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Re: Television tonight, whats worth watching
« Reply #1400 on: January 07, 2019, 01:51:25 pm »
I must be a really hopeless case. Manhunt last night on ITV1 was really enjoyable, despite being about the hunt for Levi Belfield. Martin Clunes always came across as the affable buffoon from MBH and as a result I avoided his stuff.

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Re: Television tonight, whats worth watching
« Reply #1401 on: January 09, 2019, 09:42:58 pm »
Seconded.  We're 2 episodes through on ITV player.  It's very watchable.

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Re: Television tonight, whats worth watching
« Reply #1402 on: January 11, 2019, 10:05:31 pm »
Sorry for this being after the fact. Stewart Copeland on Drums, BBC4. Well worth a watch on iPlayer...
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Re: Television tonight, whats worth watching
« Reply #1403 on: January 14, 2019, 03:13:30 pm »
And nest week it's Tina Weymouth on Bass.  I think there's a guitar one too.
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Re: Television tonight, whats worth watching
« Reply #1404 on: January 14, 2019, 09:48:04 pm »
And nest week it's Tina Weymouth on Bass.  I think there's a guitar one too.

Thanks for the heads up. That one will definitely be worth watching.

Re: Television tonight, whats worth watching
« Reply #1405 on: January 20, 2019, 01:13:54 pm »
And nest week it's Tina Weymouth on Bass.  I think there's a guitar one too.

Thanks for the heads up. That one will definitely be worth watching.

It is. Herbie Flowers on the overdub for the baseline on Walk on the wild side was a revelation and strangely moving.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

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Television tonight, whats worth watching
« Reply #1406 on: January 20, 2019, 04:40:21 pm »
Yep, really good. I’d never even heard of Carol Kaye before so that bit was educational. And Herbie Flowers talking about Walk On The Wild Side was indeed quite moving.

Loved the story about how the Marcels came to record Blue Moon as well.

The only disappointment was that because Tina Weymouth was presenting it, there wasn’t enough of her actual playing.

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« Reply #1407 on: January 20, 2019, 06:03:18 pm »

The only disappointment was that because Tina Weymouth was presenting it, there wasn’t enough of her actual playing.
They probably learnt that lesson with Stuart Copeland.  ;D

Who - being sherious - did a good job on his episode. He actually let people talk, and got interesting stuff out of them.

[I've NEVER listened to drumming properly, so perhaps I have a tin ear for these things? But I think they could have laboured the basics a bit more, just to ... err "drum in" the key concepts e.g. which IS the backbeat?? etc. I still learned a lot, mind :)
Enough to want to watch Whiplash one day ...]

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Re: Television tonight, whats worth watching
« Reply #1408 on: January 20, 2019, 08:14:36 pm »
[I've NEVER listened to drumming properly, so perhaps I have a tin ear for these things? But I think they could have laboured the basics a bit more, just to ... err "drum in" the key concepts e.g. which IS the backbeat?? etc. I still learned a lot, mind :)

Agreed.

Also disappointed that it pretty much ended with New Order, as if nothing interesting happened musically after that (by contrast the bass one took us right up to Dizzee Rascal).

Did like the bit about the dude who invented the bass drum pedal though.

I would have liked to hear more of Tina's playing simply because she is responsible for some of my all-time favourite bass lines*, but that said, one of the most interesting things about her programme for me was finding out more about the people who influenced her, such as James Jamerson.

*eg:
https://youtu.be/ZXzDh1Q1JsM
https://youtu.be/5IsSpAOD6K8
https://youtu.be/_3eC35LoF4U
and of course: https://youtu.be/jzIuZ-mrIL0

Re: Television tonight, whats worth watching
« Reply #1409 on: January 20, 2019, 09:33:02 pm »

The only disappointment was that because Tina Weymouth was presenting it, there wasn’t enough of her actual playing.
They probably learnt that lesson with Stuart Copeland.  ;D

Who - being sherious - did a good job on his episode. He actually let people talk, and got interesting stuff out of them.

[I've NEVER listened to drumming properly, so perhaps I have a tin ear for these things? But I think they could have laboured the basics a bit more, just to ... err "drum in" the key concepts e.g. which IS the backbeat?? etc. I still learned a lot, mind :)
Enough to want to watch Whiplash one day ...]

Try listening to Led Zepplin, when I was younger I thought they were all about Plant and Page but actuaĺly its the rythem section that made them so interesting.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

Re: Television tonight, whats worth watching
« Reply #1410 on: January 20, 2019, 09:47:02 pm »
Yep, one of my faves for rhythm is Trampled Underfoot.
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Re: Television tonight, whats worth watching
« Reply #1411 on: January 21, 2019, 12:38:51 am »
We've had drums and bass yet no one has mentioned Fleetwood Mac.

50 years under the radar...?
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Re: Television tonight, whats worth watching
« Reply #1412 on: January 21, 2019, 08:11:43 am »
We've had drums and bass yet no one has mentioned Fleetwood Mac.

IIRC there was a brief clip of The Chain in the bass ep.

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Re: Television tonight, whats worth watching
« Reply #1413 on: January 21, 2019, 11:33:25 am »
I'll have to watch it again.
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Re: Television tonight, whats worth watching
« Reply #1414 on: January 22, 2019, 07:23:54 pm »
Has anyone mentioned Tin Star??

Tim Roth showing just how amazing he is, if given a decent script.

(but shame on the relevant TV companies - running trailers for SERIES TWO during ad-breaks???  :facepalm: Oh my daze ... )
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Re: Television tonight, whats worth watching
« Reply #1415 on: January 23, 2019, 10:02:32 am »
And nest week it's Tina Weymouth on Bass.  I think there's a guitar one too.

Guitar one to be presented by Lenny Kaye who, apart from playing with Patti Smith, also compiled the indispensible garage rock, er, compiliation "Nuggets".

I found the bass one a bit flat for no reason that I can really put my finger on (except for, perhaps, its utter failure to mention Lemmy).
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Re: Television tonight, whats worth watching
« Reply #1416 on: January 23, 2019, 10:33:02 am »
I found the bass one a bit flat for no reason that I can really put my finger on (except for, perhaps, its utter failure to mention Lemmy).

And why would it ? The point of this series is follow the development of each instrument in popular music not to be a "famous drum breaks" or "my favourite baseline" compilation. It's the same reason "The Chain" didn't get mentioned. I love Lemmy but his bass playing didn't break new ground nor was it the nest example of a genre. As he oft repeated himself Motorhead just play rock and roll - loud (and it was f**king loud, several Motorhead Concerts in the 80s left me with ringing ears for days, wouldn't be allowed now).
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

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Re: Television tonight, whats worth watching
« Reply #1417 on: January 26, 2019, 11:54:43 pm »
Enjoyed the Bass with Tina Weymouth. Bootsy Collins was quite bonkers. Also enjoyed James Jamerson.
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Re: Television tonight, whats worth watching
« Reply #1418 on: February 20, 2019, 12:10:37 pm »
Baptiste.  I'm not going to do any spoilers, but it's very good so far.

Re: Television tonight, whats worth watching
« Reply #1419 on: February 20, 2019, 12:33:32 pm »
If you like your motor racing, this is worth a catch-up on iPlayer.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0002p1x/williams-formula-1-in-the-blood
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Re: Television tonight, whats worth watching
« Reply #1420 on: February 20, 2019, 12:54:57 pm »
If you like you're motor racing, this is worth a catch-up on iPlayer.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0002p1x/williams-formula-1-in-the-blood

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Re: Television tonight, whats worth watching
« Reply #1421 on: February 20, 2019, 01:55:28 pm »
The Defiant Ones on iplayer. Story of Dr.Dre/Jimmy Iovine and how they became billionaires (literally). I am not a rap music fan but could see how Dre had an ability and once in with NWA his career took off. But of course there are guns/drugs/girls/car crashes along the way as well as lawyers and music biz shenanigans. Luckily Iovine/Dre are kindred spirits and Iovine can talk the talk.

Also the Michael Portillo Railway Journeys. It pains me to like this as I dont like him but he keeps his chatter low key and goes to some interesting places. Currently the series has gone from Ireland to West Coast of Scotland and some stunning scenery.

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Re: Television tonight, whats worth watching
« Reply #1422 on: February 20, 2019, 02:30:35 pm »
Also current iPlayer fodder is Michael Portillo on the railways and personnel of WWI.
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Re: Television tonight, whats worth watching
« Reply #1423 on: February 21, 2019, 08:17:27 am »
If you like you're motor racing, this is worth a catch-up on iPlayer.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0002p1x/williams-formula-1-in-the-blood

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Thirded.

Re: Television tonight, whats worth watching
« Reply #1424 on: February 21, 2019, 08:20:40 am »
If you like you're motor racing, this is worth a catch-up on iPlayer.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0002p1x/williams-formula-1-in-the-blood

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Thirded.

Fourthed. It's good even if your not a motor racing fan just as the story of some very complex family relationships.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.