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Mrs Pingu

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Re: The Bread Thread
« Reply #525 on: September 10, 2020, 05:41:40 pm »
Ooh, do report back - I've had my eye on one of those for ages, and given how cold my kitchen gets in winter I may yet crack...

As you can see from the picture I was measuring it's efficacy with the help of my probe thermometer. The kitchen was already warm (for Scottish values of warm) cos I had the oven on, but it popped up to 30C and stayed there, same with 40 and 49C. I didn't bother testing out the slow cooker heating function as that is secondary to my requirements (though I dare say I will try it out some time).

Next task is to see if I can find a generic upper wire rack for it that's cheaper than the OEM B&T one.  And bake some bread (prolly this weekend).

ETA - because it's a bit of a frivolous spend I did research the idea of using a cool box with a seedling mat & temp controller, but decided that although cheaper would take up too much space. Having said that the B&T was bigger than I was expecting (despite the fact I'd read all the info on dimensions), though it does at least fold flat.
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Re: The Bread Thread
« Reply #526 on: September 11, 2020, 06:39:14 pm »
Just had a thought about another use for the Brød & Taylor proofer - as a plate warming device.
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Re: The Bread Thread
« Reply #527 on: September 12, 2020, 08:34:01 pm »
Well I made some bread today, shaped it into loafy shape and stuck it in a warm oven for a second prove and...well you can see for youselves:





Ah well, it's still tasty so not exactly a failure.
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Re: The Bread Thread
« Reply #528 on: September 13, 2020, 06:53:36 pm »
Ooh, do report back - I've had my eye on one of those for ages, and given how cold my kitchen gets in winter I may yet crack...

Next task is to see if I can find a generic upper wire rack for it that's cheaper than the OEM B&T one.  And bake some bread (prolly this weekend).


I'm failing at the wire rack thing. Well not exactly, but all the folding cake cooling rack that look like they would do the job are about £12 for a set of three. I don't need 3, I only want 1. I really object to paying B&T £30 plus £6 delivery just for their one so that I don't have 2 racks sitting about unused.
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Re: The Bread Thread
« Reply #529 on: September 13, 2020, 08:22:12 pm »
Ooh, do report back - I've had my eye on one of those for ages, and given how cold my kitchen gets in winter I may yet crack...

Next task is to see if I can find a generic upper wire rack for it that's cheaper than the OEM B&T one.  And bake some bread (prolly this weekend).


I'm failing at the wire rack thing. Well not exactly, but all the folding cake cooling rack that look like they would do the job are about £12 for a set of three. I don't need 3, I only want 1. I really object to paying B&T £30 plus £6 delivery just for their one so that I don't have 2 racks sitting about unused.
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Re: The Bread Thread
« Reply #530 on: September 13, 2020, 10:26:30 pm »
Ooh, do report back - I've had my eye on one of those for ages, and given how cold my kitchen gets in winter I may yet crack...

Next task is to see if I can find a generic upper wire rack for it that's cheaper than the OEM B&T one.  And bake some bread (prolly this weekend).


I'm failing at the wire rack thing. Well not exactly, but all the folding cake cooling rack that look like they would do the job are about £12 for a set of three. I don't need 3, I only want 1. I really object to paying B&T £30 plus £6 delivery just for their one so that I don't have 2 racks sitting about unused.

Consider finding a stainless rectangular BBQ grill that you could chop down if needed?  eg

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Re: The Bread Thread
« Reply #531 on: September 14, 2020, 07:07:06 pm »
I could, but it needs legs to be the upper tier in the proofer. And preferably folding ones so that I can store it easily when not in use.
I did have a vague memory of having an upper wire rack on legs from our old combi micro oven loafing about in the outhouse somewhere, but having just had a rummage it looks like I tossed that out in the last purge.
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Re: The Bread Thread
« Reply #532 on: September 16, 2020, 09:22:47 am »
I learned just now that the term "pumpernickel" means "devil's fart".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumpernickel

For that reason, I think I ought to make some, but I will need some rye flour first.
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Re: The Bread Thread
« Reply #533 on: September 19, 2020, 10:46:21 pm »
Brød & Taylor proofer:

Buns at time 0 in the proofer
2020-09-19_09-22-11 by The Pingus, on Flickr

After 90mins, inflatable buns
2020-09-19_09-22-02 by The Pingus, on Flickr

Baked
2020-09-19_10-39-47 by The Pingus, on Flickr

Happy so far. We had sun in Furrybootoon today so the first prove of the dough was done in the late afternoon sun but I certainly needed the proofer for the 2nd prove.

Also, it was a good job I bought a 3 tier cooling rack set cos I needed two of the racks to fit all those buns in the proofer.
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Re: The Bread Thread
« Reply #534 on: September 20, 2020, 07:50:06 am »
There's quite clearly some hanky panky going on, as those buns managed to procreate in the time they were being baked. Look good, though.

Out of idle curiosity (as my oven has a proving setting) how does the B&T maintain humidity? In the case of my oven, I slosh about 100ml of water in the bottom, and wipe it out to bake  (to avoid calcification).

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Re: The Bread Thread
« Reply #535 on: September 20, 2020, 04:18:27 pm »

Out of idle curiosity (as my oven has a proving setting) how does the B&T maintain humidity? In the case of my oven, I slosh about 100ml of water in the bottom, and wipe it out to bake  (to avoid calcification).

Are you not in danger of getting water in the electrics if you bung the water directly in the oven?

Yeah, those photos show 3 different tins of buns.
The B&T comes with a little aluminium tray for water which goes on the hotplate under the rack.
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Re: The Bread Thread
« Reply #536 on: September 20, 2020, 04:44:23 pm »
Put simply, no. I could witter on about how it is designed for it, but I suspect that water in the bottom of any oven should be no more of an issue than in a roasting dish. The odd feature of the proving setting is that neff appear to have deployed a dedicated bottom element, as well as the normal bottom element. The normal bottom element gets very hot until the oven reaches the temperature. On proving, the bottom doesn't get hot at all, simply warm, hardly that. And, if you put hot water in the bottom it decides it won't do anything

(as mentioned previously, it is also why ICNBA to go down the sour dough route: Dough in the oven, 25 min, into the tins, 25 min, turn on the heat, 45 mins later turn out. As you may find, proving in a device is very consistent)

Re: The Bread Thread
« Reply #537 on: September 20, 2020, 04:47:45 pm »
Just out of the oven


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Re: The Bread Thread
« Reply #538 on: September 20, 2020, 04:48:14 pm »
Thinking about it, the oven here has a defrost function which just circulates room temp air. 

Not sure it matters here tho.  Doesn't get that cold.