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Re: Music that reduces you to a blubbering wreck
« Reply #50 on: February 06, 2012, 06:43:37 pm »
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Re: Music that reduces you to a blubbering wreck
« Reply #51 on: February 06, 2012, 06:52:21 pm »
... Actually, a lot of Vaughn Williams. It's something about the soaring high notes, that makes me think of being on top of an English hill, lying on close cropped grass, in the sun, but with that particular chill wind you often get.

Oh, I'm off now....

There's something about English music from the Edwardian Era that, to me, is the sound of an idyll that should have been.

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Re: Music that reduces you to a blubbering wreck
« Reply #52 on: February 06, 2012, 10:20:37 pm »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/EM8RlCZP0KQ&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/EM8RlCZP0KQ&rel=1</a>

Can't do without this. Such a masterpiece. Of all the music I've ever listened to, I don't think any composer has succeeded with the concept of "implied melody" the way Ludwig has here. The bit where the soaring strings are doing there stuff, starting around 4'22" in this recording, no instrument is actually playing the tune. It's going on in the listener's head whilst the orchestra provides a backing.

Absolutely stunning in every way.
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Re: Music that reduces you to a blubbering wreck
« Reply #53 on: February 06, 2012, 11:16:01 pm »
^^^
Marvellous, of course, but it makes me want to jump for joy at what can be achieved!

Re: Music that reduces you to a blubbering wreck
« Reply #54 on: February 06, 2012, 11:21:06 pm »
I think D minor is the saddest of all the keys, it makes people weep instantly.

Re: Music that reduces you to a blubbering wreck
« Reply #55 on: February 06, 2012, 11:23:40 pm »
Sometimes it's just the way you play them! 

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Re: Music that reduces you to a blubbering wreck
« Reply #56 on: February 06, 2012, 11:37:04 pm »
A lot of Genesis at the moment. Guide Vocal, Supper's Ready, Ripples, Undertow. . .

Some Floyd, too. Tigers, Fletcher Memorial, Comfortably Numb and On The Turning Away. Wow!

Stuff that reminds me of Dad. Sibelius, Elgar,  the sort of stuff Henry Kelly plays

One of the best reasons for listening to Chris Evans. Generally commercial radio is unadulterated shite! Chris Evans has made a living out of having the attention span of a concussed amoeba but luckily knows fuck all about music so he's not likely to play anything that's going to unbalance me on the way to work or cause any potential embarassment in traffic.
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Re: Music that reduces you to a blubbering wreck
« Reply #57 on: February 06, 2012, 11:43:48 pm »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eo7qT99zTEE&feature=related

That bass line still gives me nightmares.  A couple of pints at least were required to get anywhere near it.

Re: Music that reduces you to a blubbering wreck
« Reply #58 on: February 07, 2012, 11:13:56 am »
There are two strands to my thinking about this thread.

One is the sonic quality of the music itself. It's a combination of  beauty and effectiveness, which can happen in any musical genre. The key plays a part too.

The other one is about songs. Any song can have a deep meaning for us when we connect it with significant events. When a song is written about specific events or topics it can have very strong meaning for those who feel a connection.  Two of my examples are A Place Called England (june Tabor) ad Los Gatos Canyon (Woody Guthrie), both political songs. The first moves me to anger, because it makes me realise that things could be better, the second to tears, because  it deals with the outcome of casual disregard for migrant labourers.

 

Re: Music that reduces you to a blubbering wreck
« Reply #59 on: February 07, 2012, 11:38:32 am »
There's another stand as well. It's possible to construct a tearjerker from the right components, which is what professional songwriters and arrangers do. I'd put 'The Folks Who Live On The Hill' in that camp, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/nu-z8mJKzs4&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/nu-z8mJKzs4&rel=1</a> everthing about it is designed to tug at the heart strings, it's got the musical and lyrical cues in the right order. It's difficult to succumb to those cues and not resent the blatant manipulation.
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Re: Music that reduces you to a blubbering wreck
« Reply #60 on: February 07, 2012, 01:24:07 pm »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/EM8RlCZP0KQ&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/EM8RlCZP0KQ&rel=1</a>

Can't do without this. Such a masterpiece. Of all the music I've ever listened to, I don't think any composer has succeeded with the concept of "implied melody" the way Ludwig has here. The bit where the soaring strings are doing there stuff, starting around 4'22" in this recording, no instrument is actually playing the tune. It's going on in the listener's head whilst the orchestra provides a backing.

Absolutely stunning in every way.

That is an amazing piece of music indeed, but it's one that makes my heart soar rather than reducing me to a blubbering wreck!  :)



Re: Music that reduces you to a blubbering wreck
« Reply #61 on: February 07, 2012, 01:25:12 pm »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/eo7qT99zTEE&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/eo7qT99zTEE&rel=1</a>

That bass line still gives me nightmares.  A couple of pints at least were required to get anywhere near it.

To be fair, the high soprano does the same to me...though I couldn't have done it on a couple of pints (burp)!   :o



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Re: Music that reduces you to a blubbering wreck
« Reply #62 on: February 07, 2012, 03:41:29 pm »
I think D minor is the saddest of all the keys, it makes people weep instantly.

:-)

Especially when the melody is just simple lines intertwining (see: Mozart/Bach pieces)

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Re: Music that reduces you to a blubbering wreck
« Reply #63 on: February 07, 2012, 04:44:26 pm »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/xuu-GACWPTE&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/xuu-GACWPTE&rel=1</a>

That a remarkable performance. I thought I detected a couple of pronunciation errors (the bass solo seemed to miss the 'n' out of "sanfte" at one point, and the tenor seemed to be singing "laufen" rather than "laufet" a couple of times. However, it's rare to hear a performance that's so clear.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/EM8RlCZP0KQ&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/EM8RlCZP0KQ&rel=1</a>

Can't do without this. Such a masterpiece. Of all the music I've ever listened to, I don't think any composer has succeeded with the concept of "implied melody" the way Ludwig has here. The bit where the soaring strings are doing there stuff, starting around 4'22" in this recording, no instrument is actually playing the tune. It's going on in the listener's head whilst the orchestra provides a backing.

Absolutely stunning in every way.

That is an amazing piece of music indeed, but it's one that makes my heart soar rather than reducing me to a blubbering wreck!  :)

It makes my heart soar too. It doesn't stop me form being a blubbering wreck occasionally, at the same time!
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Re: Music that reduces you to a blubbering wreck
« Reply #64 on: February 07, 2012, 04:47:22 pm »
I think D minor is the saddest of all the keys, it makes people weep instantly.

Nah. C# minor's the one.
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Re: Music that reduces you to a blubbering wreck
« Reply #65 on: February 07, 2012, 05:21:43 pm »
Chopin's Funeral March (Sonata in B flat minor, 2nd movement) is a pretty miserable dirge, although there's a gorgeous section in a major key in the middle of it.

Beethoven wrote two symphonic funeral marches, C minor for the second movement of the Eroica and A minor for the 7th symphony. Mind you, I always think of that A minor piece as very light-hearted (it's the one that's all on one note).
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The Eroica one is terribly solemn and at one point, towards the end of it, there's a single drum beat with no other instrument playing. I always think of that as the musical depiction of a sod of earth landing on a coffin.  ;D  I can't find a Youtube clip of it which includes the whole movement at the moment: everything I've found has been truncated.
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Re: Music that reduces you to a blubbering wreck
« Reply #66 on: February 07, 2012, 08:19:19 pm »
Im Abendrot (At Sunset) from Strauss's "Vier Letzte Lieder". Wriiten when he was 84 in 1948, he died the same year.
I particularly like the Gundula Janowitz / Herbert von Karajan version here. The glistening sound of the Berlin strings which sometimes I don't like are perfect for this piece.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/b4KTMzUL3W0&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/b4KTMzUL3W0&rel=1</a>
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

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Re: Music that reduces you to a blubbering wreck
« Reply #67 on: February 11, 2012, 06:43:01 pm »
"See The Farmer Sow His Seed" as featured in the closing credits of King Street Junior.

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Re: Music that reduces you to a blubbering wreck
« Reply #68 on: February 11, 2012, 09:39:10 pm »
Beethoven's Appasionata does it for me.  But there's a couple of others:

Lee Aaron - barely holding on:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/I6d5EzBA2pU&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/I6d5EzBA2pU&rel=1</a>

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Re: Music that reduces you to a blubbering wreck
« Reply #69 on: February 11, 2012, 09:44:04 pm »
Bach BWV 82 "Ich habe genug"

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Andreas Scholl has just released a new album of "Ich habe genug" (so that's countertenor) but, vast Scholl fan that I am, I think I prefer the Peter Kooij version.

Saw Scholl singing it live at the Barbican last Friday.
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Re: Music that reduces you to a blubbering wreck
« Reply #70 on: February 12, 2012, 08:26:25 pm »
This brings a tear to the eye and snot to the nose:

http://youtu.be/89jPaJWLHTs
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Re: Music that reduces you to a blubbering wreck
« Reply #71 on: February 13, 2012, 06:33:06 am »
Lost in the moment by Edie Bricknell

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/QKxIMK8fFAk&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/QKxIMK8fFAk&rel=1</a>

A sad but all too common story, simply told. The images in the final verse always get me.
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Re: Music that reduces you to a blubbering wreck
« Reply #72 on: February 13, 2012, 07:49:34 am »
Going back to the more situational/connotational songs that make me weep each time I hear them, because I remember...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EUifVn-TC4



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Re: Music that reduces you to a blubbering wreck
« Reply #73 on: February 18, 2012, 11:08:18 am »
I was listening, as I tend to, R3's "Breakfast" broadcast with this morning's presenter, Clemency Burton-Hill. Every day for the past few weeks they have played a special request from a member of the public, with whom they have a chat just before playing it. This week, because it's been half-term, they have been trying to get school kids to phone in. This morning it was the turn of Emily, 9-year-old girl from London who has been learning the 'cello.

She requested this:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUgdbqt2ON0

CBH asked Emily if she know who the conductor was, and Emily didn't.

Although I wasn't reduced to a blubbering wreck by this, it did lead, as it always does when I hear du Pré play, to a thoughtful moment. I was privileged enough to see her live at the Festival Hall in the early 1960s at one of the Robert Mayer children's concerts. She must have been about 16 at the time. I was about 7.
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Re: Music that reduces you to a blubbering wreck
« Reply #74 on: February 18, 2012, 02:13:01 pm »
Bach BWV 82 "Ich habe genug"

Andreas Scholl has just released a new album of "Ich habe genug" (so that's countertenor) but, vast Scholl fan that I am, I think I prefer the Peter Kooij version.

Saw Scholl singing it live at the Barbican last Friday.

Lorraine Hunt Lieberson is my favourite for this.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.