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Re: Ketogenic diet - fad or phenom?
« Reply #1075 on: September 30, 2019, 11:40:03 pm »
Day 1 and the sugar cravings are real.(Now late afternoon) Got hard boiled + pepperoni as failsafes, which I may have to activate.
Snack time at work at 4pm, so aiming to hold out until then.

Dinner/lunch was good. Buttery scrambled eggs for breakfast may take some getting used to, but I also *just* managed to brown the butter a little bit which didn't help.
 Hardest thing today was convincing the coffee shot, that I did not need my usual breakfast sandwich.

Re: Ketogenic diet - fad or phenom?
« Reply #1076 on: October 03, 2019, 04:06:58 am »
Sugar cravings are better, even managed to ignore the donuts that our dept coordinator bought today.
Also was able to skip afternoon snack.  Tomorrow I have my first kendo practice since starting, so that will be interesting..however, I'm able to stop at any point.
One noticeable difference is no real post-lunch slump.

The Dietdoctor recipes are really good. Easy to make and quite simple. Their time estimates are based on having everything laid out and ready, though :).
2kgs down, but that's just water, I assume.

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Re: Ketogenic diet - fad or phenom?
« Reply #1077 on: October 03, 2019, 06:13:24 am »
I dropped something like 6kg in the first month, then it went much steadier.

I’m now at about 1kg per month but not tracking food and eating a few more carbs, plus having probably one cheat event a week (slice of cake, restaurant meal with carb).

Well done Jakob, you will soon really feel the benefits.

Oh, yesterday I took a load of clothes to the clothing bin as they were two sizes too big. I hope I won’t be needing that size again!
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Re: Ketogenic diet - fad or phenom?
« Reply #1078 on: October 04, 2019, 07:59:04 am »
Totally different at kendo practice today. I can't recall having been able to maintain focus so well before...at least not in recent years. Stamina seemed ok. Hard to tell, as I haven't practiced that regularly recently due to work. It'll be interesting to see how I recover.

Re: Ketogenic diet - fad or phenom?
« Reply #1079 on: October 12, 2019, 06:13:21 am »
What do you do for events? I got a tournament coming up on the 2nd.
Since it's in Seattle and I'll be driving down the day before, staying low carb is going to be mighty difficult. Any side effects from eating carbs again for a couple of days?

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Re: Ketogenic diet - fad or phenom?
« Reply #1080 on: October 12, 2019, 07:19:41 am »
Yes, you feel really bloated, tired and do enormous poops after a couple of days, then pee constantly when going back to Keto.
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Re: Ketogenic diet - fad or phenom?
« Reply #1081 on: October 12, 2019, 10:13:08 pm »
Yeah, that's what I was afraid of. 
 I can bring a big lunch for the drive down and find a restaurant that I can work with for dinner.
(Breakfast is easy)
I will need carbs on the day of. I don't think I can recover fast enough without it, but can probably get that from energy/soft drinks.
I think I need to pack lunch for two days. Hotel will have a fridge.

Re: Ketogenic diet - fad or phenom?
« Reply #1082 on: October 18, 2019, 09:04:33 am »
Still run out of gas very quickly.
Some readings suggest that this is normal and should bounce back. I will add some sodium tablets to help as well.
Some further reading also says that high intensity exercise can benefit from easy digestible carbs, like dextrose, glucose (and avoid fructose).
On that list is gummy bears. I love gummy bears. I will use the tournament as an excuse to eat gummy bears...and get some sugar.

Been improving a bit on the meals and while I'm pretty sure I'm below 20g of carbs, I may not be getting enough fat...and probably eating more than I should. I probably need to revert to stricter portion control.

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Re: Ketogenic diet - fad or phenom?
« Reply #1083 on: October 18, 2019, 02:50:00 pm »
Dextrose is just another name for glucose.

Ordinary sugar is sucrose; this is a dimer of glucose and fructose so it breaks down to a 50/50 mix in the body.
Maltose is a dimer of two molecules of glucose.
Lactose is glucose + galactose.

Starch breaks down to glucose. Some refined starches do this very quickly, especially if not mixed with fat and have a high glycaemic index. White rice an example.

Re: Ketogenic diet - fad or phenom?
« Reply #1084 on: October 27, 2019, 09:25:19 pm »
4 weeks today, 7.3kgs down. Clothes definitely hanging looser and I'll need to punch a new hole in my belt soon.
Celebrated with a croissant today and while it was nice, it definitely wasn't as satisfying as it used to be. (ie, I can easily go another month before the next one).

Auntie Helen

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Re: Ketogenic diet - fad or phenom?
« Reply #1085 on: October 28, 2019, 06:02:58 am »
Well done Jakob!

Although I enjoy cheats from Keto when on holiday (such as now, had a Chinese with rice last night), I am always happy to return to Keto ways again as I feel so much better on it.
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Re: Ketogenic diet - fad or phenom?
« Reply #1086 on: November 07, 2019, 01:49:28 am »
Weight loss has slowed down, but waist is shrinking!. My favourite trousers are now decidedly too baggy.
Working crazy overtime, but can't wait to hit the gym again and put a bit of muscle on again. (That you may actually be able to see this time).

Re: Ketogenic diet - fad or phenom?
« Reply #1087 on: November 13, 2019, 12:35:04 am »
So, one negative aspect is that I will soon need to spend money on replacing my wardrobe. My favourite trousers are now decidedly too baggy and the rest are stating to lo look too loose as well.
Mind you, I'm not complaining :D.
(Although replacing my motorcycle jeans will hurt....they're rather expensive).

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Re: Ketogenic diet - fad or phenom?
« Reply #1088 on: November 13, 2019, 08:37:56 am »
Yes, looking in my cupboard the other day and found a brand new pair of 38" trousers with tags still on.
The ones I had on yesterday were 32".

Re: Ketogenic diet - fad or phenom?
« Reply #1089 on: December 02, 2019, 06:09:01 pm »
Broke through the 10kg mark today, after being 'stalled' at 9.x for a couple of weeks. Only 0.5 from my initial goal ( 90kgs), with 85kgs being the target...however, I think 80kgs is obtainable.  Body fat says 26%, would love to see that down to less than 20%.

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Re: Ketogenic diet - fad or phenom?
« Reply #1090 on: December 02, 2019, 08:57:20 pm »
So, one negative aspect is that I will soon need to spend money on replacing my wardrobe. My favourite trousers are now decidedly too baggy and the rest are stating to lo look too loose as well.
Mind you, I'm not complaining :D.
(Although replacing my motorcycle jeans will hurt....they're rather expensive).

If you're losing weight, couldn't you get them altered?
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Re: Ketogenic diet - fad or phenom?
« Reply #1091 on: December 02, 2019, 10:05:03 pm »
Potentially, but it's a hybrid waxed denim, with kevlar reinforcement. Pretty sure my local seamstress would just say no.

Re: Ketogenic diet - fad or phenom?
« Reply #1092 on: December 06, 2019, 08:46:46 pm »
Aaand below 90kgs for the first time in a decade. (Possibly longer)

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Re: Ketogenic diet - fad or phenom?
« Reply #1093 on: December 06, 2019, 10:35:05 pm »
I've been diagnosed with hip dysplasia and wonky femurs (in rare orientations) and my mobility is terrible. The book my surgeon asked me to read says that for every Kg weight loss it saves 6Kg of forces off the hip biomechanic bits. The sensible hip dysplasia communities seem to suggest the more weight you can lose the better.

I am not overweight but at ~63-65Kg depending on scales my BMI is bang on 25, I'm heavier than I've ever been (poor mobility does that) and I reckon I could lose 2 stone (13ishKg) and still be a healthy for me weight.  I've been trying cutting down portions but struggling with being hungry - I think I did lose 1/2 a stone in 6 months like that which was a tad slow. 

I'm not going full-blown keto, but I am logging what I eat and basically 'avoiding' carbohydrates where possible. 5 days in and I do notice I am less hungry with fewer carbs. And if it helps my sodding migraines then that is also a bonus (altho had a proper optical one today).

Re: Ketogenic diet - fad or phenom?
« Reply #1094 on: January 07, 2020, 05:44:35 am »
Had my blood work done and got called back into the doctors and not surprisingly my cholestorol is a bit high. The ratio is still very good, but we both agreed that it wouldn't hurt bringing it down. I did lean heavily on the bacon in the December, so more avocado and mackerel  and less bacon.

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Re: Ketogenic diet - fad or phenom?
« Reply #1095 on: January 07, 2020, 10:54:34 am »
I've been diagnosed with hip dysplasia and wonky femurs (in rare orientations) and my mobility is terrible. The book my surgeon asked me to read says that for every Kg weight loss it saves 6Kg of forces off the hip biomechanic bits. The sensible hip dysplasia communities seem to suggest the more weight you can lose the better.

I am not overweight but at ~63-65Kg depending on scales my BMI is bang on 25, I'm heavier than I've ever been (poor mobility does that) and I reckon I could lose 2 stone (13ishKg) and still be a healthy for me weight.  I've been trying cutting down portions but struggling with being hungry - I think I did lose 1/2 a stone in 6 months like that which was a tad slow. 

I'm not going full-blown keto, but I am logging what I eat and basically 'avoiding' carbohydrates where possible. 5 days in and I do notice I am less hungry with fewer carbs. And if it helps my sodding migraines then that is also a bonus (altho had a proper optical one today).

I think you may be in an area where the 'Our Path' programme is available on the NHS.  It's a lower carb programme.  Might be worth talking to your GP to see if he can refer you.  Alternatively, it's £30 (or £60) per month for the 3 month programme (which is in line with other programmes).
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Re: Ketogenic diet - fad or phenom?
« Reply #1096 on: January 07, 2020, 01:44:19 pm »
Had my blood work done and got called back into the doctors and not surprisingly my cholestorol is a bit high. The ratio is still very good, but we both agreed that it wouldn't hurt bringing it down. I did lean heavily on the bacon in the December, so more avocado and mackerel  and less bacon.

My wife got hit with this when in full Keto. Total was high but almost totally good fat. Her ratio was off the scale good.
She was offered statins and I said NO!!

Re: Ketogenic diet - fad or phenom?
« Reply #1097 on: January 07, 2020, 11:54:49 pm »
Luckily my relatively new GP is very keen on fixing things through diet ("Food is medicine" is one of her mantras) and was super happy when I got my migraines under control through keto.
She also pointed at the ratio as the most important number and my triglycerides were very good.
Also with my upcoming career change, statins would be a big no, as I htink they would invalidate my medical certificate.

Re: Ketogenic diet - fad or phenom?
« Reply #1098 on: January 08, 2020, 12:24:34 pm »
 :thumbsup:

Re: Ketogenic diet - fad or phenom?
« Reply #1099 on: January 08, 2020, 06:48:35 pm »
Getter by back into ketosis after taking off the waggon in the autumn.

I had forgotten the headache and general unwell feeling of the first couple of days. Steady headache all day and listlessness.

It will be worth it!