Author Topic: Southend Cycle Town - part 2  (Read 110742 times)

Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #125 on: April 06, 2010, 12:01:01 pm »
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To be fair, if the path was one way, ie westward only, It would be reasonable apart from the car parking spaces adjacent to the lane from Peter Pans. Thats just my opinion, others may differ.

I agree...  bar one point.

In order to create the path the road has been narrowed to 3.25m which is in the zone that LTN2/08 and Cycling England say is dangerous.  Although Clandy has it captured on film as ok (in slower moving traffic) I have already had issues in the evening rush hour with traffic pushing past dangerously.

If using the road, once the final paint and signs go in, I expect to get abuse from drivers (although if it were a one way path then there's more reason for me to use it and I probably wouldn't be in the road).

In order to create the path and also retain the central parking bays, everything has been moved north.  This means that the eastbound lane is also narrowed to 3.25m.  Dangerous.

Clandy

Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #126 on: April 07, 2010, 03:55:22 pm »
Drivers are also saying parts of this are dangerous. Their focus is on the new parking arrangement:

Council’s slant on Southend seafront parking is confusing drivers (From Echo)

Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #127 on: April 07, 2010, 09:23:22 pm »
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If using the road, once the final paint and signs go in, I expect to get abuse from drivers (although if it were a one way path then there's more reason for me to use it and I probably wouldn't be in the road).
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I received my first abuse tonight.

Of the predictions of issues we made to the Council at the cycle group meeting, the only one that I'm not aware of happening is the casualty.

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

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Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #128 on: April 08, 2010, 08:18:53 am »
For those who have not seen them; the council has created a set of top trump style cards as part of their marketing campaign for cycling in Southend.

The cards have headlines like
"Locking your bike up safely" with a picture of a bent wheel locked to a railing,
"Looking where your going" with a picture of someone covered in a mound of grass.

Well, here is the card that they left out of the pack....



BTW has anyone who attended the last cycle group meeting received the minutes etc yet?
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Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #129 on: April 08, 2010, 08:23:37 am »
The council seem rather slow in responding to concerns. I have emailed Cllr Waite twice in the last couple of weeks highlighting the concerns over the design of this cycle path. In the second email I also included a link to my video.


So far I have heard nothing in reply.

Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #130 on: April 08, 2010, 08:26:06 am »
So far I have heard nothing in reply.
Could try a tweet. http://twitter.com/cyclesouthend

Clandy

Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #131 on: April 08, 2010, 08:29:10 am »
I don't do Twitter. Is there a facebook group?

Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #132 on: April 08, 2010, 08:35:46 am »

BTW has anyone who attended the last cycle group meeting received the minutes etc yet?


Nope.  But the cycle group chair is from the Bikeability team and doesn't work during school holidays.



The council seem rather slow in responding to concerns. I have emailed Cllr Waite twice in the last couple of weeks highlighting the concerns over the design of this cycle path. In the second email I also included a link to my video.


So far I have heard nothing in reply.
I've had an out of office reply from her.

Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #133 on: April 08, 2010, 08:40:57 am »
So far I have heard nothing in reply.
Could try a tweet. http://twitter.com/cyclesouthend

Twitter.  What an appropriate name for a website -> http://twitter.com/SouthendTory

Following the links from recent twits on there I was so tempted to leave comments.

Clandy

Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #134 on: April 08, 2010, 08:43:25 am »
Interesting she has had time to Twitter on Tuesday, but can't answer her emails.

Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #135 on: April 08, 2010, 08:48:23 am »
Interesting she has had time to Twitter on Tuesday, but can't answer her emails.
Cyclesouthend doesn't seem to have a facebook page. But if you follow nutty's link above you get to A Waste of spaceite's blog.

Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #136 on: April 08, 2010, 09:03:10 am »
Drivers are also saying parts of this are dangerous. Their focus is on the new parking arrangement:

Council’s slant on Southend seafront parking is confusing drivers (From Echo)
Brilliant comments that turn from parking to pro cycling and the use and safety of the shonky bike path.

Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #137 on: April 08, 2010, 11:04:40 am »
Interesting she has had time to Twitter on Tuesday, but can't answer her emails.

Changing topic slightly
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#    work commenced on priory crescent this morning, all going well at present     2:56 AM Mar 20th  via web   

The trees came down during the day on the 20th if I recall, yet at 03:00 that day, whilst most residents were in slumberland, she was happy that the work had started and was going well.

Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #138 on: April 08, 2010, 12:28:06 pm »
@ two_flat_erics

That is mint   ;D ;D :-*

Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #139 on: April 08, 2010, 01:17:23 pm »
So far I have heard nothing in reply.

Won't she be too busy canvassing to worry abot trivia like this?. I've had a letter from my MP (I wrote on another cycling matter some weeks ago). The gist of the reponse was "I'm far to busy with campaigning right now to deal with any correspondence. I might get around to reading your letter some time after the election though". If she deals with the rest of her letters in the same wy she may be job hunting on May 7th.

Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #140 on: April 08, 2010, 01:39:24 pm »
The Evening Echo have been in touch.  Possible photo shoot this evening.  I'll post here what time I'll be stopping outside the Casino tonight.

Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #141 on: April 08, 2010, 01:46:22 pm »
The Evening Echo have been in touch.  Possible photo shoot this evening.  I'll post here what time I'll be stopping outside the Casino tonight.
Not really surprising as the article about parking problems has transformed into dangerous cycle path and is/was the ninth most read story and second for most commented on.

Good luck with the photo shoot. Try and channel John Franklin.  :thumbsup:

Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #142 on: April 08, 2010, 01:58:57 pm »
The Evening Echo have been in touch.  Possible photo shoot this evening.  I'll post here what time I'll be stopping outside the Casino tonight.

17:45 outside the Casino.  If you're passing say hello (I think I have my ACF top on today).

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Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #143 on: April 08, 2010, 02:01:19 pm »
Just a quick glance down and you should be able to tell Nutters.
Certainly never seen cycling south of Sussex

Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #144 on: April 08, 2010, 02:07:23 pm »
17:45 outside the Casino.  If you're passing say hello (I think I have my ACF top on today).
I shall try to get there, although I'm neither photogenic or quotable. ;)

Clandy

Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #145 on: April 08, 2010, 02:16:04 pm »
The Evening Echo have been in touch.  Possible photo shoot this evening.  I'll post here what time I'll be stopping outside the Casino tonight.

17:45 outside the Casino.  If you're passing say hello (I think I have my ACF top on today).

I would have thought the stretch outside the Three Shells, where the parking bays are next to the cycle path, would have been better as that is where the most danger is.

Good luck with the interview. Try to be concise in what you say. This is the Echo after all.

Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #146 on: April 08, 2010, 02:26:53 pm »
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I would have thought the stretch outside the Three Shells, where the parking bays are next to the cycle path, would have been better as that is where the most danger is.
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It won't take a second to meander along there from the Casino.

Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #147 on: April 08, 2010, 02:36:04 pm »
In todays Eve. Echo there is a picture of the newly planted palm trees, a dozen with, I think, 30 more to come, next to the newly laid cycle lane. The new double yellow lines and the 50mm kerb are the only things separating the cycle lane from the "road".  :facepalm:

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Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #148 on: April 08, 2010, 07:25:50 pm »
We came back along the seafront at about 4:30pm today. Nice sunny day, school holidays, needless to say it was busy and all the dangers discussed here were evident.

Cars parked right up to the path. Doors open across the path. Van parked on the path at the Casino. Peds meandering along the path without a care in the world. Traffic was pretty much at a crawl all the way from the Kursal and was still crawling at Shorefield road where we turned off.

Well done to the council for turning a reasonable seafront, that more or less worked for most people, into something that works for no-one and a danger to everyone.
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Re: Southend Cycle Town - part 2
« Reply #149 on: April 08, 2010, 07:39:31 pm »
Oh well.  Photos taken.  Let's see what's published tomorrow.

Ironically it was a bit quiet down there.  Needed a bit of patience waiting to capture any of the incidents mentioned thus far on film  ::-)

Then the photographer left and the cars started parking on the lane again  ::-) ::-) ::-)


Clandy, good to meet you, it'll be interesting to see what your camera footage captured.