10k in 35 mins?

Manotea · « **Reply #259 on:** 30 August, 2010, 08:00:08 pm »

Quote from: Chris S on 30 August, 2010, 07:51:25 pm

Dear oh dear...

I ranked myself for 10,000m today on the Concept 2 logbook.

302 out of 345 in my rank (50-59 yrs).

I have some work to do. HTF do you do 10k in 35 mins?

I'll let you know as soon as I do!

simonp · « **Reply #260 on:** 30 August, 2010, 08:12:24 pm »

Quote from: Chris S on 30 August, 2010, 07:51:25 pm

Dear oh dear...

I ranked myself for 10,000m today on the Concept 2 logbook.

302 out of 345 in my rank (50-59 yrs).

I have some work to do. HTF do you do 10k in 35 mins?

You maintain a shade over 300 Watts for 35 minutes.

Never gonna happen.

For my PB of 39:29 I would have had to maintain 211 Watts for that time.

Calculators here:

Concept2: Watts Calculator

Put in your target time and distance into the pace calculator, work out the pace, put that into the Watts calculator, then give up and have a beer.

andygates · « **Reply #261 on:** 30 August, 2010, 08:15:08 pm »

Not quite rowing, but I was out for 3:30 today in the kayak and did 14km. I am, needless to say, verrah stiff and sore.

simonp · « **Reply #262 on:** 30 August, 2010, 08:31:59 pm »

I'm 159th out of 424 in the 30-39 age group across light weight and heavyweight; 18th out of 59 in lightweight.

I was probably pretty knackered at the time as it was done 3 days after cycling about 320km round trip to/from a 200 and in the middle of my Hyper Randonneur series.

Chris S · « **Reply #263 on:** 31 August, 2010, 06:24:25 pm »

I've just done my first ever 30'.

6705m, which according to my ranking is this: Crap.

Lots more work to do in the coming months - I would at least like to reach the "average" for my ranking (7042m).

Manotea · « **Reply #264 on:** 08 September, 2010, 01:46:29 am »

5k in 20:15 this evening, another world record. A couple of minutes better than last time out and a much more controlled effort compared with my previous 'fall off the machine & crawl into an iron lung' finish. Could have got under 20 minutes as I was actutally pacing myself for 10k but I rather lost the will to live at the half way point. The question is not so much 'how does anybody row 10k in 35 minutes but rather 'how does anybody row for 35 minutes because it is so incredibly boring'.

campagman · « **Reply #265 on:** 14 September, 2010, 08:43:53 pm »

I have joined the Gym at work where they have some Concept2 rowers. Being inspired by this thread, I thought I would use these more over the coming winter. I have looked at the programmes on the Concept2 site and see that they use heart rate to gauge intensity. This is good for me as I have not got into the world of Power meters yet. Similar to cycling the training zones are based on Max Heart Rate. I thought that Max HR was quite sport specific. Can somebody enlighten me how their rowing Max Hr compares to their Cycling Max HR? As rowing is more of a whole body activity I would expect the rowing Max HR to be higher, maybe.

Chris S · « **Reply #266 on:** 14 September, 2010, 09:12:32 pm »

Good question.

For a constant HR - rowing is MUCH harder than cycling for me. If I row to a HR of 150, I'm right on the ragid edge, sweating profusely, and in the end it's unsustainable. If I cycle at 150, I can keep it up for hours - on road, or on turbo - and still be conversational.

Equally, what is a "Workout" on the rower (130-150bpm), is a "Warmup" on the turbo.

simonp · « **Reply #267 on:** 14 September, 2010, 09:18:24 pm »

Quote from: Manotea on 08 September, 2010, 01:46:29 am

5k in 20:15 this evening, another world record. A couple of minutes better than last time out and a much more controlled effort compared with my previous 'fall off the machine & crawl into an iron lung' finish. Could have got under 20 minutes as I was actutally pacing myself for 10k but I rather lost the will to live at the half way point. The question is not so much 'how does anybody row 10k in 35 minutes but rather 'how does anybody row for 35 minutes because it is so incredibly boring'.

iPod. Use a machine facing the treadmills. etc.

simonp · « **Reply #268 on:** 14 September, 2010, 09:20:56 pm »

I can maintain around 180bpm during a 10,000m effort on the rower, and my maximum achieved HR on the rower in the last 12 months is 195, compared to about 190 on the bike.

OK, so I only did this once, and I was heading for hypoxia at 185bpm during the final 500m.

My theory: It uses more muscle groups and can thus load your system harder, since muscle fatigue then becomes less of an issue as the load is more evenly spread.

Chris S · « **Reply #269 on:** 14 September, 2010, 09:21:08 pm »

Quote from: simonp on 14 September, 2010, 09:18:24 pm

iPod. Use a machine facing the treadmills. etc.

Depends who is on the treadmills.

Nobody likes a fat bloke in lycra on a rowing machine, sporting a semi.

simonp · « **Reply #270 on:** 14 September, 2010, 09:52:26 pm »

Quote from: Chris S on 14 September, 2010, 09:21:08 pm

Quote from: simonp on 14 September, 2010, 09:18:24 pm
iPod. Use a machine facing the treadmills. etc.

Depends who is on the treadmills.

Nobody likes a fat bloke in lycra on a rowing machine, sporting a semi.

Who are you calling fat?

Manotea · « **Reply #271 on:** 23 September, 2010, 11:00:37 pm »

19:50 for 5k tonight. Controlled but still working too hard to relax into longer efforts.

Chris S · « **Reply #272 on:** 23 September, 2010, 11:03:45 pm »

Quote from: Manotea on 23 September, 2010, 11:00:37 pm

19:50 for 5k tonight. Controlled but still working too hard to relax into longer efforts.

Way faster than me. Ease up a bit, and adopt the randonneur's 1,000 yard stare and 10K can be yours easy enough.

simonp · « **Reply #273 on:** 23 September, 2010, 11:24:57 pm »

When I was able to do 19:32 for 5K I was looking like about 41-42 minutes for 10K; you need to drop the pace a fair bit.

The 39:29 was scary. I felt really odd during the final 250m.

Chris S · « **Reply #274 on:** 23 September, 2010, 11:27:51 pm »

44:48 is my "best" for 10K.

You youngsters...