Author Topic: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.  (Read 72631 times)

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #425 on: March 01, 2020, 07:28:35 pm »
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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #426 on: March 02, 2020, 08:11:48 am »
It'll look a bit more handsome with a deck full of F-35Bs and some close-in defence systems at each corner.

Mind you, having two proper carriers for the first time since both HMS Ark Royal (R09) and HMS Eagle (R05) were in service doesn't half highlight how few escorts the Navy has for them compared with the end of the Cold War, never mind the Falklands conflict. Another couple of Type 45 air defence destroyers wouldn't have gone amiss.

Plus you really need three aircraft carriers not two. One on patrol, one working up to combat ready and the third in refit. Two results in quite a lot of time where you don't actually have one ready to do anything which will of course be exactly when you need one.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #427 on: March 02, 2020, 01:08:51 pm »
But surely BRITAIN is just one big aircraft carrier*?  That's why Mr Orwell called it "Airstrip One".

* joke stolen from a B Mussolini of Rome, who claimed the same thing about Italy
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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #428 on: March 02, 2020, 01:58:24 pm »
It'll look a bit more handsome with a deck full of F-35Bs and some close-in defence systems at each corner.

Mind you, having two proper carriers for the first time since both HMS Ark Royal (R09) and HMS Eagle (R05) were in service doesn't half highlight how few escorts the Navy has for them compared with the end of the Cold War, never mind the Falklands conflict. Another couple of Type 45 air defence destroyers wouldn't have gone amiss.

Plus you really need three aircraft carriers not two. One on patrol, one working up to combat ready and the third in refit. Two results in quite a lot of time where you don't actually have one ready to do anything which will of course be exactly when you need one.

I'm not sure why we need any carriers at all.  Plenty of successful countries do without them and I'm sure the money could be well spent elsewhere, the NHS maybe?  I'm probably missing something big which justifies the expense.

But the tech is amazing and I'd love to have a look round one, I'm deeply envious of Jaded.  And those F35s are something else...

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #429 on: March 02, 2020, 03:21:18 pm »
We need the aircraft carriers to defend our EMPIRE against the godless heathens and the heathless godons. Perhaps...
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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #430 on: March 02, 2020, 03:51:59 pm »
We need the aircraft carriers to defend our EMPIRE against the godless heathens and the heathless godons. Perhaps...

Ah yes, I knew I was missing something, the Empire... definitely needs defending!

Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #431 on: March 04, 2020, 01:23:34 pm »
It'll look a bit more handsome with a deck full of F-35Bs and some close-in defence systems at each corner.

Mind you, having two proper carriers for the first time since both HMS Ark Royal (R09) and HMS Eagle (R05) were in service doesn't half highlight how few escorts the Navy has for them compared with the end of the Cold War, never mind the Falklands conflict. Another couple of Type 45 air defence destroyers wouldn't have gone amiss.

Plus you really need three aircraft carriers not two. One on patrol, one working up to combat ready and the third in refit. Two results in quite a lot of time where you don't actually have one ready to do anything which will of course be exactly when you need one.

I'm not sure why we need any carriers at all.  Plenty of successful countries do without them and I'm sure the money could be well spent elsewhere, the NHS maybe?  I'm probably missing something big which justifies the expense.


There is a valid argument for having none but if you do have them you should have three. Even more bonkers is France with one carrier. Most of the time it doesn't have any it can use as its being repaired.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

Oscar's dad

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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #432 on: March 05, 2020, 03:27:10 pm »
Yes, I see that, good point.

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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #433 on: March 05, 2020, 04:21:52 pm »
It'll look a bit more handsome with a deck full of F-35Bs and some close-in defence systems at each corner.

Mind you, having two proper carriers for the first time since both HMS Ark Royal (R09) and HMS Eagle (R05) were in service doesn't half highlight how few escorts the Navy has for them compared with the end of the Cold War, never mind the Falklands conflict. Another couple of Type 45 air defence destroyers wouldn't have gone amiss.

Plus you really need three aircraft carriers not two. One on patrol, one working up to combat ready and the third in refit. Two results in quite a lot of time where you don't actually have one ready to do anything which will of course be exactly when you need one.

I'm not sure why we need any carriers at all.  Plenty of successful countries do without them and I'm sure the money could be well spent elsewhere, the NHS maybe?  I'm probably missing something big which justifies the expense.


There is a valid argument for having none but if you do have them you should have three. Even more bonkers is France with one carrier. Most of the time it doesn't have any it can use as its being repaired.

We have just one because we've changed our mind after building one (too expensive, you Brits decided that you would cooperate with the US rather than us as we were hoping).

Instead of building 2 new aircraft carriers, we built 3 of those :



They proved useful to annoy to death Gaddafi but I wouldn't mind having Oscar's Dad as our ministre of defence though.

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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #434 on: March 05, 2020, 06:34:36 pm »
France‚Äôs Minister of Defence?  I should be President of the Whole World!!!

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Re: Interesting and unusual boaty type things.
« Reply #435 on: March 05, 2020, 08:09:13 pm »
It's worth a shot  :thumbsup: