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fuzzy (retd.) AAGE

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Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #1800 on: September 02, 2020, 09:52:00 pm »
https://youtu.be/huvhc9MGoeA

This was fun!

They let you out on your own?

Nice one Centurion!
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Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #1801 on: September 03, 2020, 04:15:54 am »
Yeah and I'm getting a lot longer leash now too.
Today was engine failures/autorotations
https://youtu.be/WVPTf_1ucXk

These were (also) a lot of fun to do and a good demo of how a helicopter is still highly maneuverable with the engine out. (granted, we just roll the throttle down so that the rotor just freewheels, but the effect is the same)

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Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #1802 on: September 03, 2020, 07:02:33 am »
An F-16 just screamed over our house at about 100 ft. We get quite a few F-15s and Eurofighters as we are in a low fly training zone but that's the first time I have seen an F-16 here.

Dont see those around here either, could you see who's it was, or was it too quick?
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Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #1803 on: September 03, 2020, 07:35:45 am »
Yeah and I'm getting a lot longer leash now too.
Today was engine failures/autorotations
https://youtu.be/WVPTf_1ucXk

These were (also) a lot of fun to do and a good demo of how a helicopter is still highly maneuverable with the engine out. (granted, we just roll the throttle down so that the rotor just freewheels, but the effect is the same)

Why do you pick the riverbed when there are what look like large, flat, landable fields alongside it?

Did your instructor declare them out of bounds for some reason or am I missing something?

Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #1804 on: September 03, 2020, 08:08:38 am »
An F-16 just screamed over our house at about 100 ft. We get quite a few F-15s and Eurofighters as we are in a low fly training zone but that's the first time I have seen an F-16 here.

Dont see those around here either, could you see who's it was, or was it too quick?

Too quick, didn't see it approach as it came from behind the house. Only saw its underside. It would be helpful if they had nice clear markings like in WWII :)
Don't think the Yanks have any in the UK so it was probably Belgian, Dutch or Danish.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #1805 on: September 03, 2020, 08:13:46 am »
With the river bed, we had a distinct (and repeatable) aiming point. It also presented some obstacles and the point was to be as accurate as possible.  So, it makes a otherwise 'technical' exercise a lot more realistic. You wont always have a nice big field to land in and demonstrating that you know how to maneuver and vary the range is an important aspect.
It also means that you're less likely to buzz a farmer, etc and easily keeps you away from houses.

Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #1806 on: September 03, 2020, 08:20:31 am »
Makes a lot of sense.

Another thought - am I correct in assuming that you did similar exercises pre-solo?  Was this some form of continuation training?

Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #1807 on: September 04, 2020, 12:06:33 am »
Yeah, it's a requirement for doing solo. Not necessarily to be good at them, but to know what to do. When the wind is strong enough, we also train them all the way to the ground (at the home base, where the grass surface is known to be flat enough).  If you do them right, you'll end up landing softly with no forward speed, but as long as you land with say, less than 10-15mph forward speed, it will still feel very gentle.

Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #1808 on: September 05, 2020, 06:22:13 pm »
Just to cap off the week, I had to learn to do log landings.  First was landing with the rear of the skids on a smaller log (branch, really) and then letting the helicopter gently tilt forward until the front of the skids touched and then lower the collective all the way down...hard but doable and felt relatively safe.
Then we did toe-in log landings.  Get the front of the skids on a bigger log, lower collective enough that it sticks, but still keep in the rear of the helicoper in the air (as otherwise you'll strike with the tail rotor, which is kinda a bad thing). Easily the hardest thing I've done sofar. Apparently also 'exciting' for my instructor, as his apple watch HR monitor told him 'workout complete!' as we flew away.
This is not in the official curriculum, but I learned more about hovering in those 10 minutes than I would have done in 2 hours in a 'safe place'.
https://youtu.be/JBwLVwH3tyA

Also did some low level flying exercises which were fun and nowhere near as stressful :)
https://youtu.be/defAng2YSqI

Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #1809 on: September 05, 2020, 07:53:40 pm »
As a child I remember reading a book that was the biography of a British arm helicopter pilot turned MAF missionary pilot. He was in the far east in the ~1980s (Indonesia / Papa New Guinea) during and after an earthquake and was pretty much the only route of evacuation from areas where the landing strips were no longer serviceable.

However in the book he recounted being in the army after completing his flight training and finding himself as co-pilot to his former instructor. Apparently at a low altitude, and over the landing pad, he repaid all the surprise engine out drills and wound the throttle back on the instructor.  :demon: Cue a bumpy landing and an irate instructor.

Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #1810 on: September 10, 2020, 04:14:32 am »
I would love to do that to my instructor...:)

Found an old picture of one of the helicopters I have been flying. This is from the day it was first delivered...in 1957


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Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #1811 on: September 10, 2020, 07:33:22 am »
You suit that raincoat.  ;D
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Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #1812 on: September 13, 2020, 03:44:56 pm »
An 82p Kindle version of a "20 hardback. Rather dry, but it has huge amount of detail about WWII fighter performance, including reports on captured German kit. A real plane geek book.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=flying+to+the+limit&crid=GMW5C87SUL0Z&sprefix=flying+to+the%2Caps%2C151&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-apa-p_1_13
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Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #1813 on: September 13, 2020, 04:20:13 pm »
I would love to do that to my instructor...:)

Found an old picture of one of the helicopters I have been flying. This is from the day it was first delivered...in 1957



Just as well that metal fatigue isnt an actual thing

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #1814 on: September 13, 2020, 05:35:11 pm »
Is that Benny or Bjorn? ;D
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Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #1815 on: September 13, 2020, 05:43:55 pm »
 ;D

Steph

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Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #1816 on: September 13, 2020, 07:51:47 pm »
Is that Benny or Bjorn? ;D

Neither.

Agnetha was having a bad hair day
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #1817 on: September 13, 2020, 10:53:15 pm »
Is that Benny or Bjorn? ;D

Neither.

Agnetha was having a bad hair day
Don't be silly! Agnetha was blond, that must be Frida.

Actual fact:* one of them – Agnetha or Anni-Frid – but I can't remember which, was terrified of flying to the extent that it seriously limited their touring.

*I read this in a TEFL book way back when I was doing that, so it must be true.
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Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #1818 on: September 16, 2020, 05:33:05 am »
Learning how to deal with stuck pedals/tail rotor.
This was more fun than it looks :D

https://youtu.be/UA51nAfmhQk

fuzzy (retd.) AAGE

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Re: Interesting or unusual planes?
« Reply #1819 on: September 18, 2020, 03:24:08 pm »
Is that Benny or Bjorn? ;D

Neither.

Agnetha was having a bad hair day
Don't be silly! Agnetha was blond, that must be Frida.

Actual fact:* one of them – Agnetha or Anni-Frid – but I can't remember which, was terrified of flying to the extent that it seriously limited their touring.

*I read this in a TEFL book way back when I was doing that, so it must be true.
Agnetha
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