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her_welshness

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Big Fat Gypsy Wedding
« on: January 18, 2011, 10:05:50 pm »
I heard good reviews about this on Radio 4 so tuned in this evening.

Utterly fascinating. Its a truly bizarre mixture of strictness and bling! And the grabbing of the girls by the boys reminds me of 'Kiss Chase' from schooldays. And the dresses, oh my  :o

LEE

Re: Big Fat Gypsy Wedding
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2011, 10:09:47 pm »
Slightly bizarre that their "code" only allows girls to go out in the company of other traveller girls, no drink, no mixing with boys...but when they do go out, they look like Hollywood Hookers.

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Re: Big Fat Gypsy Wedding
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2011, 10:20:17 pm »
The girls also seemed to want to do pornstar poses on any car bonnet, pool table, street corner etc whenever somebody pulled out a camera. No sex before marriage... but then, most of them seem to get married at 16 or 17 anyway.

But yeah, quite fascinating. The narration mentioned that there are two separate groups of travellers - Irish and Romany. Do they have much in common culturally then, or are they just lumped together lazily by the media?

Re: Big Fat Gypsy Wedding
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2011, 10:35:49 pm »
I felt really sorry for the kid at Holy Communion

That pink dress that she wasn't even able to walk in is simply child cruelty, as all the other kids were simply laughing at her

As for the "Limo company" - should be prosecuted for the way they allowed the children to behave.


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Re: Big Fat Gypsy Wedding
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2011, 11:15:52 pm »
With reference to the wedding dresses, and their weight...

"girls get scars. They say the more bleeds, the better the dress."
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Re: Big Fat Gypsy Wedding
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2011, 06:35:29 am »
I hadn't planned on watching it as I had it down as about wedding dresses from the half glimpsed trailers but it was interesting. I was surprised at how ignorant of their culture I was.

Re: Big Fat Gypsy Wedding
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2011, 06:37:34 am »
The girls also seemed to want to do pornstar poses on any car bonnet, pool table, street corner etc whenever somebody pulled out a camera. No sex before marriage... but then, most of them seem to get married at 16 or 17 anyway.

But yeah, quite fascinating. The narration mentioned that there are two separate groups of travellers - Irish and Romany. Do they have much in common culturally then, or are they just lumped together lazily by the media?
The usual nomenclature is:

Gypsy = Romany
Pikey = Irish (often offends)

However, "pikey" has the meaning of what my mother would call "common", in these parts, as in "that old Beemer is so pikey" or "white trainers and jeans?  How pikey."
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Rig of Jarkness

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Re: Big Fat Gypsy Wedding
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2011, 06:51:09 am »
I felt really sorry for the kid at Holy Communion

That pink dress that she wasn't even able to walk in is simply child cruelty, as all the other kids were simply laughing at her

As for the "Limo company" - should be prosecuted for the way they allowed the children to behave.


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Re: Big Fat Gypsy Wedding
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2011, 07:21:16 am »
The girls also seemed to want to do pornstar poses on any car bonnet, pool table, street corner etc whenever somebody pulled out a camera. No sex before marriage... but then, most of them seem to get married at 16 or 17 anyway.

But yeah, quite fascinating. The narration mentioned that there are two separate groups of travellers - Irish and Romany. Do they have much in common culturally then, or are they just lumped together lazily by the media?

Romany are very different from Irish travellers - and would not appreciate being described as 'travellers'...
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Re: Big Fat Gypsy Wedding
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2011, 08:18:19 am »

The usual nomenclature is:

Gypsy = Romany
Pikey = Irish (often offends)

However, "pikey" has the meaning of what my mother would call "common", in these parts, as in "that old Beemer is so pikey" or "white trainers and jeans?  How pikey."


I spotted 'P1 KEE' as a car reg last year.  :)


Onna old blue Beemer 3-series...

.. in Swindon.  ;)

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Re: Big Fat Gypsy Wedding
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2011, 12:03:48 pm »
But yeah, quite fascinating. The narration mentioned that there are two separate groups of travellers - Irish and Romany. Do they have much in common culturally then, or are they just lumped together lazily by the media?

The latter.  According to my grate frend Uncle Marvo:

Quote from: Uncle Marvo
On the Irthlingborough camp site there are two tribes. On one side, Romany Gypsies, on the other, Pikeys.

Romany Gypsies are low life time-wasting THE CABINET [The Invigilator] who don't educate their kids, and who are mainly Xenophobic. They are mostly criminally stupid. They are a net drain on the economy. If you leave them alone, they'll leave you alone, and if you don't, they'll moan a lot.

Pikeys are mainly GUINNESS™ BEFUDDLED [The Invigilator] immigrants who choose to "work" by stealing cars and bikes, mostly to order. They are violent and insane, but mostly have IQs in high double figures. If you leave them alone they'll steal from you, if you don't they'll kick you half to death, if you're lucky.

I drink with both sorts. Best to keep "in" with them so you can be easily identified as one who wishes to keep their property and balls intact.

Gippos and pikeys must not be confused.
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Re: Big Fat Gypsy Wedding
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2011, 01:00:17 pm »
Romany are very different from Irish travellers - and would not appreciate being described as 'travellers'...

The programme stated they were different, but didn't explain which group they were showing. Although most of the people featured had watered-down Irish accents.

her_welshness

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Re: Big Fat Gypsy Wedding
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2011, 01:53:59 pm »
Romany are very different from Irish travellers - and would not appreciate being described as 'travellers'...

The programme stated they were different, but didn't explain which group they were showing. Although most of the people featured had watered-down Irish accents.

Some had indeed faint Irish accents and others has real guttural accents.

Mr Larrington's Uncle Marvo's account reminds me of the Booth Poverty Map of 1888, where the streets of London were colour coded as to the types living there: from gold (rich mucky mucks) down to black: vicious; semi-criminal

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Re: Big Fat Gypsy Wedding
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2011, 03:04:42 pm »
The captions on some bits said

"Stroud"


 :o

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Re: Big Fat Gypsy Wedding
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2011, 03:09:40 pm »
You sure it didn't say Swindon?
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Re: Big Fat Gypsy Wedding
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2011, 04:07:35 pm »
You sure it didn't say Swindon?

Don't worry, Swindon made several appearances...
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her_welshness

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Re: Big Fat Gypsy Wedding
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2011, 06:34:32 pm »
And that market at Epsom was immense. Some of the stuff that she was buying I would not even be seen dead having in my flat  :sick:

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Re: Big Fat Gypsy Wedding
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2011, 06:48:32 pm »
But yeah, quite fascinating. The narration mentioned that there are two separate groups of travellers - Irish and Romany. Do they have much in common culturally then, or are they just lumped together lazily by the media?

The latter.  According to my grate frend Uncle Marvo:

Quote from: Uncle Marvo
On the Irthlingborough camp site there are two tribes. On one side, Romany Gypsies, on the other, Pikeys.

Romany Gypsies are low life time-wasting THE CABINET [The Invigilator] who don't educate their kids, and who are mainly Xenophobic. They are mostly criminally stupid. They are a net drain on the economy. If you leave them alone, they'll leave you alone, and if you don't, they'll moan a lot.

Pikeys are mainly GUINNESS™ BEFUDDLED [The Invigilator] immigrants who choose to "work" by stealing cars and bikes, mostly to order. They are violent and insane, but mostly have IQs in high double figures. If you leave them alone they'll steal from you, if you don't they'll kick you half to death, if you're lucky.

I drink with both sorts. Best to keep "in" with them so you can be easily identified as one who wishes to keep their property and balls intact.

Gippos and pikeys must not be confused.
Is that the same Uncle Marvo who had a glittering career in the Diplomatic Corps?

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Re: Big Fat Gypsy Wedding
« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2011, 08:34:30 pm »
We have a new data centre near a West Berkshire market town.  One of the more marginal risks to operations is that the area is precisely where British gypsies hold their annual bare-knuckle fighting tournament.
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Re: Big Fat Gypsy Wedding
« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2011, 08:41:56 pm »
Didn't they have pony trap racing along the A4 near Newbury at some point in the summer?
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Re: Big Fat Gypsy Wedding
« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2011, 08:42:51 pm »
Possibly part of the same festival.
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her_welshness

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Re: Big Fat Gypsy Wedding
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2011, 09:30:56 pm »
Wow, that dress! Wow, the mother of the bride!

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Re: Big Fat Gypsy Wedding
« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2011, 09:41:32 pm »
OMG.  Now they're spray-tanning a six year old.
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Re: Big Fat Gypsy Wedding
« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2011, 09:53:37 pm »
Have they had the poor, hard done by, innocent, law-abiding souls of Dale Farm on yet?

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Re: Big Fat Gypsy Wedding
« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2011, 07:09:08 am »
Have they had the poor, hard done by, innocent, law-abiding souls of Dale Farm on yet?

Oh yes, and a very balanced piece of reporting it was too.  Not.
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