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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #450 on: May 01, 2013, 12:36:44 pm »
Sure - during the ride. I thought that was the question.

No idea what I had afterwards. My eating habits are rubbish.

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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #451 on: May 02, 2013, 07:01:57 am »
That's food an drink on the 200  I doubt it meant all day.
For some of us, they mean pretty much the same thing!
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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #452 on: May 08, 2013, 02:17:44 pm »
 ;D
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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #453 on: May 12, 2013, 05:32:42 pm »
Can I ece a perm  ???

I want to make the 2 battles up to 300k by doing the extra at the end. 

The 2 battles is 212k so do I just need to find an extra 88k?

I'd rather use the battles route seeing as I know it so well.  Otherwise I'll just sort out my own 300k.

Thanks.
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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #454 on: May 12, 2013, 05:37:21 pm »
No, not currently.

Martin proposed it a while back. I thought it was great, but several loud members shouted it down , on the grounds that noone would want to ride such a thing.

(I'd ride them. )

oh, and I think you'd need a whole extra 100k, if the system existed!
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fungus

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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #455 on: May 12, 2013, 05:47:50 pm »
Cheers Matt!  Looks like I'll be sorting out a diy route then  :-\
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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #456 on: May 12, 2013, 10:53:52 pm »
same with the fleet moss 212k.  the reason is that the route might be 212k but it is only validated as a 200k... there might be shortcuts.  I will probably do it as a 300 this time round (did it as a 400 last year) but am now savvy - I drive to within 50 and a bit k to save going over Lindale Hill for no points!

fungus

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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #457 on: May 14, 2013, 12:15:28 am »
300k route sorted:

Amington - Newark on Trent   86k
Newark on Trent  Horncastle   58k
Horncastle - Collingham    48k
Collingham - Melton Mowbray   51k
Melton Mowbray - Amington   63k
Total                                    306k
 
Just gotta ride the bugger now  :)

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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #458 on: May 14, 2013, 07:09:37 pm »

Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #459 on: June 05, 2013, 02:07:21 pm »
Can anyone tell me what audax ecosse is exactly?

I've tried searching but I can't work out if it is part of audax uk or a separate club?

Or is it one of those secret things where if you tell me you'll then have to kill me? In which case leave me in ignorance please  ???
Audax Ecosse - always going too far

Hillbilly

Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #460 on: June 05, 2013, 04:01:28 pm »
Good question! 

At face value, it is simply a collective banner under which randonneurs can associate for the purpose of PBP registration (the governing body, ACP, require you to be part of a registered "club").

But as is the way of these things, it also serves as a way for audaxers in Scotland to identify with each other in a loose way, without the traditional organisation of a club structure (for example, there is no committee).

Similar comments apply for yACF.

Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #461 on: June 05, 2013, 06:02:22 pm »
Thanks!  :thumbsup:
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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #462 on: June 05, 2013, 10:46:49 pm »
Good question! 

At face value, it is simply a collective banner under which randonneurs can associate for the purpose of PBP registration (the governing body, ACP, require you to be part of a registered "club").

But as is the way of these things, it also serves as a way for audaxers in Scotland to identify with each other in a loose way, without the traditional organisation of a club structure (for example, there is no committee).

Similar comments apply for yACF.

That's the official line we peddle, it's what we want outsiders to think. The real purpose of Audax Écosse, however, ...   :-X
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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #463 on: June 05, 2013, 10:56:10 pm »
is to displace Haggis as the tradtional gastronomic delight  of Scotland with Forfar bridies ;D

Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #464 on: June 06, 2013, 08:17:46 am »
Oh no I just read that! Will I be terminated now?  :o
Audax Ecosse - always going too far

jogler

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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #465 on: June 06, 2013, 08:23:45 am »
I don't think Termination is an automatic sanction.AIUI it is at the discretion of the Audax Ecosse Star Chamber.No doubt a member of the Clan McEcosse will be along shortly to clarify.
 ;D

Hillbilly

Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #466 on: June 06, 2013, 09:22:05 am »
By the way, as I understand it, you don't actually have to be Scottish or live in Scotland to associate with Audax Ecosse (but are required to do at least one audax event in Scotland). 

I've toyed with affiliating with it in the past (being an ex-pat Scot who makes a point of doing at least one ride up in Scotland every year) but to date have affiliated with my local (traditional, non-audax) club.  I may do so for PBP 2015 though, as it was noticable that people's attitudes (particularly USAians, Aussies and Canadians) felt more positive when I slipped on my Scotland flag top at the 2007 edition (and because I will probably not renew my membership for the local club beyond this year).

Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #467 on: June 06, 2013, 09:46:05 am »
300k route sorted:

Amington - Newark on Trent   86k
Newark on Trent  Horncastle   58k
Horncastle - Collingham    48k
Collingham - Melton Mowbray   51k
Melton Mowbray - Amington   63k
Total                                    306k
 
Just gotta ride the bugger now  :)

I will be wanting to do a DIY 300 later this year, as i live not far from Melton this looks ideal, do you have a GPX i could crib?

pretty please O:-)!

Ian

Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #468 on: June 06, 2013, 12:52:57 pm »
By the way, as I understand it, you don't actually have to be Scottish or live in Scotland to associate with Audax Ecosse (but are encouraged to do at least one audax event in Scotland). 

I've toyed with affiliating with it in the past (being an ex-pat Scot who makes a point of doing at least one ride up in Scotland every year) but to date have affiliated with my local (traditional, non-audax) club.  I may do so for PBP 2015 though, as it was noticable that people's attitudes (particularly USAians, Aussies and Canadians) felt more positive when I slipped on my Scotland flag top at the 2007 edition (and because I will probably not renew my membership for the local club beyond this year).

My lbs offers a 10% discount if you're a member of a club and I'd wondered about Audax Ecosse (family +work preclude a local club). I live in scotland and have just done the Deeside loop since joining audax uk this spring, but I'm signed up for Forres Foray and hoping to do more next year.

Do you apply to affiliate or is there a complex initiation ceremony (involving bridies?)
Audax Ecosse - always going too far

Hillbilly

Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #469 on: June 06, 2013, 01:10:52 pm »
No need to notify anyone.  Just change you club affiliation via the membership details page on the Audax UK website.

That said, I'm not sure Audax Ecosse would necessarily tick the box for 10% discount.  What the LBS will have in mind is something like Dundee Thistle, Angus Bike Chain, etc which are traditional local cycling clubs who charge a membership levy, are run by committee and which they would like to have regular business from more than one person. 

That said, I've found that the 10% discount offered by LBS "for local clubs" is generally there if you observe that you'd seen it for less on the internet and was hoping they'd go part way to meeting that price as you want to support local businesses.  This generally ticks a box for them, as does the notion that if you become a regular then they'll make more money in the future on things like servicing etc.

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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #470 on: June 06, 2013, 01:20:16 pm »
Do you apply to affiliate or is there a complex initiation ceremony (involving bridies?)
Only if you're very lucky.  :-X

AIUI, the only requirement to join Audax Écosse is to complete an audax in Scotlandland. This rule was made up by somebody inna pub in Embra some time last century.

It's a bit weird, but actually quite wonderful.

Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #471 on: June 06, 2013, 01:28:41 pm »
Great thanks  :thumbsup:

the lbs sometimes give me a discount anyway, but sometimes ask for a club. The last time I mumbled CTC and got away with it, but Audax Ecosse sounds better I think  :)
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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #472 on: June 09, 2013, 08:41:06 am »
This is a daft question, and I think I know the answer, but what should be considered more definitive - the minimum speed listed in Arriveé or the control open/close times on the routesheet?

We had a bit of a "squeaky bum moment" suddenly finding ourselves running out of time and dashing back to the final control before it closed, only to find it'd been calculated to close at a different average speed and we should have had another hour!  :o

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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #473 on: June 09, 2013, 09:05:54 am »
I'm guessing that was probably an over-distance event registered as a BRM.  BRM rules are that finish times are not calculated by speed, they are simply set times, with no allowance for over-distance.  So for example a 300km finish time is set as 20h (==15k/h).  If it is actually 310km, the time remains the same but that is now (==15.5k/h), but intermediate controls will still be timed at 15k/h which is the fastest 'minimum' that AUK's rules allow. 
So yes, in this instance the final leg can be a bit of a rush for the slowest riders, with (in the example above) 40 minutes lost.  The situation is exacerbated if the organiser has set a lower min speed, such as 14.5kph (this shouldn't really happen, but it is possible under AUK's rules).
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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #474 on: June 09, 2013, 09:24:57 am »
It's a populaire, minimum speed is at the org's discretion.
I'd go with what's on the brevet card, generally.
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