Author Topic: Mersey Roads 24 hr tt 2014  (Read 6375 times)

Re: Mersey Roads 24 hr tt 2014
« Reply #50 on: July 16, 2014, 07:37:15 am »
Yes, Hodnet / Epsley roundabout is the best place to be on the night circuit.  There is a big layby on the north side of it but, best of all is the large grass verge immediately on the south side (where riders will be going slower).  If I had a support crew that is where I would ask them to be! 

On the Quina Brook (small) circuit, I would most likely ask them to be somewhere on the massive hill that we go up near Prees village as that is where people are going slowest for handups and / or encouragement.  Prees Island is not bad: you are better placed there to spot when people get switched - but it is a bit busy and also quite fast.   Perhaps just before Prees would be good, so she will be slowing for the RAB and you can see if they switch her. 

The big variable on swithching between circuits is when they send you to the finishing circuit.  I wasn't sure about this so I asked the organiser.  My recollection from 2012 is similar to YLG above, that it was about 10am, but that was a bit of a hazy recollection!  The answer from the organiser (Sam) was not so straightforward:

'Normally we send the first riders on towards the finishing circuit around 8am - again depending on positions on the road and other unforeseen circumstances. ...  it is the slower riders that are sent first so if you are going well it will be later.  We have had some information that there is a road race clashing with a part of the finishing circuit so it is likely we will be sending people later than normal this year.'

Re: Mersey Roads 24 hr tt 2014
« Reply #51 on: July 16, 2014, 02:06:39 pm »
Thanks Frank, I had a quick look at those on Google earth so I think I have a rough idea what I'm at, although I have been known to get lost on the way to the kitchen.

See you all there,

Pauric

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Re: Mersey Roads 24 hr tt 2014
« Reply #52 on: July 16, 2014, 02:28:44 pm »
Thanks Frank, I had a quick look at those on Google earth so I think I have a rough idea what I'm at, although I have been known to get lost on the way to the kitchen.

See you all there,

Pauric
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Re: Mersey Roads 24 hr tt 2014
« Reply #53 on: July 16, 2014, 03:27:01 pm »
Heather and I are doing our regular graveyard slot at Espley. I plan to be at the HQ for the start. I then tend to move on to the lay-by North of Tern Hill on the A41, as it's a good spot to film from. It's also a good spot to support from, as you get a long view of your rider coming from Tern Hill, they are going slow enough to hand up to, and they can pull into the lay-by if they don't feel confident about picking up food on the move.

The worst place to hand up is just before the Prees Heath roundabout on the Quina Brook circuit, it's better to walk back up to the Armco barriers about 200 metres South on the A49.

We'll be happy to give updates on riders at Espley, but we will be focused on getting numbers so don't expect undivided attention, when it's quiet we'll be pleased of the company.

Sam Williams decides who gets turned at Espley in the morning, she's the blonde lady with glasses, wearing a hi-vis coat. That's assuming she's there, she's doing a postgraduate degree in oncology in Madrid, but she usually gets back for the 24. Ask her when the turn will happen, again she may be concentrating on something else, so be prepared to be momentarily ignored.

Re: Mersey Roads 24 hr tt 2014
« Reply #54 on: July 17, 2014, 10:27:31 am »
The weather is starting to look interesting. 

It's a bit unsettled so may change in the next couple of days but at the moment there seems to be talk of thunderstorms on Saturday afternoon.  A bit of rain might even be welcome to cool things down, but riding in wet kit is not ideal. 

It should be pretty mild through night and Sunday seems fine, at least.


Re: Mersey Roads 24 hr tt 2014
« Reply #55 on: July 17, 2014, 10:36:42 am »
YR.NO has been showing a shift towards an earlier clearance at Shawbury, which is close to Hodnet and is a meteorological station. Judging by that forecast I'd be wary of camping at the HQ, but the forecast is good for the ride itself.
http://www.yr.no/place/United_Kingdom/England/Shawbury_Weather_station_(WMO_3414)/

Re: Mersey Roads 24 hr tt 2014
« Reply #56 on: July 17, 2014, 01:33:22 pm »
I'll take that forecast! 
Let's hope it doesn't slip back a couple of hours.

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Re: Mersey Roads 24 hr tt 2014
« Reply #57 on: July 17, 2014, 05:29:26 pm »
Officially starting to get excited now... Have been shopping for supplies and am having a conference at the pub this evening with support crew & Lord Audax. Glory and aching knees will be mine!  :thumbsup:
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Re: Mersey Roads 24 hr tt 2014
« Reply #58 on: July 17, 2014, 09:40:49 pm »
I am now unable to travel to do this and have informed the organiser Im a DNS  :(

Re: Mersey Roads 24 hr tt 2014
« Reply #59 on: July 17, 2014, 10:07:20 pm »
Officially starting to get excited now... Have been shopping for supplies and am having a conference at the pub this evening with support crew & Lord Audax. Glory and aching knees will be mine!  :thumbsup:

I suppose we're as ready as we'll ever be. Who was it said, 'like fun but different'.

Re: Mersey Roads 24 hr tt 2014
« Reply #60 on: July 18, 2014, 08:18:28 am »
YR.NO has been showing a shift towards an earlier clearance at Shawbury, which is close to Hodnet and is a meteorological station. Judging by that forecast I'd be wary of camping at the HQ, but the forecast is good for the ride itself.
http://www.yr.no/place/United_Kingdom/England/Shawbury_Weather_station_(WMO_3414)/

Not looking so good now!  I made myself a small mudguard last night.   >:(
Although XC is now a bit more optimistic. 
I expect there will be an hour or two of rain at some point but it looks like showers rather than prolonged rain.

I am now unable to travel to do this and have informed the organiser Im a DNS  :(
Sorry to hear that!

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Re: Mersey Roads 24 hr tt 2014
« Reply #61 on: July 18, 2014, 08:21:08 am »
Before everyone sets off just a quick "bonne route" to everyone riding, and supporting!

I hope everyone gets the distance they want and enjoys it.
Right! What's next?

Ooooh. That sounds like a daft idea.  I am in!

Re: Mersey Roads 24 hr tt 2014
« Reply #62 on: July 18, 2014, 09:42:05 am »
Before everyone sets off just a quick "bonne route" to everyone riding, and supporting!

I hope everyone gets the distance they want and enjoys it.

+1, and no doubt lots more!

Re: Mersey Roads 24 hr tt 2014
« Reply #63 on: July 19, 2014, 12:07:46 pm »
Still raining in Leyland, so I'm not keen on a motorcycle journey to Farndon. I don't want to revive my sciatica by standing around in wet kit. I'll see you all later tonight at Espley.

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Re: Mersey Roads 24 hr tt 2014
« Reply #64 on: July 20, 2014, 08:44:58 am »
Leaders at 12 hours:

Hoppo 261
Greg Woodford 253
Jilko 248

TG is looking comfortable.
Frank's packed.

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Re: Mersey Roads 24 hr tt 2014
« Reply #65 on: July 20, 2014, 09:29:36 am »
Thanks for the update. Really sorry to hear about frank.

Any news on Ian h or chuffy?

Is the weather being kind? 
Right! What's next?

Ooooh. That sounds like a daft idea.  I am in!

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Re: Mersey Roads 24 hr tt 2014
« Reply #66 on: July 20, 2014, 04:53:24 pm »
Argh, argh, argh.  :sick:
394 on my computer (19:41, 4:19 off the bike) @evens. Provisional result 383. Ian H for 389 provisional. We had a top, top team supporting us (+one other rider). Flopped out in Travelodge now, trying to work out what I want to eat.

Not doing that again, it was brutal!
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Re: Mersey Roads 24 hr tt 2014
« Reply #67 on: July 20, 2014, 05:57:36 pm »
Great stuff! Well done.


Not doing that again, it was brutal!

Yeah, yeah, I said the same. Maybe not next year, but I will certainly give it another go at some point!
Right! What's next?

Ooooh. That sounds like a daft idea.  I am in!


Re: Mersey Roads 24 hr tt 2014
« Reply #69 on: July 20, 2014, 07:36:05 pm »
Well done everyone.

I'll have a go again but not next year.   My osteopath only finished straightening my back and neck out yesterday.

Re: Mersey Roads 24 hr tt 2014
« Reply #70 on: July 21, 2014, 10:29:24 am »
Well done to everyone who stayed the distance!

I have to confess that I made a tactical retreat.  Main reason was that I was behind my schedule.  While I was on track for a decent ride, it wasn't quite what I had hoped, so I decided I would withdraw and save my legs for other challenges.  I abandoned after 6.5 hours and rode back to the HQ and curled up in my tent.

I had a few other things which went wrong, none of which were showstoppers, but which made it easier for me to stop.  The worst was losing a 1 litre bottle on a bump after having carried it around for 4.5 hours and when I was about to start using it.  That meant I had to make a stop 2.5 hours earlier than planned and it threw my feeding strategy out of the window (my mix of liquid and solid, what of each I had and and what I could carry just got too complicated to recalc with a tired brain).  Another was my contact lens playing up which I can cope with in the daytime but not very well at night. 

The worst bit about giving up was that the organisers and marshalls had gone to such lengths to put on such a wonderful event that it felt very bad to let them down by not going the distance.  After the initial drenching, the weather was pretty kind too.  However, on the plus side, I was able to drive home safely yesterday, can work today and my legs are still in one piece, so it seemed like the right thing to do.  No regrets about having a go: what I had planned did not work but I learned lessons about riding a 24 that I could not have otherwise learned. 

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Re: Mersey Roads 24 hr tt 2014
« Reply #71 on: July 21, 2014, 12:34:51 pm »
Well done to everyone and commiserations to those who didn't finish, it must have been very tough going in that rain and humidity on Saturday. I'm glad I wasn't riding this year, put it that way!

Looking at the splits that Mr Bunbury posted, I'm surprised the final distances weren't higher to be honest - was this just the result of fatigue from the earlier foul weather (I'm assuming the weather overnight and on Sunday was okay), or does something else explain it? Maybe I'm being unfair and those are decent splits?

Re: Mersey Roads 24 hr tt 2014
« Reply #72 on: July 21, 2014, 01:53:07 pm »
Well done to everyone and commiserations to those who didn't finish, it must have been very tough going in that rain and humidity on Saturday. I'm glad I wasn't riding this year, put it that way!

Looking at the splits that Mr Bunbury posted, I'm surprised the final distances weren't higher to be honest - was this just the result of fatigue from the earlier foul weather (I'm assuming the weather overnight and on Sunday was okay), or does something else explain it? Maybe I'm being unfair and those are decent splits?

I'd love to see the full splits.  My feeling from the first 100 was that several riders who passed me were going faster than they were likely to be able to sustain and would pay for it later on.  However, Greg Woodford, the winner, who looked very smooth when he came past me, did something like 253/230, which seems like a well-paced ride. 

The weather was better than the forecast!  It was drizzling from the start and then there was a very heavy shower that lasted for a good hour.  But then the sun got out and it was a nice evening.  There was little if any more rain overnight and the wind was light. 

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Re: Mersey Roads 24 hr tt 2014
« Reply #73 on: July 21, 2014, 11:39:47 pm »
No idea what my exact split was, but I had 190 miles at the 10hr mark. Loads of time in hand to rack off a big 12hr figure and smash 400! So, of course, with 2hrs in hand I had a 1.5hr loafing stop...  :facepalm: That said, without a nice break off the bike I might have fallen apart later, so I can't say what could have been.

We were very lucky with the weather - there was some rain to start, but it wasn't very cold and once the rain cleared it stayed pretty pleasant. Saturday was also ok and not too warm, although the temperature was climbing towards the end. No real wind to speak off, although there was a perceptible head/tail breeze on the Shawbirch circuit. Not enough to make a significant difference though.
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Re: Mersey Roads 24 hr tt 2014
« Reply #74 on: July 22, 2014, 11:33:29 am »
Woo! I had an 11 mile discrepancy between my computer and what the timekeepers had. I made an enquiry and yes, there had been an error and I'm being credited with another 8 miles! Final total - 391!  ;D
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