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Re: Ketogenic diet - fad or phenom?
« Reply #1150 on: March 10, 2020, 01:05:07 am »


I have not 'shit' over anything as you put it. Upon Perusing this Thread I saw that people were Increasing their CHO intake Beyond what is acceptable for Keto and made a comment. If you Cannot take that - than tough.

And I did rebut your post. Me having the odd bit of Vegan junk food is not the same as yourself upping your CHO intake beyond what is acceptable if you are on the Keto lifestyle. If I cheated by consuming some animal products then by all means you can say it is the same thing.

What on earth are you on about? Having an icecream or a piece of bread is not increasing the cholesterol beyond what's acceptable.  Cholesterol levels only factor in if you fail to eat a balanced diet and have nothing to do with 'cheat' days.

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Re: Ketogenic diet - fad or phenom?
« Reply #1151 on: March 10, 2020, 09:29:47 am »
CHO is carbohydrate.

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Re: Ketogenic diet - fad or phenom?
« Reply #1152 on: March 10, 2020, 09:46:43 am »
I think the issue with diets is that they are diets and, as such, follow a schema of proscriptions, and we introduce the concept of 'cheating' and then there are cycles of guilt and recrimination for breaking those proscriptions. It's a fundamentally toxic approach to eating and weirds our relationship with food. Most diets ultimately fail.
What about cutting out nuts?

I don't think avoiding a product that you're allergic to is a diet. It becomes odd, of course, when you start proscribing things for peculiar reasons.
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Re: Ketogenic diet - fad or phenom?
« Reply #1153 on: March 10, 2020, 10:55:53 am »


I have not 'shit' over anything as you put it. Upon Perusing this Thread I saw that people were Increasing their CHO intake Beyond what is acceptable for Keto and made a comment. If you Cannot take that - than tough.

And I did rebut your post. Me having the odd bit of Vegan junk food is not the same as yourself upping your CHO intake beyond what is acceptable if you are on the Keto lifestyle. If I cheated by consuming some animal products then by all means you can say it is the same thing.

What on earth are you on about? Having an icecream or a piece of bread is not increasing the cholesterol beyond what's acceptable.  Cholesterol levels only factor in if you fail to eat a balanced diet and have nothing to do with 'cheat' days.

I refer the above to the Guardian link on brain fog and keto. ;D

Re: Ketogenic diet - fad or phenom?
« Reply #1154 on: March 10, 2020, 07:45:25 pm »
Apologies. I've seen it used for cholesterol..but again...there's no fundamentalism involved, so occasionally going over your carb budget is still not going to break your diet. You've now heard it from several people who are actually successfully doing it and would you please stop telling us how to live our lifes?.

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Re: Ketogenic diet - fad or phenom?
« Reply #1155 on: March 10, 2020, 08:21:08 pm »
I think the issue with diets is that they are diets and, as such, follow a schema of proscriptions, and we introduce the concept of 'cheating' and then there are cycles of guilt and recrimination for breaking those proscriptions. It's a fundamentally toxic approach to eating and weirds our relationship with food. Most diets ultimately fail.
What about cutting out nuts?

I don't think avoiding a product that you're allergic to is a diet. It becomes odd, of course, when you start proscribing things for peculiar reasons.
Maybe that's just how you view it? There seem to be people here proscribing things because they will be healthier and happier.

Nuts is a bit extreme, cos (despite being  totally yummy, and VERY nutritious) they can kill people! They were the first thing I thought of. But there are intolerances, where people KNOW certain foods are bad for them, but occasionally succumb to a treat portion ... which is very similar to what you are criticising. I think.
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