Author Topic: Why can't we have these? Japanese train hit 501kmh (Read 3689 times)

Aidan · « **on:** 23 July, 2011, 11:44:33 am »

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=150_1311372503

Sounds good too!

Biggsy · « **Reply #1 on:** 23 July, 2011, 11:47:46 am »

Nice. We'd need better tracks first.

Can you post links/pics?

nicknack · « **Reply #2 on:** 23 July, 2011, 12:16:21 pm »

If you do 'quote' you'll see the the link.

That really is amazing.

geraldc · « **Reply #3 on:** 23 July, 2011, 12:26:17 pm »

You need straight lines for fast trains, that means tunnels, bridges and moving existing residents. People won't go for it, just so someone can get somewhere a little bit faster. That and it costs a shedload of cash.

rogerzilla · « **Reply #4 on:** 23 July, 2011, 12:30:52 pm »

And the people of Great Missenden won't like it.

Aidan · « **Reply #5 on:** 23 July, 2011, 12:43:14 pm »

No idea why link isnt showing in my post

I've tried a straight link, and also inserting a hyperlink , it's there, just not showing

orienteer · « **Reply #6 on:** 23 July, 2011, 12:51:48 pm »

Japan is planning a second HST line between Tokyo and Osaka using Maglev trains.

Unlike the NIMBYs here, people actually want the line to serve their localities.

Adam · « **Reply #7 on:** 23 July, 2011, 01:29:36 pm »

HS2 wouldn't be serving the localities surely - after the CrossRail junction, isn't it designed to be non stop to Birmingham?

Mind you, I was definitely in favour of HS2, until I spent quite a bit of time researching the arguments for and against it.

Biggsy · « **Reply #8 on:** 23 July, 2011, 02:48:56 pm »

Got a link that shows via Tinyurl. Maybe the forum is alergic to LiveLeak?

Japanese Maglev train goes 501 km/h

That's 311 mph. Flippin' eck.

That will impress even motorbikers.

Aidan · « **Reply #9 on:** 23 July, 2011, 02:53:01 pm »

Still something not right though, the last line of your post isn't showing

Biggsy · « **Reply #10 on:** 23 July, 2011, 02:54:55 pm »

My post is all showing ok to me, via Firefox and IE. Try reloading.

Aidan · « **Reply #11 on:** 23 July, 2011, 02:56:18 pm »

Strange! it is showing now

BrianI · « **Reply #12 on:** 23 July, 2011, 07:53:42 pm »

Why doesn't British Rail invent a high speed train that tilts at a jaunty angle when going around Britian's rather twisty trainlines?

oh, wait.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9rBcSZb3bE]

mcshroom · « **Reply #13 on:** 23 July, 2011, 08:15:47 pm »

The APT was doomed because of two big problems. The first was that the lines and signalling were not upgraded (indeed they still haven't been for it's reincarnation the Pendolino) so it would never be able to go at 125mph on the railway.

The second was the bad publicity it got when it broke down on the press demonstration. Unfortunately if it doesn't work for the press in this country then it's never allowed to be a success. See for example the millenium dome which by all acounts of visitors during it's operation it was a good experience, but the press were absolutely scathing about it because they were left out in the cold for a few hours at the opening ceremony.

The end of that clip shows the prototype HST/Intercity 125 set so we don't mess all of those things up.

Doosh · « **Reply #14 on:** 23 July, 2011, 08:28:37 pm »

Pah! It's got a bit to go yet for a record

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8skXT5NQzCg

Aidan · « **Reply #15 on:** 23 July, 2011, 08:32:35 pm »

Interesting video about the Maglev

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/VuSrLvCVoVk&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/VuSrLvCVoVk&rel=1</a>

Adam · « **Reply #16 on:** 23 July, 2011, 08:44:31 pm »

Quote from: Aidan on 23 July, 2011, 08:32:35 pm

Interesting video about the Maglev

That seemed rather old, as at the end they were talking about a decision having to be made in 2005 about proceeding.

And they were quoting $100 billion as being the cost of a Maglev line back then for the 500 km between Tokyo and Osaka, so add on 50%. $:-\$

Mind you, I'm certain I remember Michael Rodd on Tomorrow's World in the late 70's showing a Maglev prototype, so the future's still out there.

Aidan · « **Reply #17 on:** 23 July, 2011, 08:59:07 pm »

Quote from: Adam on 23 July, 2011, 08:44:31 pm

Quote from: Aidan on 23 July, 2011, 08:32:35 pm
Interesting video about the Maglev

Mind you, I'm certain I remember Michael Rodd on Tomorrow's World in the late 70's showing a Maglev prototype, so the future's still out there.

I remember that too!

Bledlow · « **Reply #18 on:** 23 July, 2011, 09:17:36 pm »

Quote from: orienteer on 23 July, 2011, 12:51:48 pm

Japan is planning a second HST line between Tokyo and Osaka using Maglev trains.

Unlike the NIMBYs here, people actually want the line to serve their localities.

The NIMBYs in Buckinghamshire are complaining about a proposed line that won't serve their localities, even if they want it to. It'll be non-stop from London to Birmingham.

Giraffe · « **Reply #19 on:** 24 July, 2011, 06:12:29 pm »

Chinese trains can hit more than that.

Jaded · « **Reply #20 on:** 24 July, 2011, 06:37:02 pm »

Another problem with the APT was that if you put the two power units required at either end there was a need for a huge cable running between them which was NOT SAFE.

So they put the power cars in the middle. Which meant two buffets, two train crew etc.

Jakob · « **Reply #21 on:** 26 July, 2011, 02:17:02 am »

Quote from: Doosh on 23 July, 2011, 08:28:37 pm

Pah! It's got a bit to go yet for a record

Nope:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/VuSrLvCVoVk&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/VuSrLvCVoVk&rel=1</a>

ScumOfTheRoad · « **Reply #22 on:** 26 July, 2011, 06:53:19 am »

I agree with Mcshroom about the Millenium Dome - I was there, and it was marvellous. The Press had daggers drawn for it from the start, and it was deemed to be a failure before it got a chance to show itself.

Regarding HS2 I actually totally agree with the Cotswolds objectors - why should we need to drive a new line through that area?
We have perfectly good existing rail lines in the UK - look closely at the Marylebone line, up through Banbury and Leamington Spa to Bristol Snow Hill. An existing alignment, which has short diesel trains trundling up and down it all day. I used to travel on there regularly - there is more capacity on that line, and why not just electrify that line?
OK, I know it is not that easy just to lay a high speed track next to an existing one - bridges and tunnels are already in place for the existing railway, but surely it is not beyond the wit of man to use existing alignments and stations?

LittleWheelsandBig · « **Reply #23 on:** 26 July, 2011, 07:04:20 am »

Sure. All it takes is more time, more money and more compromises in train speed compared with building on a new alignment. High speed trains require a different design approach than low speed trains; much less horizontal deviation but allowing somewhat greater grades.

Valiant · « **Reply #24 on:** 26 July, 2011, 09:03:43 am »

I love Maglevs they are eerily stable at speed. It's scary and beautiful.

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