Author Topic: Darwin Awards  (Read 14384 times)

LittleWheelsandBig

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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2017, 07:46:04 pm »
Hopefully mobile man hadn't managed to reproduce yet.
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ElyDave

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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2017, 07:46:23 pm »
now I can understand gas, petrol, and other nasty toxic / woof-bang stuff and have no fear of those. But sparky death - that needs to be kept firmly in the pipes
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woollypigs

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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2017, 08:02:30 pm »
Man now that is a cool thing to end your life with.

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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2017, 10:58:26 pm »
I'm amused by the coroner saying he's going to warn Apple. As if Apple are unaware of the dangers of electrons and water  :facepalm:
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Jaded

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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2017, 11:01:49 pm »
I look forward to another safety page added to the existing ones explaining that you shouldn't charge your phone in the bath. Or wee on it, or feed it to a pig and expect it to work a few days later.
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SoreTween

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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #30 on: March 18, 2017, 08:48:08 am »
I'm amused by the coroner saying he's going to warn Apple. As if Apple are unaware of the dangers of electrons and water  :facepalm:
That struck me too.  Pity the poor sod at Apple who has to find a way to reply to the coroner politely.
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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #31 on: March 18, 2017, 09:36:09 am »
you need a warning to keep mains electric away from water  ???
Back when I was a sparky apprentice in DK, the law/rules on how to wire a house had a paragraph about wiring a bathroom. You could fit a non water proof mains socket in the shower if it was 165cm above ground.

For powering one of those death shower things presumably.

 :o  BigClive being quite impressively 'diplomatic' about it.  Available on Amazon at a bargainous £20.99   :facepalm:
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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #32 on: March 18, 2017, 09:58:18 am »
To be fair, it appears that it wasn't the phone that killed him, it was the mains extension socket that followed it into the water (he'd balanced it on the edge of the bath).

Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #33 on: March 18, 2017, 10:29:54 am »
you need a warning to keep mains electric away from water  ???
Back when I was a sparky apprentice in DK, the law/rules on how to wire a house had a paragraph about wiring a bathroom. You could fit a non water proof mains socket in the shower if it was 165cm above ground.

For powering one of those death shower things presumably.
Those showers are fine if they are properly earthed. Honestly.

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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #34 on: March 18, 2017, 10:39:11 am »
To be fair, it appears that it wasn't the phone that killed him, it was the mains extension socket that followed it into the water (he'd balanced it on the edge of the bath).

It looks like the mains extension socket and charger were on his chest......

There correct procedure is to use some insulated floats for all electrical connectors that would otherwise sink:-


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woollypigs

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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #35 on: March 18, 2017, 11:10:32 am »
These photos above reminds me of what I saw in Patagonia. This photos is one of the ls one of the smaller and best kept main junctions hanging low over the main road. Often wires of random stuff is hanging down and touching the road, could be a main, extension or phone line. Yes there is a normal extension cord in this "nut". I saw one fella just cut the insulation of a main wire, while it was live, and twisted a new lead to it to have a simple light outside. He was one of the more highly qualified sparky's as he used electrical tape after, well it was outside after all.



While in Patagonia I did read that they were trying to do something about it. Because a young girl died after running across a lawn and there was an extension cord in a puddle.

Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #36 on: March 18, 2017, 12:42:07 pm »
To be fair, it appears that it wasn't the phone that killed him, it was the mains extension socket that followed it into the water (he'd balanced it on the edge of the bath).

Out of curiosity - as I am trying to figure this out - do you have a source for that?


Jaded

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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #37 on: March 18, 2017, 12:56:38 pm »
From the BBC story

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Mr Bull is believed to have plugged his charger into an extension cord from the hallway and rested it on his chest while using the phone, the Sun reports.
He suffered severe burns on his chest, arm and hand when the charger touched the water and died on 11 December, the newspaper said.
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hellymedic

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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #38 on: March 18, 2017, 02:08:06 pm »
To be fair, it appears that it wasn't the phone that killed him, it was the mains extension socket that followed it into the water (he'd balanced it on the edge of the bath).

Plz not to confuse issue with relevant facts,
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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #39 on: March 18, 2017, 02:22:16 pm »
To be fair, it appears that it wasn't the phone that killed him, it was the mains extension socket that followed it into the water (he'd balanced it on the edge of the bath).

Out of curiosity - as I am trying to figure this out - do you have a source for that?

A man on the internet told me: someone who is likely to have read the relevant docs.  Though I haven't found any corroboration.

Kim

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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #40 on: March 18, 2017, 02:33:03 pm »
To be fair, it appears that it wasn't the phone that killed him, it was the mains extension socket that followed it into the water (he'd balanced it on the edge of the bath).

Plz not to confuse issue with relevant facts,
Thx

Indeed.  What we really need to know is what app he was using, especially if it involved Pokémon, Emoji or pornography.
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Mr Larrington

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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #41 on: March 18, 2017, 02:44:07 pm »
Or all three?
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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #42 on: March 18, 2017, 04:11:51 pm »
Death during selfie, accidents when using phone diverts attention from things like walking and driving and now bath time phones.

Smart phones indeed, maybe this is how Skynet begins
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Jaded

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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #43 on: March 18, 2017, 04:14:16 pm »
No, Skynet begins with Facebook.  ;)
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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #44 on: March 18, 2017, 04:22:23 pm »
From the BBC story

Quote
Mr Bull is believed to have plugged his charger into an extension cord from the hallway and rested it on his chest while using the phone, the Sun reports.
He suffered severe burns on his chest, arm and hand when the charger touched the water and died on 11 December, the newspaper said.

Cheers. I had mistakenly assumed that he just had the phone and its attached lead in the bath with him, rather than the entire charger and the socket it was plugged in to.

I had been wondering how it happened - I’ve read stories about kids chewing on the ends of live phone charger cables and coming to no lasting harm, so I was curious. But apparently, even though there is only 5V and 2A involved, it is theoretically possible for the phone and lead alone to kill you if you have it in the bath with you.

Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #45 on: March 18, 2017, 04:38:19 pm »
From the BBC story

Quote
Mr Bull is believed to have plugged his charger into an extension cord from the hallway and rested it on his chest while using the phone, the Sun reports.
He suffered severe burns on his chest, arm and hand when the charger touched the water and died on 11 December, the newspaper said.

Cheers. I had mistakenly assumed that he just had the phone and its attached lead in the bath with him, rather than the entire charger and the socket it was plugged in to.

I had been wondering how it happened - I’ve read stories about kids chewing on the ends of live phone charger cables and coming to no lasting harm, so I was curious. But apparently, even though there is only 5V and 2A involved, it is theoretically possible for the phone and lead alone to kill you if you have it in the bath with you.

I would have thought he was killed by the mains extension socket touching the bath water, not from the USB charger and lead.

But "Coroner warning after man electrocuted in bath charging iPhone" or "Man dies charging iPhone while in the bath" is more headline grabbing though.

Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #46 on: March 18, 2017, 06:16:02 pm »
No, Skynet begins began with Facebook.  ;)

FTFY
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Kim

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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #47 on: March 18, 2017, 06:30:22 pm »
I had been wondering how it happened - I’ve read stories about kids chewing on the ends of live phone charger cables and coming to no lasting harm, so I was curious. But apparently, even though there is only 5V and 2A involved, it is theoretically possible for the phone and lead alone to kill you if you have it in the bath with you.

The phone and charger are irrelevant, other than explaining why someone decided to take a bath with a live mains extension lead.

That said, it's possible for the output of a badly designed/constructed charger to become live.  This is why we don't use cheap no-name power supplies without first taking them to bits and confirming they're not deadly.

Case in point, the now legendary cheap shitty pink USB charger from China:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/wqJnFhhPAis&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/wqJnFhhPAis&rel=1</a>
https://youtu.be/wqJnFhhPAis
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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #48 on: March 18, 2017, 07:07:43 pm »
The phone and charger are irrelevant, other than explaining why someone decided to take a bath with a live mains extension lead.

I realise this now, but prior to this realisation, I had thought from my cursory read of the story elsewhere (and the coroner’s comments, notably his plan to write to Apple) that it was only the phone and the end of the charger lead that he took a bath with.

That prompted some Googling and a few posts here and there suggested it was indeed theoretically possible to achieve this unfortunate result without the mains itself contacting the water, even with a legitimate charger.

Vince

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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #49 on: March 18, 2017, 07:14:15 pm »
Case in point, the now legendary cheap shitty pink USB charger from China:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/wqJnFhhPAis&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/wqJnFhhPAis&rel=1</a>
https://youtu.be/wqJnFhhPAis

Before I know it half an hour has passed and I'm now concerned about every Chinese plug-in device we own.
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