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Re: Fully Loaded - Touring Bikes
« Reply #675 on: September 09, 2018, 08:03:32 pm »
Here's my bike a couple of weeks back, shortcutting crappy weather by taking the train. "Fully" loaded for four nights away at B&B / YHAs.



Re: Fully Loaded - Touring Bikes
« Reply #676 on: September 09, 2018, 08:34:18 pm »
I shall add to this thread next weekend...
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Re: Fully Loaded - Touring Bikes
« Reply #677 on: September 09, 2018, 08:45:55 pm »

Cotic Escapade (lightly) loaded on my way to Bicester a couple of weeks ago.

Re: Fully Loaded - Touring Bikes
« Reply #678 on: September 11, 2018, 10:02:02 pm »
Here's one from little Joe and me on a recent tour around Lincolnshire.  Not my usual touring bike, this is normally my knocking around town bike, however when the lad asked if he could tour on his own bike rather than on the tandem it was pressed into touring service.  Not lightweight by any means, there's a cricket bat and stumps in there.
Little Joe did really well, 31 miles on our longest day and still full of energy.
IMG_20180830_125041319 by Joe B, on Flickr

Re: Fully Loaded - Touring Bikes
« Reply #679 on: September 15, 2018, 08:30:51 pm »
Never tell me the odds.

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Re: Fully Loaded - Touring Bikes
« Reply #680 on: September 17, 2018, 03:47:19 pm »
Hmmm, I was making myself unpopular at the weekend berating fellow ACME goes Dutch riders about not doing up Ortlieb Back and Front Roller panniers correctly.  Yes, I know I am being horribly pedantic and I am behaving twattishly but it bothers me more than it ought.

NB Fred's rear panniers done up correctly.  Double NB, his front panniers are the City model, different from Front Rollers but also done up correctly...

https://flic.kr/p/YQfnG8

Kim

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Re: Fully Loaded - Touring Bikes
« Reply #681 on: September 17, 2018, 05:25:29 pm »
This is a bugbear of mine:  Using the shoulder strap to close your Front/Back-rollers means you end up carrying and faffing about with four shoulder straps, where you're only likely to carry one or zero bags on your shoulder at any point on the trip.

As such the City-Roller closure, with fixed sockets for the buckles to neatly clip into on the side of the bag, and D-rings for attaching a shoulder strap is a superior design.  Unfortunately, the City-Rollers don't have the useful internal pockets of the Front/Back-Rollers.

Front/Back-Rollers can be closed by connecting the ends of the closure together in the drybag style, but this compromises the waterproofing if the bag is lightly loaded.  Alternatively, you can leave the ends dangling in the breeze, which is fugly.
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Re: Fully Loaded - Touring Bikes
« Reply #682 on: September 17, 2018, 08:31:01 pm »
Only on yacf  ;D
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Re: Fully Loaded - Touring Bikes
« Reply #683 on: September 17, 2018, 09:47:26 pm »
This is a bugbear of mine:  Using the shoulder strap to close your Front/Back-rollers means you end up carrying and faffing about with four shoulder straps, where you're only likely to carry one or zero bags on your shoulder at any point on the trip.


If cycle camping I would agree but if YHAs or B&Bs then it probable that I will be carrying four panniers to a room, at which point my Back Rollers go one on each shoulder and the super C fronts get carried in one hand while the saddle bag is in the other.

Kim

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Re: Fully Loaded - Touring Bikes
« Reply #684 on: September 17, 2018, 10:04:44 pm »
This is a bugbear of mine:  Using the shoulder strap to close your Front/Back-rollers means you end up carrying and faffing about with four shoulder straps, where you're only likely to carry one or zero bags on your shoulder at any point on the trip.


If cycle camping I would agree but if YHAs or B&Bs then it probable that I will be carrying four panniers to a room, at which point my Back Rollers go one on each shoulder and the super C fronts get carried in one hand while the saddle bag is in the other.

When I've done that, my Front Rollers (which are the heavy ones, because recumbent) go in one hand, and my Back Rollers go in the other.  If I'm using the overspill dry bag too, it has a strap that works for shouldering.
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Re: Fully Loaded - Touring Bikes
« Reply #685 on: September 18, 2018, 01:06:27 pm »
This is a bugbear of mine:  Using the shoulder strap to close your Front/Back-rollers means you end up carrying and faffing about with four shoulder straps, where you're only likely to carry one or zero bags on your shoulder at any point on the trip.


If cycle camping I would agree but if YHAs or B&Bs then it probable that I will be carrying four panniers to a room, at which point my Back Rollers go one on each shoulder and the super C fronts get carried in one hand while the saddle bag is in the other.

Agreed, the shoulder straps are very useful for carrying your panniers off the bike.  And they allow the panniers to be PROPERLY closed thus rendering them very waterproof to the point where I never bother wrapping stuff in plastic bags as the panniers won't leak - ever.

Only on yacf  ;D

It's one of the may reasons I love this place  :thumbsup:

Kim

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Re: Fully Loaded - Touring Bikes
« Reply #686 on: September 18, 2018, 02:14:18 pm »
Agreed, the shoulder straps are very useful for carrying your panniers off the bike.  And they allow the panniers to be PROPERLY closed thus rendering them very waterproof to the point where I never bother wrapping stuff in plastic bags as the panniers won't leak - ever.

Plastic bags aren't for the panniers leaking, they're for organising stuff, not having to bring dirty panniers into your tent and - where applicable - preventing the stuff from leaking on other stuff.

I keep my gadgets, wires, medication, wash things, clean clothes, food etc in dry-bags and not-quite-dry-bags[1], but my down sleeping bag goes straight into a Back-Roller with just its non-waterproof stuff sack for protection.  It's never got wet.  I put dry clothing in a dry-bag to share a pannier with dirty clothing and/or a wet tent and seat cover.

As for shoulder straps, if you want to use them for carrying the bag on your shoulder, the best place for them to be while riding along is inside the bag where they won't get wet or covered in dust.  That (along with having to re-adjust the length) is why I don't like the Ortlieb approach of using them to close the bag, or for that matter the Radical/Brompton approach of not having the strap on detachable buckles/hooks.

Of course, sometimes the shoulder strap is the only way to waterproofly close a lightly-loaded Front/Back-Roller, and therefore necessary.


[1] Alpkit Apollo: Silicone cordura with un-taped seams and a drawstring closure in a variety of sizes and bright colours.  Great for organising your things, and it'll *mostly* contain a shampoo leak.
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Re: Fully Loaded - Touring Bikes
« Reply #687 on: September 18, 2018, 02:28:50 pm »
Yes sure, I use separate bags for organisational purposes.  I have also got the additional external pockets on my Back Rollers which are handy for putting stuff which might leak in.

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« Reply #688 on: September 18, 2018, 03:18:34 pm »
I've moved away from having separate bags-within-panniers for organisation, because I find it takes up more room. It's easier to fit everything in when individual items can tessellate and squash into spaces rather than having things in big lumps.
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Re: Fully Loaded - Touring Bikes
« Reply #689 on: September 18, 2018, 03:52:57 pm »
Word of the day: tessellate  :thumbsup:

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« Reply #690 on: September 18, 2018, 03:54:48 pm »
I've moved away from having separate bags-within-panniers for organisation, because I find it takes up more room. It's easier to fit everything in when individual items can tessellate and squash into spaces rather than having things in big lumps.

Vertical rolling in CISCO GBIC large heavy duty ziplock bags is the way to go, everything pushes in vertically

Re: Fully Loaded - Touring Bikes
« Reply #691 on: September 21, 2018, 03:12:45 pm »
I have also got the additional external pockets on my Back Rollers which are handy for putting stuff which might leak in.

I see you have to pierce the main pannier in order to fit these. Does that not create a leakpath into the bag?

And more importantly, why can't I find them in green to match the pannier?!
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Kim

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Re: Fully Loaded - Touring Bikes
« Reply #692 on: September 21, 2018, 03:21:16 pm »
I have also got the additional external pockets on my Back Rollers which are handy for putting stuff which might leak in.

I see you have to pierce the main pannier in order to fit these. Does that not create a leakpath into the bag?

About the same as the rack fixings do.
To ride the Windcheetah, first, you must embrace the cantilever...

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Re: Fully Loaded - Touring Bikes
« Reply #693 on: September 21, 2018, 03:29:03 pm »
I have also got the additional external pockets on my Back Rollers which are handy for putting stuff which might leak in.

I see you have to pierce the main pannier in order to fit these. Does that not create a leakpath into the bag?

About the same as the rack fixings do.

Leaks haven't been a problem. 

Re: Fully Loaded - Touring Bikes
« Reply #694 on: September 23, 2018, 08:29:43 pm »

No shoulder straps on the way back from Uffington. I have a feeling the Super Cs might have originally come with shoulder straps, I know I have various Carradice shoulder straps, but I've never had a use for them on any bike luggage other than bar bags, and only occasionally then.
The earth is vast and beautiful and contains many miraculous places. (Chekhov)

Kim

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Re: Fully Loaded - Touring Bikes
« Reply #695 on: September 23, 2018, 08:31:17 pm »
I donated a couple of my Carradice shoulder straps (which came with various racktop bags) to the owner of a set of Ortlieb City-Rollers.
To ride the Windcheetah, first, you must embrace the cantilever...

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Re: Fully Loaded - Touring Bikes
« Reply #696 on: October 02, 2018, 06:18:15 pm »
Not exactly fully loaded, but this was the bike set up that got me from Carlisle to Thurso last week :)
Cumbria to Caithness by Marcus Coupe, on Flickr
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« Reply #697 on: October 02, 2018, 06:23:29 pm »
Nicely balanced.  :thumbsup: Is "Slochd" the name of a hill or a description of how you felt on reaching the summit?  :D
The earth is vast and beautiful and contains many miraculous places. (Chekhov)

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Re: Fully Loaded - Touring Bikes
« Reply #698 on: October 02, 2018, 09:14:13 pm »
It's the hill name. I was actually feeling pretty happy at that point though as after having climbed the Strone, Tom Dubh, The Lecht and the Tomintoul to Grantown-on-Spey pass before climbing that one, it was almost entirely downhill to the travelodge in Inverness from there :)
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