Author Topic: Pronunciation that makes you cringe  (Read 51009 times)

FifeingEejit

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #525 on: March 07, 2019, 11:01:37 pm »
Hum. Someone from the Beeb's pronunciation unit once said in an interview that if newsreaders had pronounced Khrushchev properly nobody would have recognized it.

Murray Walker offered the same excuse when picked up on his pronunciation of Ayrton Senna by the man himself - ie it's not that he didn't know the correct pronunciation, just that the viewing audience would have balked at it.
I remember the variability in commentary from muddly on that front, the story I read was that Ayrton asked him why he'd changed from saying it right to saying it wrong.

Correct pronunciation is Aye-aeton iirc




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FifeingEejit

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #526 on: March 07, 2019, 11:05:59 pm »
It's time to go Bach to basics.
I think my campaign to dispose SSE adoptions of Scots words of the imposter z is doomed to failure, it took me ages to find the yough in character map.

And I've still not found out how Shetland swapped a yough (Hjatland to Zetland*) for a sh.

*im on my phone there's no yough symbol at all...

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #527 on: March 07, 2019, 11:20:25 pm »
It's time to go Bach to basics.
I think my campaign to dispose SSE adoptions of Scots words of the imposter z is doomed to failure, it took me ages to find the yough in character map.

And I've still not found out how Shetland swapped a yough (Hjatland to Zetland*) for a sh.

*im on my phone there's no yough symbol at all...

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Maybe it evolved via/like the Swedish 'sj'

FifeingEejit

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #528 on: March 07, 2019, 11:39:19 pm »
It's time to go Bach to basics.
I think my campaign to dispose SSE adoptions of Scots words of the imposter z is doomed to failure, it took me ages to find the yough in character map.

And I've still not found out how Shetland swapped a yough (Hjatland to Zetland*) for a sh.

*im on my phone there's no yough symbol at all...

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Maybe it evolved via/like the Swedish 'sj'
Hm, seems Zetland was named Zetland in 1931 as the common corruption of yetland,  (where I've substituted a y for a yough) but for the 1970s reorganisation everything else was Sh, but that's all I've found.

Can't think of any examples where the yough corruption has gone to anything other than a zed or a stop,
Stop: Menzies,
Zed: lenzie, Edzell, macenzie

The yough should be  like in Göteborg

Sh is a common corruption of Th in East central Scotland, e.G.  Fifers count wan, too, shree

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #529 on: March 07, 2019, 11:48:39 pm »
There is a Zetland Road in Bristol. I think it was built around 1900, maybe a bit earlier. Pronounced as spelled. That is all I have to say for now.
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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #530 on: March 08, 2019, 01:28:23 pm »
It's time to go Bach to basics.

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #531 on: March 08, 2019, 04:17:45 pm »
There's a Zetland Road besides Doncaster Royal Infirmary.

I worked in Shetland 30 years ago and can't remember anyone pronouncing 'Shetland' differently. I liked the dialect.

ZE postcodes were memorable.