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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #1125 on: October 05, 2018, 05:33:29 pm »
I did :) do I just send a copy of my gps when I'm done?

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You need the perm brevet card unless you entered one of the few perms that can be validated by gps.

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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #1126 on: October 05, 2018, 06:43:59 pm »
I have yet to do a perm by gps but did you not a get a link in the email like youndo with mandatory DIY by GPS? You load your GPS tracklog up at that link.

Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #1127 on: October 05, 2018, 09:11:19 pm »
I didn't get one of those...

Meh, I'll drop the organiser an email at a later date. They've better things to do than be harrassed by me!

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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #1128 on: October 07, 2018, 11:25:12 am »
I didn't get one of those...

Meh, I'll drop the organiser an email at a later date. They've better things to do than be harrassed by me!

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What happened?

I assume the orgs holidaying or somesuch. I'm in the same boat for tomorrow, so have dropped an email.
 I'm gonna ride anyway - good day for a ride to the coast, regardless of validation.
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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #1129 on: October 07, 2018, 04:04:40 pm »
I didn't get one of those...

Meh, I'll drop the organiser an email at a later date. They've better things to do than be harrassed by me!

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What happened?

I assume the orgs holidaying or somesuch. I'm in the same boat for tomorrow, so have dropped an email.
 I'm gonna ride anyway - good day for a ride to the coast, regardless of validation.
Not sure.

Haven't chased the organisers up yet, i did enter without much time  to spare and these  guys are volunteers and all.

was a nice ride, COLD though :)

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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #1130 on: October 09, 2018, 11:26:03 am »
Some perm rides available, Ok one I looked at, was substantially underdistance between controls (gmaps walking).  How does this work, are there additional control specified by the organiser?  Just on etiquette, is contacting the organiser required, if for instance, one thought about turning it into a MDIYxGPS?
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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #1131 on: October 09, 2018, 03:54:01 pm »
Might be a 'legacy' ride where gmaps not used?
Best to talk to the organiser to clarify.

Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #1132 on: October 10, 2018, 10:13:52 am »
Thanks.  I found the Perm website details online; didn't realise that info controls existed on Perms though.  As it turns out I may do significant detours to call in on in-laws, so will probably ride something similar, but with different 'controls', as a MDIYxGPS...
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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #1133 on: October 10, 2018, 12:24:15 pm »
Some older perms also don't have all the controls listed, presumably just human error.

INFOs were allowed backintheday, so that's possible too.

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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #1134 on: October 15, 2018, 02:12:18 pm »
Hi, can you ride a permanent route but start and finish at a different location on that route? I have a few local to me that pass by my house that I would like to do but they start 30KM away, not sure if that matters or not? Thanks.

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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #1135 on: October 15, 2018, 02:27:16 pm »
Check with the individual organiser. They say yes more often than not.
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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #1136 on: October 15, 2018, 02:42:02 pm »
They will probally ask for proofs from wherever you start & finish. Helpful if you live between controls or accessing the route from a station between controls.

Orgs are generally fairly laid back about these things, though some will insist you start at 2am from a specified location, whatever, for logistical reasons which are not necessarily immediatly obvious.

Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #1137 on: October 15, 2018, 03:14:48 pm »
Great, thank you for that, I'll get in touch with the organiser.

Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #1138 on: October 16, 2018, 10:09:57 am »
How long would you leave it before chasing up an ECE? Not that I'm arsed about the point mind, more I'd rather know if I cocked it up so I know for future reference...

(I did cock it up. Or at least the people who built the new bridge over the Wear cocked it up, the usual 100km round trip to Ponteland is now only 98km  :facepalm:).

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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #1139 on: October 16, 2018, 09:44:39 pm »
If I do a diy by gps (mandatory route), and take my youngest on a tag-along (basically tandem), I assume we both get validation, even though there is just one track log?

What if I take the other along (on a solo bike), still only one gps... but now three riders...

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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #1140 on: October 16, 2018, 09:53:06 pm »
I think you need a GPX file each.
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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #1141 on: October 18, 2018, 08:48:45 am »
I would expect a tandem only needs one GPX file (i.e. the same file is used for both submissions) but a separate solo rider would be expected to submit their own GPX file.
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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #1142 on: October 18, 2018, 09:31:50 am »
A photo or two can be helpful.

Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #1143 on: October 18, 2018, 05:41:34 pm »
I don't know if the rules have changed in the last few years, but it used to e that each rider needed their own track even on a tandem.
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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #1144 on: October 18, 2018, 05:45:41 pm »
Yup
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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #1145 on: October 30, 2018, 09:11:23 am »
I have a quickie about riding perms that have AAA points with GPS validation. Basically are AAA points affected by deviation from the route?

Presumably if you were validating in the traditional way with brevet card, deviating from the route a little to miss a stinger of a climb in favour of a slightly gentler one would be fine and no one would know in any case, if you're validating with a GPS file could the organiser take a dim view of this?

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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #1146 on: October 30, 2018, 04:42:53 pm »
I have a quickie about riding perms that have AAA points with GPS validation. Basically are AAA points affected by deviation from the route?

Presumably if you were validating in the traditional way with brevet card, deviating from the route a little to miss a stinger of a climb in favour of a slightly gentler one would be fine and no one would know in any case, if you're validating with a GPS file could the organiser take a dim view of this?

AIUI, the route is designed so you can't really get around the climbing. Yes the climb around might be gentler, but the net result will still be X000m of climbing, hence you quite often find controls at the top of a hill.

I have certainly been validated with GPS on at least one perm where I definitely went off route for the last 25km but still controlled where I needed to control.

If in doubt, ping the org.

 
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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #1147 on: October 30, 2018, 06:49:51 pm »
I have certainly been validated with GPS on at least one perm where I definitely went off route for the last 25km but still controlled where I needed to control.

If it's not a mandatory route (most perms are not) then obviously you can do that.
If its not a DIY then the AAA points attached to the Permanent would stand, regardless of deviations.
If it is a mandatory route then deviation from the route could mean the whole ride is not valid, never mind the AAA.
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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #1148 on: October 30, 2018, 07:00:45 pm »
Thanks for the replies, presumably it is plainly obvious on the AUK webpage for the event if it is a mandatory route?

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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #1149 on: October 31, 2018, 01:18:35 pm »
can anyone remind me what i need to do for a brm event completed abroad to show up on my auk account. the homologation list is here

Send an e-mail to the recorder.   Or use the contact form on the AUK website.

thanks rob, i've sent a message to the recorder, but no reply or updates yet to my "results" in almost a month..