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Re: Proper decent gloves
« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2013, 01:37:51 pm »
Cant go wrong with army surplus extreme cold weather mitts. Love mine, toasty warm, breathable and hardwearing.



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Re: Proper decent gloves
« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2013, 01:46:11 pm »
I've been looking for some camouflage gloves but I haven't been able to find any.


Re: Proper decent gloves
« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2013, 02:23:48 pm »
In traditional forum style. I asked a question. Got very helpful answers. Then did my own thing anyway.

Trying to wean myself off online purchases and supporting my LBS. They recommended some Endura Strike Waterproof gloves. £30 they were, which looking online is the going price anyway. Review  all seem to be favourable and being able to try on different sizes was a bonus. I bought slightly larger than usual so that I can fit my DHB glove liners in on sub zero days.

Thanks all though for the insight.

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Re: Proper decent gloves
« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2013, 03:03:44 pm »
As others have said, layers is what you want.  Whatever you go for buy a pair of these to go over the top.  Waterproof, windproof and therefore warm.  Worth every penny.

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Re: Proper decent gloves
« Reply #29 on: October 23, 2013, 03:13:25 pm »
For those that do like the Sealskinz, Sportpursuit has them on offer at the moment:

http://www.sportpursuit.com/sales/sealskinz-oct
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Re: Proper decent gloves
« Reply #30 on: October 23, 2013, 03:30:38 pm »
I have so given up with lined/padded gloves. They fill up with water so you hands sit in an ice bath yet you cannot take them off, because if you do the finger linings pull out and then you cannot put the gloves because your hands are numb with cold and then it's like, "game over".  For that extra frisson this mostly happens at night when you cannot see what youre doing. Mostly.

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Assos Early Winter Gloves and liners with Tuff Bags/Trekmate paclite mitts FTW.

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Re: Proper decent gloves
« Reply #31 on: October 23, 2013, 03:35:44 pm »
I have so given up with lined/padded gloves. Once they get wetted through you cannot take them off, because if you do the finger linings pull out and then you cannot put the gloves because your hands are numb with cold and then it's like, "game over".  For that extra frisson this mostly happens at night when you cannot see what youre doing. Mostly.

Silk liners prevent this from happening, even on cheap nasty gloves.
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Re: Proper decent gloves
« Reply #32 on: October 23, 2013, 03:42:13 pm »
I'm astounded that you think it's possible to operate a bike with some of these things. I ride fixed/single speed on solo bikes and I wouldn't try and ride wearing some of these gloves, let alone anything with actual gears to change.
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Re: Proper decent gloves
« Reply #33 on: October 23, 2013, 03:47:06 pm »
I'm astounded that you think it's possible to operate a bike with some of these things. I ride fixed/single speed on solo bikes and I wouldn't try and ride wearing some of these gloves, let alone anything with actual gears to change.

Never had a problem.  I think it's important to get the right size thus achieving a snug fit.

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Re: Proper decent gloves
« Reply #34 on: October 23, 2013, 03:54:35 pm »
But snug fit=no air trapped=colder?
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Re: Proper decent gloves
« Reply #35 on: October 23, 2013, 03:56:35 pm »
I'm astounded that you think it's possible to operate a bike with some of these things. I ride fixed/single speed on solo bikes and I wouldn't try and ride wearing some of these gloves, let alone anything with actual gears to change.

It's a point.

My seriously-cold-weather bike is the mercian (with spiked tyres). It has bar end levers and these are easily operated even with mittens.

STI's are a pain to use with Mittens.

Loose fit mittens that are snug around the wrist are warmer than tight gloves, IME. YMMV
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Re: Proper decent gloves
« Reply #36 on: October 23, 2013, 04:00:13 pm »
Yeah, bar-ends, twist grips and MTB levers are all easy enough in thick gloves.  I've not ridden a bike with STIs in winter gloves, but I imagine they're at least as fiddly as trigger shifters.  Probably something worth thinking about when specifying a winter bike.
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Re: Proper decent gloves
« Reply #37 on: October 23, 2013, 04:01:49 pm »
But snug fit=no air trapped=colder?

It's a careful balance. 

Good point about STIs.  I don't use them so perhaps can more easily get away with bulkier gloves.

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Re: Proper decent gloves
« Reply #38 on: October 23, 2013, 04:06:43 pm »
Yeah, bar-ends, twist grips and MTB levers are all easy enough in thick gloves.  I've not ridden a bike with STIs in winter gloves, but I imagine they're at least as fiddly as trigger shifters.  Probably something worth thinking about when specifying a winter bike.

Like I said, single speed for the ice bike. I still like to be able to use the brakes, and for me that's not a whole hand exercise. I s'pose MTB triggers are doable- thumb & side of hand. I still wouldn't be comfortable with the level of control though, I suspect.

(I'm almost as likely to allow twist grips in my fleet as The Bars That Shall Not Be Named).
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Re: Proper decent gloves
« Reply #39 on: October 23, 2013, 04:10:44 pm »
I have skeleton fingers, so I don't find STIs an issue with lots of glovage. Negatives are that they feel the cold very quickly.

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Re: Proper decent gloves
« Reply #40 on: October 23, 2013, 04:12:20 pm »
Yeah, bar-ends, twist grips and MTB levers are all easy enough in thick gloves.  I've not ridden a bike with STIs in winter gloves, but I imagine they're at least as fiddly as trigger shifters.  Probably something worth thinking about when specifying a winter bike.

Like I said, single speed for the ice bike. I still like to be able to use the brakes, and for me that's not a whole hand exercise. I s'pose MTB triggers are doable- thumb & side of hand. I still wouldn't be comfortable with the level of control though, I suspect.

(I'm almost as likely to allow twist grips in my fleet as The Bars That Shall Not Be Named).

Oh, I hate twist grips too.  I tolerate them merely as a Reasonable Adjustment under the 2010 Equality Act, and even then only the high-end SRAM and Rohloff versions (ie. those that actually work) are considered acceptable :)

But they do work fine in thick gloves.  Indeed, it's the absence of gloves in summer that makes them tricky.

MTB triggers take a bit of getting used to with thick gloves, but do work okay.  The problem is the accelerated wear on the thumb part of the glove, due to the sliding motion over the lever.
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Re: Proper decent gloves
« Reply #41 on: October 23, 2013, 04:16:02 pm »
People with arthritic fingers find twist grips easier than sti, rapid-fires or even large thumbies
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Re: Proper decent gloves
« Reply #42 on: October 23, 2013, 04:18:34 pm »
The Sub-Zero gloves look like they would be a PITA to use with STIs, but once I had them on I found that to not the case.
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Re: Proper decent gloves
« Reply #43 on: October 23, 2013, 04:21:12 pm »
The Sub-Zero gloves look like they would be a PITA to use with STIs, but once I had them on I found that to not the case.

Ditto.

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Re: Proper decent gloves
« Reply #45 on: October 23, 2013, 07:51:30 pm »
Assos Early Winter Gloves and liners with Tuff Bags/Trekmate paclite mitts FTW.
Goretex Mitts are the one thing I haven't tried, but sound like they should work. But £40 for the Tuffs, eek.

Has anyone used the "British Army" ones (priced around a tenner in many virtual high streets)?
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Re: Proper decent gloves
« Reply #46 on: October 23, 2013, 08:34:13 pm »
Cant go wrong with army surplus extreme cold weather mitts. Love mine, toasty warm, breathable and hardwearing.



Is that a whole system, bender? Looks good.

Yup, centre one is an inner fuzzy lined, leather palmed goretex which is enough on it's own on the bike, then the left hand wool 'ovenmitt' over the top, finally the righthand gore outer. I have ridden with all three but they are bulky. using them without the wool layer is great, and the outers come almost to my elbows keeping my arm warm. they're dirt cheap, and better than some very expensive stuff I see marketed as 'sports' equipment.

Re: Proper decent gloves
« Reply #47 on: October 25, 2013, 02:17:14 pm »
But snug fit=no air trapped=colder?
Correct.

I've used a loose fit Extremites Velo glove in -10°C without problems, despite it being a fairly thin glove.

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Re: Proper decent gloves
« Reply #48 on: October 26, 2013, 01:32:32 pm »
For really cold weather, pogies/bar mitts are great.
It means you can wear some fairly thin gloves inside, so still able to use the gears and brakes etc.

Re: Proper decent gloves
« Reply #49 on: October 26, 2013, 01:42:58 pm »
Last winter taught me the value of a decent pair of gloves brrrrrrr.
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