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Re: Stopping smoking: when?
« Reply #250 on: July 15, 2013, 05:26:42 pm »
I wouldn't worry about being arsey and a miserable bastard.  I'm that and I still smoke.
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Re: Stopping smoking: when?
« Reply #251 on: July 15, 2013, 05:33:02 pm »
Arsey goes with the territory.

My young ones used to ask their mother's permission to talk to me, I was that scary.

They gave me a lot of slack over that time, to help me through it. If you have the help of those around you - that really helps, even if you only appreciate it much later. Probably when someone says something like "Fucking hell Pa, you were a miserable sod. And Scary. We thought you might kill us all in our beds, actually."

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Re: Stopping smoking: when?
« Reply #252 on: July 15, 2013, 09:39:46 pm »
On the not sleeping front, when my colleague gave up earlier this year she used patches. She had to stop wearing one overnight because they were giving her really horrible dreams.
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Re: Stopping smoking: when?
« Reply #253 on: July 15, 2013, 11:23:50 pm »
Thanks for the ongoing encouragement, all :)

On the not sleeping front, when my colleague gave up earlier this year she used patches. She had to stop wearing one overnight because they were giving her really horrible dreams.

That may be pertinent - I have been wondering if I am taking the last of my nicotine tabs too close to bedtime. Mind you, tobacco before bedtime didn't seem to cause problems. Hopefully the sleep thing will settle the f* down soon as I am getting seriously sleep deprived. Going to bed earlier doesn't help as that just means I wake up even earlier.

Re: Stopping smoking: when?
« Reply #254 on: July 16, 2013, 08:46:23 am »
Is there any way you could avoid addiction to the nicotine tabs by reducing their intake progressively? Myself, I turned to pipe smoking at first which became very enjoyable (no inhaling) and breaking that habit was relatively easy compared to the cigs. It also improves your health risks :thumbsup:
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Re: Stopping smoking: when?
« Reply #255 on: July 16, 2013, 11:16:15 am »
Is there any way you could avoid addiction to the nicotine tabs by reducing their intake progressively? Myself, I turned to pipe smoking at first which became very enjoyable (no inhaling) and breaking that habit was relatively easy compared to the cigs. It also improves your health risks :thumbsup:

Next up, when I can be arsed, is to make an accurate count of the number of tabs I'm using, with a view to reducing them.


Re: Stopping smoking: when?
« Reply #256 on: August 15, 2013, 11:21:33 pm »
Struggling a little bit... This week I have, twice, bought a pack of 10, smoked one, and chucked / given the rest away. I didn't get any real pleasure out of it, didn't for a moment feel that this is something I want to do again, but it's worrying that at this stage I'm occasionally failing to resist the urge.

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Re: Stopping smoking: when?
« Reply #257 on: August 15, 2013, 11:59:19 pm »
It's a Big thing to do so a bit of a struggle shows you're still beating it!
I used the Vaping and after twenty odd years of 60 a day made a definite on the 21st October 2012.
Since then I've bought 3 packs of 24 cigarettes, a little over what I would normally have smoked in a day!
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Re: Stopping smoking: when?
« Reply #258 on: August 16, 2013, 07:17:17 am »
Well, breaking the habit, which I tried many times during 50 years smoking the weed (about 25 each day) was a total failure for me. Even watching my 40 a day father die didn't shock me sufficiently enough to stop smoking.

I then read on the Internet that a gradual switch to pipe smoking was the easiest way by far (no inhaling) and less harmful. I  tried a few pleasant tobaccos and found one that suited me.

Whilst returning from some overseas Consultancy work I developed the biggest cold and flu ever. No, not caused by the pipe smoking, but my Clients offices which were freezing. After five days or so I felt a lot better, but then questioned myself, why smoke again? and yes that is what resulted. It was so easy to stop, I could hardly believe it myself.

Here ended  a lifetime, about 60 years in total, of smoking. I still keep my pipes and the partly filled pouch of tobacco to remind me what I achieved on that day ;D

Please try it, have a lousy cold and "flu and just stop for ever :P

                                                                 
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Re: Stopping smoking: when?
« Reply #259 on: August 16, 2013, 10:18:22 am »
That's interesting (what you say about pipe smoking). I'm trying to get my son to stop (he has damaged lungs). He won't try vaping, says it isn't the same.

He's into his 'cool'; I can see him getting into pipe smoking.
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Re: Stopping smoking: when?
« Reply #260 on: August 17, 2013, 12:13:55 am »
E-Pipe perhaps and vape that?  Just tempt him with the 1000s of flavours he can play with in there :thumbsup:

Re: Stopping smoking: when?
« Reply #261 on: August 17, 2013, 04:02:13 am »
I think people should try real tobacco smoking  not imitation stuff. The hardest part is making the change from the fags to the pipe which I achieved over 6 months or more. Gradually I found the pipe more enjoyable and the weeds were sent packing :thumbsup:

I never had any plans to stop the pipe smoking, it is enjoyable, tastes nice, very relaxing and may even help one to live longer.
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Re: Stopping smoking: when?
« Reply #262 on: August 17, 2013, 01:49:11 pm »
As non smoker, I don't understand how you dont' inhale when pipe smoking - how does that work?
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Re: Stopping smoking: when?
« Reply #263 on: August 17, 2013, 04:04:27 pm »
As non smoker, I don't understand how you dont' inhale when pipe smoking - how does that work?

When smoking I smoked a pipe as well as fags, but did not get enough of a kick from the pipe so inhaled that as well.

Nearly 40 years out of that game.

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Re: Stopping smoking: when?
« Reply #264 on: August 17, 2013, 05:13:32 pm »
Pipe smoking for me was all about the taste. I made sure I didn't inhale and probably this helped me to kick the habit. The most important point for me was that I succeeded. I just hope my story will help others to stop also. When my father was diagnosed with chest cancer I  asked my big Sister to fly from the USA where she lives and help me in discussions with the Doctors. We were informed the cancer was pretty severe and they insisted on giving him chemotherapy, instead, we requested pain killers for him and to let him die naturally - the Doctors refused. When he returned after that horrible treatment, his hair had fallen out and his face no longer looked like our dear old dad. He died very soon afterwards. 
Since then I have also lost another good friend to chest cancer. His poison  was to smoke less than 20 Marlborough per day.

I hope my story helps
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Re: Stopping smoking: when?
« Reply #265 on: August 19, 2013, 03:57:28 pm »
I never had any plans to stop the pipe smoking, it is enjoyable, tastes nice, very relaxing and may even help one to live longer.

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Re: Stopping smoking: when?
« Reply #266 on: August 19, 2013, 04:52:51 pm »
Try reading my Thread again to understand it properly ::-)
Try also, your favourite googling because it is a  known fact except by you apparently. But then your Googling conclusions are often quite wrong  including certain well known facts about how badly Thais treat elephants especially - total garbage as usual.

Also, You posted at 15.37 hours which suggests during your Office hours when most people are supposed to be working?
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Re: Stopping smoking: when?
« Reply #267 on: August 20, 2013, 08:43:26 am »
I forgot to mark it but on 9 August I passed the milestone of a year smoke free.
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Re: Stopping smoking: when?
« Reply #268 on: August 20, 2013, 08:48:10 am »
I assumed that marbeaux meant that not inhaling isn't as bad as inhaling, and since he enjoyed the pipe smoking, he was able to give up the (more evil) ciggies.

It's something that possibly could help my son, since he seems to be incapable of stopping smoking (despite having serious health reasons for doing so).
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Re: Stopping smoking: when?
« Reply #269 on: August 20, 2013, 09:05:02 am »
Congratulations Reg! Well done.  :)
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Re: Stopping smoking: when?
« Reply #270 on: August 20, 2013, 10:25:01 am »
I assumed that marbeaux meant that not inhaling isn't as bad as inhaling, and since he enjoyed the pipe smoking, he was able to give up the (more evil) ciggies.

It's something that possibly could help my son, since he seems to be incapable of stopping smoking (despite having serious health reasons for doing so).

There is evidence of a significant increase in risk of oral cancers in pipe smokers.

I try not to be one of those obnoxious rabid anti-smokers, but giving up really is the only option to decrease risk of adverse effects.
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Re: Stopping smoking: when?
« Reply #271 on: August 20, 2013, 06:59:52 pm »
It is accepted that there may be some oral risk in pipe smoking but in my lifetime of knowing some committed pipe smokers, I have never heard of any one of them getting oral cancer. My B.I.L now over 85 years has more trouble with his eyes, my Uncle didn't die of oral cancer but also had a problem with his vision. I don't think pipe smoking causes vision problems? and have never seen any such reports.
Smoking a pipe of your favourite tobacco is indeed very enjoyable and relaxing especially if you ever feel stressed for some reason. If one can stop using the weeds, there is still the risk of breathing problems later on and possibly a cancer free ending.
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Re: Stopping smoking: when?
« Reply #272 on: August 20, 2013, 07:16:17 pm »
It is accepted that there may be some oral risk in pipe smoking but in my lifetime of knowing some committed pipe smokers, I have never heard of any one of them getting oral cancer. My B.I.L now over 85 years has more trouble with his eyes, my Uncle didn't die of oral cancer but also had a problem with his vision. I don't think pipe smoking causes vision problems? and have never seen any such reports.
Smoking a pipe of your favourite tobacco is indeed very enjoyable and relaxing especially if you ever feel stressed for some reason. If one can stop using the weeds, there is still the risk of breathing problems later on and possibly a cancer free ending.
Nothing in life is sure but you can, at least,  limit the risks a little.           

You do come out with some shit at times.
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Re: Stopping smoking: when?
« Reply #273 on: August 20, 2013, 07:54:48 pm »
Well done Regulator, on completing a year!

I'm not doing too bad, though it's fair to say I do get more urges to grab a cig than I'd like at this point. Reassuringly, the few occasions when I've "slipped" have not been enjoyable.

Thanks for the thoughts, Marbeaux, but the pipe not a route I intend to go down for various reasons right now, mainly because I need to get away from the whole business of smoking anything


Re: Stopping smoking: when?
« Reply #274 on: August 20, 2013, 07:56:50 pm »
It is accepted that there may be some oral risk in pipe smoking but in my lifetime of knowing some committed pipe smokers, I have never heard of any one of them getting oral cancer. My B.I.L now over 85 years has more trouble with his eyes, my Uncle didn't die of oral cancer but also had a problem with his vision. I don't think pipe smoking causes vision problems? and have never seen any such reports.
Smoking a pipe of your favourite tobacco is indeed very enjoyable and relaxing especially if you ever feel stressed for some reason. If one can stop using the weeds, there is still the risk of breathing problems later on and possibly a cancer free ending.
Nothing in life is sure but you can, at least,  limit the risks a little.           

You do come out with some shit at times.
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Well done Greg (as a giver-upper-and-not-had-one-since, myself - well, I have. But I hated myself for it)

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Reassuringly, the few occasions when I've "slipped" have not been enjoyable.

Nowt other than good news, that.