Author Topic: “I can’t help it if a cyclist <snip> falls over as I’m approaching them"  (Read 11190 times)

The non-road traffic cases make for even more interesting reading.

http://www.4kbw.co.uk/members/janick-fielding/

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Significant private fees are however required.

So sickening. I would be interested to hear how he justifies it to himself. I think I know, along the lines of "only doing my job, if the crown had done theirs " etc etc

I just wish karma could be arranged such that one of the drivers he got off, say for drink driving, ploughs into one of his nearest and dearest (assuming anyone could get anywhere near a slug like that). I wouldn't wish ill on anyone, but sure as eggs is eggs some of those he has got "off" are going to go on to kill and maim others, it might as well be people close to him.

The non-road traffic cases make for even more interesting reading.

http://www.4kbw.co.uk/members/janick-fielding/

Indeed so, but it also seems to suggest that he has also been responsible for the avoidance of at least some gross miscarriages of justice and  (if I read it correctly) a lot of his caseload has come through the Legal Aid system.

The non-road traffic cases make for even more interesting reading.

http://www.4kbw.co.uk/members/janick-fielding/

Indeed so, but it also seems to suggest that he has also been responsible for the avoidance of at least some gross miscarriages of justice and  (if I read it correctly) a lot of his caseload has come through the Legal Aid system.

No doubt he is a superb barrister, accustomed to probing weaknesses and deficiencies in how crimes have been investigated and prosecuted, as is right and proper, but that makes his comment (above) about Ben Pontin even more inexcusable. It can't really have contributed to the outcome - I hope.

clarion

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http://www.4kbw.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/Janick-Fielding-CV-Privately-Paid-Road-Traffic-Aug-2013.pdf



I am sure he will proudly add the latest notch on his gun to his CV, just as soon as he has deleted all the negative emails he is now receiving.
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The non-road traffic cases make for even more interesting reading.

http://www.4kbw.co.uk/members/janick-fielding/

Indeed so, but it also seems to suggest that he has also been responsible for the avoidance of at least some gross miscarriages of justice and  (if I read it correctly) a lot of his caseload has come through the Legal Aid system.

No doubt he is a superb barrister, accustomed to probing weaknesses and deficiencies in how crimes have been investigated and prosecuted, as is right and proper, but that makes his comment (above) about Ben Pontin even more inexcusable. It can't really have contributed to the outcome - I hope.
Actually I suspect it did, which makes me very very cross.

From the information provided, the judge instructed the jury that they had to decide two things: was the driving careless and did it set in train events that resulted in her death?

They may well have decided that she was careless, but there is a possible break in the proof between that and her death. There seem to be several points here.

First that he braked, apparently causing the crash. The defence was able to either refute or the prosecution was not able to prove that was as a result of the driver's manoeuvre. Then, the girl fell into the path of the car. That would have to be shown as a chain of events that was linked beyond reasonable doubt (this is a criminal prosecution) to the driving. There appears some gaps in evidence as to whether the car hit her.

So yes, I would say that the counsel's speech had an effect on the jury.

clarion

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I think that it should have been arranged for the Judge, counsels, and each member of the jury in turn to stand in the road while a car drives past within two feet at 50-60mph.

It may have swayed their decision as to the carelessness of the action.
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I think that it should have been arranged for the Judge, counsels, and each member of the jury in turn to stand in the road while a car drives past within two feet at 50-60mph.

It may have swayed their decision as to the carelessness of the action.

POTD :thumbsup:

But, seriously, that's a Very Good Idea.
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They could be given certain sections of the Highway Code to read whilst they are standing there.
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clarion

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Absolutely.

And some may have noticed that the car is not described as passing within two feet, but as leaving a two foot gap.  I just thought the bill for cleaning the road might be too much if the exact conditions were replicated.
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Summing up, Mr Fielding said: “Ben Pontin said it was a stupid decision to overtake. It was nowhere near as stupid as Mr Pontin’s decision to put Denisa Perinova on that bike in the first place.

“He ought not to have been so reckless with the life of his young girlfriend and he failed with terrible consequences.”

A man being verbally smashed and pulped into the ground after losing the love of his life.
Its almost class war, cancer specialist....wtf.

There seems very little reporting of this case, those words of Fielding deserve attention.

Its almost class war, cancer specialist....wtf.

And former church bell-ringer

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http://www.4kbw.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/Janick-Fielding-CV-Privately-Paid-Road-Traffic-Aug-2013.pdf

"Significant private fees are however required."

He makes no bones about defending the indefensible (as long as they have the money).
What a scumbag!
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Divorcee with a well-paid job's legal rottweilers  versus the crown and a dead Eastern European waitress. Good luck with that.

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Divorcee with a well-paid job's legal rottweilers  versus the crown and a dead Eastern European waitress. Good luck with that.

Reading his case histories, I suspect that the bills have been paid by the insurance companies in most, if not all, of them. Whether that would be the situation in this case I have no idea, but I could envisage that the insurance company might consider it worth attempting to secure an acquittal to avoid the civil damages that might follow a guilty verdict. Why is this relevant? Because it's not 'class war'; this guy would have been equally vile to whoever got in his legal way. The list of those he has defended include more than a few who are unlikely to have been able to afford his services without corporate help.

The non-road traffic cases make for even more interesting reading.

http://www.4kbw.co.uk/members/janick-fielding/

Indeed so, but it also seems to suggest that he has also been responsible for the avoidance of at least some gross miscarriages of justice and  (if I read it correctly) a lot of his caseload has come through the Legal Aid system.

Much more likely for some of the toe rags he's got off

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Well, it makes me proud of our adversarial legal system. He'd probably give Hitler a blowjob and not even ask for a fee. Satan wouldn't want one. Shit, Hell will pretend not to be home the day he comes downstairs.

I wouldn't wish bad on anyone, but if there's karma I'm not going to be shedding a tear.

I have to go wash my mind now.
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I'm reminded of the aggressive lines of questioning reported from the gang sexual abuse cases. I'm livid enough about this case, glad i didnt find the details of those cases.


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Summing up, Mr Fielding said: “Ben Pontin said it was a stupid decision to overtake. It was nowhere near as stupid as Mr Pontin’s decision to put Denisa Perinova on that bike in the first place.

“He ought not to have been so reckless with the life of his young girlfriend and he failed with terrible consequences
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I'm absolutely shocked by that. I truly feel for Ben Pontin.

Wow, and none of the cycling organisations have picked up on this?

The reporting of the whole case seems muted to me, only the Henley paper and Mail reported the verdict, the Mail stopped comments very soon after the story appeared. No other press reports apart from cursory Times and Telegraph reports.

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Summing up, Mr Fielding said: “Ben Pontin said it was a stupid decision to overtake. It was nowhere near as stupid as Mr Pontin’s decision to put Denisa Perinova on that bike in the first place.

“He ought not to have been so reckless with the life of his young girlfriend and he failed with terrible consequences.”
Would the jury be swayed by this sort of thing in a rape case?

"Mrs Perinova should be chastised for allowing her daughter out in that skirt on the day she was raped and murdered by these 3 high-spirited young men ...
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Summing up, Mr Fielding said: “Ben Pontin said it was a stupid decision to overtake. It was nowhere near as stupid as Mr Pontin’s decision to put Denisa Perinova on that bike in the first place.

“He ought not to have been so reckless with the life of his young girlfriend and he failed with terrible consequences.”
Would the jury be swayed by this sort of thing in a rape case?

"Mrs Perinova should be chastised for allowing her daughter out in that skirt on the day she was raped and murdered by these 3 high-spirited young men ...
"

Probably.

They certainly seem to be swayed by lurid stories of the victim's behaviour, sexual history, alcohol consumption ...

The reporting of the whole case seems muted to me, only the Henley paper and Mail reported the verdict, the Mail stopped comments very soon after the story appeared. No other press reports apart from cursory Times and Telegraph reports.

Also quite muted on Twitter, despite some fairly strong early comments.

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Summing up, Mr Fielding said: “Ben Pontin said it was a stupid decision to overtake. It was nowhere near as stupid as Mr Pontin’s decision to put Denisa Perinova on that bike in the first place.

“He ought not to have been so reckless with the life of his young girlfriend and he failed with terrible consequences.”
Would the jury be swayed by this sort of thing in a rape case?

"Mrs Perinova should be chastised for allowing her daughter out in that skirt on the day she was raped and murdered by these 3 high-spirited young men ...
"

That would be reported in the press.

Maybe if the driver had decided to leave the house half an hour earlier.