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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2075 on: June 17, 2020, 04:44:36 pm »
I see your <SPACE><TAB> and give you line endings.

Apart from those poor sods who work with framemaker, all of our source is text format, edited and built from a Linux cluster.

So, we have the lusers who edit these files in Word, use a random text editor with line endings set to CRLF and don't get me started on their inability to follow the instructions for pushing to Git.

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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2076 on: June 17, 2020, 06:50:53 pm »
And what kind of feckless drooling weapon:
  • puts tabs, spaces or a mixture thereof at the end of a line, and/or
  • inserts blank lines which aren't actually blank because they've got spaces, tabs or a mixture thereof in them
???
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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2077 on: June 17, 2020, 07:36:59 pm »
That usually happens organically as people edit things, but I expect someone (Crowley?) has worked out a way to automate the process.
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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2078 on: June 17, 2020, 07:58:10 pm »
OK, it's not a coding thing, but I always thought that Word should watch for multiple spaces

(it used to watch and say "You appear to be writing a letter" after you'd typed a couple of words)

and if you type two spaces after a punctuation thing should say "Oi!! This not a fecking typewriter!!! We are in the 21st Century now, with proportional fonts and ever-thing."

It you type three or more spaces it should say "Tabs, dear boy/girl/ , TABS!" and convert your spaces to a tab.
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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2079 on: June 17, 2020, 09:39:00 pm »
And what kind of feckless drooling weapon:
  • puts tabs, spaces or a mixture thereof at the end of a line, and/or
  • inserts blank lines which aren't actually blank because they've got spaces, tabs or a mixture thereof in them
???
Could this be why?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitespace_(programming_language)

Unlikely, obvs.
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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2080 on: June 17, 2020, 09:52:57 pm »
Notepad++ can remove trailing spaces and other gubbins.               

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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2081 on: June 18, 2020, 02:21:16 pm »
Notepad++ can remove trailing spaces and other gubbins.               

I haz a saved notepad++ macro to do this very thing.  Also, I see what you did there ;D
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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2082 on: June 18, 2020, 02:38:39 pm »
In find and replace on bog standard notepad you can use regular expressions to do the same. Same in word pad etc.

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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2083 on: June 18, 2020, 09:23:19 pm »
In find and replace on bog standard notepad you can use regular expressions to do the same. Same in word pad etc.

I had a problem, my document had unwanted trailing spaces and and tabs I used a regex....  fill in the punchline.  :)
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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2084 on: June 18, 2020, 09:54:10 pm »
In find and replace on bog standard notepad you can use regular expressions to do the same. Same in word pad etc.

I had a problem, my document had unwanted trailing spaces and and tabs I used a regex....  fill in the punchline.  :)


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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2085 on: June 24, 2020, 11:01:40 am »
Why is Zoom crashing my router (TP-Link)? It has been pretty stable for months, then crashes/resets within 10 minutes of starting a Zoom meeting.
I am using a separate WAP, the router should just be doing the ethernet/router/modem stuff.

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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2086 on: June 25, 2020, 10:33:04 am »
Devolo technical support have confirmed that their powerline adapters wifi doesn't work if you specify a fixed IP for the LAN interface.  Why the actual f##k would you design in a configuration option that renders the unit into a brick?
Do they call it a bug?  Do they promise a future firmware update?  Do they bollocks.  Its just a 'configuration requirement' that you don't use that setting.  Not in the docs of course.

Damn things don't pass 802.1q either, that would give me a work-around.

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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2087 on: June 25, 2020, 06:57:37 pm »
No, BBC Londonton "News", a major outage for Virgin Media's infrastructure in the southwest of London's famous London has not left thousands of customers unable to work from home because they are "without wifi".  How many times do you clods have to be told that wifi != internet?
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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2088 on: June 25, 2020, 11:10:58 pm »
Major outbreak of gremlins in our phones, which I really can't be arsed with in the heat.

So far I've found:
- Endless (but presumably harmelss) stream of warning messages from asterisk about comfort noise generation packets it doesn't know how to handle.  This is new.  Did Sipgate change something?
- Copy/paste error in the asterisk dialplan that wasn't actually causing a problem, but might have done in an edge-case failure condition.  Fixed.
- Slightly odd list of codecs in the configuration for the Sipgate trunk, which was presumably being automagically worked around by transcoding except...
- My failure to load the dahdi_transcode kernel module after I manually reset everything after the post-powercut SSD saga, causing calls on the analogue extension to be negotiated and then dropped due to mismatch of codecs.  Fixed.

Meanwhile:
- Downstairs Snom 300 seems to have developed a random mid-call reboot habit.  Barakta thought it was caused by a dodgy lead on the receiver, but we can't reproduce that by wiggling or thumping.  Seems unlikely that it's shorting out in a way that could cause a reboot.  Maybe it's related to the comfort noise thing?  Who knows...  Quite annoying, as so far I've considered these phones to be both cheap and (once properly configured) utterly reliable.

I hate phones.
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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2089 on: June 26, 2020, 11:23:23 pm »
Update to the above:  12 minute call while I was out earlier.  No evidence of comfort noise warnings in the log.  Nothing untoward happened.  Perhaps Sipgate have un-changed something?
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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2090 on: July 05, 2020, 09:58:25 am »
Now on day 7 of no internet from Plusnet. On day 4 I booked to change to Andrews & Arnold but the change-over is not for another 15 days.

Two more hours on the phone yesterday to Plusnet to no avail. The Plusnet-supplied BT Openreach modem and the A&A supplied Zyxel router can both get a VSDL connection but neither can authenticate.

Mobile internet costs keep on going up.
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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2091 on: July 06, 2020, 05:59:08 pm »
Now on day 7 of no internet from Plusnet. On day 4 I booked to change to Andrews & Arnold but the change-over is not for another 15 days.

Two more hours on the phone yesterday to Plusnet to no avail. The Plusnet-supplied BT Openreach modem and the A&A supplied Zyxel router can both get a VSDL connection but neither can authenticate.

Mobile internet costs keep on going up.
On day 7 of no internet from Plusnet, an engineer (well probably a technician) was booked for Tuesday am, 9 days after the internet went down. There is a fee of £65 if there's no fault, or we're not in, or its something we've done or we cancel with less than 24 hours notice.

On day 8 or no internet, around 14 hours before the engineer is due, the router connected, having not been touched for several hours at least. I was using the laptop for non-internet stuff but it had the ethernet cable plugged in and I received a notification of something from the internet.

Now on hold to see if Plusnet are going to charge me £65 for not giving them 24 hours notice or there not having been a fault, because they can obviously claim that Nothing Changed on day 0, so it can't possibly have changed back just now. I may have to pay the £65 so that I don't have to talk to anyone tomorrow, and so that there's nothing to be messed up.

(I don't know if this is included in rants passim, but about 10 years ago Vodafone said they didn't change anything on their PAYG network, but all of the vehicle tracking units with Vodafone PAYG SIMS stopped working simultaneously. Obviously nothing changed back again six months later when they all started working)
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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2092 on: July 06, 2020, 06:37:50 pm »
Now on day 7 of no internet from Plusnet. On day 4 I booked to change to Andrews & Arnold but the change-over is not for another 15 days.

Two more hours on the phone yesterday to Plusnet to no avail. The Plusnet-supplied BT Openreach modem and the A&A supplied Zyxel router can both get a VSDL connection but neither can authenticate.

Mobile internet costs keep on going up.
On day 7 of no internet from Plusnet, an engineer (well probably a technician) was booked for Tuesday am, 9 days after the internet went down. There is a fee of £65 if there's no fault, or we're not in, or its something we've done or we cancel with less than 24 hours notice.

On day 8 or no internet, around 14 hours before the engineer is due, the router connected, having not been touched for several hours at least. I was using the laptop for non-internet stuff but it had the ethernet cable plugged in and I received a notification of something from the internet.

Now on hold to see if Plusnet are going to charge me £65 for not giving them 24 hours notice or there not having been a fault, because they can obviously claim that Nothing Changed on day 0, so it can't possibly have changed back just now. I may have to pay the £65 so that I don't have to talk to anyone tomorrow, and so that there's nothing to be messed up.

(I don't know if this is included in rants passim, but about 10 years ago Vodafone said they didn't change anything on their PAYG network, but all of the vehicle tracking units with Vodafone PAYG SIMS stopped working simultaneously. Obviously nothing changed back again six months later when they all started working)
Only just over half an hour on the phone and they tell me that the engineers came before the due time, without telling me, so it's all fixed, I hope.
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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2093 on: Yesterday at 04:37:08 pm »
Bored bored bored bored bored of hitting Alt+Enter in LibreOffice Calc and the wrong thing happening.
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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2094 on: Today at 11:57:37 am »
Web sites that prevent you clicking back to leave I hate you. I find it really really annoying. 
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2095 on: Today at 02:25:29 pm »
Microsoft Word. And people that don't know how to use it.

An explosive combination, sadly very, very, common, from what I can see.
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Re: The computing stuff rant thread
« Reply #2096 on: Today at 06:22:12 pm »
Web sites that prevent you clicking back to leave I hate you. I find it really really annoying.

And ones that won't take "Fuck the fuck off" for an answer when they try to push their poxy notifications at you.
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