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PBP control times 84hours
« on: April 11, 2011, 08:47:11 pm »
Is this roughly right?



                   PBP Checkpoints                           *
*                           84 Hour Group                            *
*                       Start: 05:00 AM monday                      *
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*        Checkpoint             KM    Day  Open        Day  Close    *
*--------------------------------------------------------------------*

   St Quentin En Yvelines        0    mon  05:00:00    mon  05:00:00
   Mortagne Au Perche          141    mon  09:05:00    mon  13:45:00
   Villaines La Juhel          220    mon  11:25:00    mon  18:40:00
   Fougeres                    303    mon  14:00:00    mon  23:50:00
   Tinteniac                   356    mon  15:45:00    tue  03:20:00
   Loudeac                     441    mon  18:35:00    tue  08:35:00
   Carhaix                     517    mon  21:10:00    tue  13:20:00
   Brest                       604    tue  00:05:00    tue 18:40:00
   Carhaix                     685    tue  03:10:00    wed  01:00:00
   Loudeac                     761    tue  06:10:00    wed  07:15:00
   Tinteniac                   846    tue  09:30:00    wed  14:10:00
   Fougeres                    899    tue  11:40:00    wed  18:45:00
   Villaines La Juhel          982    tue  14:55:00    thu 01:20:00
   Mortagne Au Perche         1061    tue  18:25:00    thu  07:10:00
   Nogent Le Roi              1145    tue  22:20:00    thu  13:00:00
   St Quentin En Yvelines     1202    wed  01:00:00    thu  17:00:00

   Min Finish Time = 44 Hrs
   Max Finish Time = 84 Hrs

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Re: PBP control times 84hours
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2011, 10:12:42 pm »
from here ?

RUSA: PBP 1995 Checkpoints

More-or-less right, I'd say.  With a control at Dreux between Mortagne & StQenY on the way home rather than Nogent, and a likely overall distance nearer 1220

Re: PBP control times 84hours
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2011, 10:16:56 pm »
Yes from the rusa site...but I changed the days.

The timings seem a bit awkward for the first night stop. You are almost forced to ride to Loudeac.

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Re: PBP control times 84hours
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2011, 10:51:15 pm »
Loudeac wasn't a problem for us last time, despite a significant degree of faffage and some good long control stops. 

You might be there too early...

Re: PBP control times 84hours
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2011, 12:54:36 am »
Maybe I'm late to the party, but nice to see you're joining us in August.

We (the usual three of us) are going with the race to brest, tour back plan. 30 hours should see us to the start of our holiday riding east. Wanna join in? We might even let you take the GC (but we'll fight for the intermediate sprints).

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Re: PBP control times 84hours
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2011, 05:53:41 am »
Is the column on the left your target arrival time for the controls?

If so, I have concerns.

You are in danger of arriving too early unless you limit yourself to <35kmh rolling speed between controls. Are you sure you can exercise this level of restraint?

Oh, and a word to the wise regarding the offer of a tow to Brest by Mr & Mrs Hopper. Postie tried this option on the Dean but they made him stand on the corner of a lane whilst they had some 'private time' together. All very humiliating as I think he was expecting to at least watch if not lend a hand in some way.

Think on.

H

Re: PBP control times 84hours
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2011, 05:54:55 am »
Cheers Paul, but I'm planning on buzzing mattc for the entire ride.

Wanna join in?

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Re: PBP control times 84hours
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2011, 11:24:17 am »
Cheers Paul, but I'm planning on buzzing mattc for the entire ride.

Wanna join in?
Hopefully I'll have at least 7 hours head-start on you. May the best man win!

(Bit worried about some of your comments; are you planning on riding in the dark?  :o )
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Re: PBP control times 84hours
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2011, 11:30:12 am »
(Bit worried about some of your comments; are you planning on riding in the dark?  :o )

Nah, 30hrs to Brest includes 8hrs sleep and an hour at every control.

Re: PBP control times 84hours
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2011, 12:10:11 pm »
Relax a bit. I've never looked at control times, just ridden at a reasonable pace. I only discover what times I managed when the card comes back.

Re: PBP control times 84hours
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2011, 12:29:16 pm »
I am relaxed, but I need to have an idea of control times to book accomodation. I know I can do the distance in 84 hours, but I would like to do it with three nights of 8 hours rest/sleep   ;)

 P.S. Plus I'm not sleeping in a vast hall full of stinking, snoring, farting old men.

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Re: PBP control times 84hours
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2011, 12:33:06 pm »
It might be quite tricky to find accommodation close to the route, near Loudeac.  There isn't much, and much of it was booked up a while back. 

It's possible that some may be freed up when people on the 90 hour start realise that Loudeac doesn't work too well with the new start times...

Re: PBP control times 84hours
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2011, 12:51:06 pm »


 P.S. Plus I'm not sleeping in a vast hall full of stinking, snoring, farting old men.

Okay. Now I'm really offended.

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Re: PBP control times 84hours
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2011, 02:21:29 pm »
Less of the Old................

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Re: PBP control times 84hours
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2011, 02:42:04 pm »
P.S. Plus I'm not sleeping in a vast hall full of stinking, snoring, farting old men.
In 07 I successfully minimized the time spent in such facilities.

The similarities between our plans probably ends there ...
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arabella

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Re: PBP control times 84hours
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2011, 09:34:33 pm »
P.S. Plus I'm not sleeping in a vast hall full of stinking, snoring, farting old men.
Is there a separate room for ladies then?  We are perfumed, and of course neither sonre nor fart.
In the dark, all views are the same.

Re: PBP control times 84hours
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2011, 09:49:45 pm »
P.S. Plus I'm not sleeping in a vast hall full of stinking, snoring, farting old men.
Is there a separate room for ladies then?  We are perfumed, and of course neither sonre nor fart.
The lady sitting next to me on the sofa is the exception to the rule ;D
#makewattsnotwar

Jes

Re: PBP control times 84hours
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2011, 10:01:05 am »
P.S. Plus I'm not sleeping in a vast hall full of stinking, snoring, farting old men.
Is there a separate room for ladies then?  We are perfumed, and of course neither sonre nor fart.

When I was a kid I had a Ladybird book on Florence Nightingale. In it a picture of Scutari hospital - rows and rows of beds as far as the eye could see. When I walked into Loudeac in '07 at about 9.30pm and got a bed, that illustration came rushing back to me. The picture came to life. The grunting, snoring and smell of 300+ sweaty, farting men was something not to be forgotten - or repeated. I tried to sleep but the senses were assailed from every direction and I gave up and got back on my bike!

I've no objection to shared farcilities but one snoring farting man is quite enough!! From then on sleeping facilities werre avoided in favour of any floor or bench will do.

I did get a bed in a "ladies" room at Dreux after a controller there refused to let me leave before I had had a couple of hours sleep - after being caught with my face in my croissant -  And that was absolute bliss. ;D

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Re: PBP control times 84hours
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2011, 11:30:54 am »
The grunting, snoring and smell of 300+ sweaty, farting men was something not to be forgotten


I've never figured this.  Some people just seem to let themselves go on these events, and stink to high heaven. There are showers available, FFS, and it's not that difficult to have clean clothes for every day. 

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Re: PBP control times 84hours
« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2011, 02:11:02 pm »
It's even in the rules somewhere!
(but I think after even 10 hours on the bike, some folks will get pretty stinky.
Not ladies of course - they merely glow).

I might get a doctors certificate that I neither snore nor fart - i then expect to be allowed entry to the Unisex Quiet Dorm. (it's only a small minority that snore properly, but sadly they really do ruin it for the rest! Earplugs pretty much do the job for me, especially if I have a few 100km in my legs. )
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Re: PBP control times 84hours
« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2011, 02:14:58 pm »

(but I think after even 10 hours on the bike, some folks will get pretty stinky.

Indeed, can't complain about that; it's the going-to-bed-with-no-shower and putting-the-same-shirt-on-next day that I struggle with the concept of.  Hell, in 2007 I even shaved every morning !

red marley

Re: PBP control times 84hours
« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2011, 02:23:06 pm »
I've never figured this.  Some people just seem to let themselves go on these events, and stink to high heaven. There are showers available, FFS, and it's not that difficult to have clean clothes for every day.  

I'd go further and add 'have a shower' to the top tips for longer rides (600+). The showering facilities during PBP 2007 were good (including cheap hire of towels and shampoo). It really helps in breaking up the ride and I felt like a new rider after each of mine.

Unfortunately, the almost continuous rain meant that my shoes never really lost their odeur, so apologies to anyone who had to suffer in my wake.

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Re: PBP control times 84hours
« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2011, 02:25:48 pm »
Shame about people having their shorts stolen :(
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red marley

Re: PBP control times 84hours
« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2011, 02:26:30 pm »
Oh yes, I forgot to add - cheap towels to hire and free shorts.

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Re: PBP control times 84hours
« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2011, 05:11:13 pm »
Back OT, I just found my start times from 2007 when I was looking for something quite different

Here they are, shifted by a day.

kmOpensCloses
SAINT-QUENTIN-EN-YVELINES0Mon   Mon   05:00 AM
MORTAGNE-AU-PERCHE140Mon   09:05 AMMon   01:30 PM
VILLAINES-LA-JUHEL222Mon   11:30 AMMon   06:30 PM
FOUGERES310Mon   02:10 PMMon   11:50 PM
TINTENIAC364.5Mon   03:50 PMTue   03:10 AM
LOUDEAC449.5Mon   06:40 PMTue   08:15 AM
CARHAIX-PLOUGUER525.5Mon   09:15 PMTue   12:55 PM
BREST614.5   Tue   12:20 AMTue   06:30 PM
CARHAIX-PLOUGUER699Tue   03:45 AMWed   01:05 AM
LOUDEAC775Tue   06:55 AMWed   07:05 AM
TINTENIAC860Tue   10:25 AMWed   01:50 PM
FOUGERES916.5   Tue   12:45 PMWed   06:10 PM
VILLAINES-LA-JUHEL1002.5Tue   04:25 PMThu   01:10 AM
MORTAGNE-AU-PERCHE1084.5Tue   07:55 PMThu   07:00 AM
DREUX1158.5Tue   11:05 PMThu   12:10 PM
SAINT-QUENTIN-EN-YVELINES1227Wed   02:00 AMThu   05:00 PM