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Re: Tubeless for Dummies
« Reply #1050 on: August 02, 2020, 07:37:01 pm »
Make that three. Love the ride on the Schwalbe’s but fragile.
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Re: Tubeless for Dummies
« Reply #1051 on: August 02, 2020, 08:01:06 pm »
Likewise, the Schwalbe are my fave, but recommend for road use only.   
Maybe one of the Hutchinsons if you want to do some occasional gravel ?
 

citoyen

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Re: Tubeless for Dummies
« Reply #1052 on: August 03, 2020, 09:51:59 am »
OK, sounds like it might be best to steer clear of the Schwalbe.

Maybe one of the Hutchinsons if you want to do some occasional gravel ?

Hmmm, just looking at the Fusion 5 Performance, which is available in 30mm. Interesting... Although, looking at the figures at bicyclerollingresistance.com, they are slower than the Schwalbes with no better score for puncture protection. (Also slower than the Fusion 5 Galactik but with much better puncture protection.)

Everything so far seems to be pointing at the GP5000 as the best choice. They seem to be available at the best price too.

Given that I do like to hop off the tarmac and onto the trails occasionally, I really do need to get a gravel bike - or at least something that will take fatter tyres than 28mm.
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Re: Tubeless for Dummies
« Reply #1053 on: August 03, 2020, 10:33:08 am »
If Continental didn’t mandate a hooked rim I’d not touch the Schwalbes with a barge pole.

Re: Tubeless for Dummies
« Reply #1054 on: August 03, 2020, 11:04:46 pm »
I’m currently running a pair of wtb exposure tan wall on one bike. 30mm nominal - wider into 20mm internal rims. They ride nicely, seem fairly fast, and are wide enough for mild gravel and track use. Still losing air slowly, but overall positive. Probably gp5000 or pro1, but good useful tyres.

citoyen

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Re: Tubeless for Dummies
« Reply #1055 on: August 04, 2020, 07:33:24 pm »
I’m currently running a pair of wtb exposure tan wall on one bike. 30mm nominal - wider into 20mm internal rims. They ride nicely, seem fairly fast, and are wide enough for mild gravel and track use. Still losing air slowly, but overall positive. Probably gp5000 or pro1, but good useful tyres.
They do look interesting, thanks. Not sure tanwalls would be right for this bike but they appear to be available in all black too...
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Re: Tubeless for Dummies
« Reply #1056 on: August 16, 2020, 07:21:49 pm »
riding in skoggy lanes after yesterday's rain caused my front tyre to puncture this morning. sealant leaked for about ten minutes, but eventually sealed the 2-3mm cut. checked the pressure when back at home and it was ~55psi (down from 80). there's still about 1000k left in the tyres, but will probably replace them with a new set rather than faff about patching this one. the bike needs a good scrub to remove a mixture of mud+sealant.





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Re: Tubeless for Dummies
« Reply #1057 on: October 05, 2020, 11:25:27 pm »
Anyone got any recommendations for how to get a tight GP5000TL on to a Hope 20FIVE rim? This could be the first tyre/wheel combo in a lifetime of cycling that's defeated me.
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citoyen

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Re: Tubeless for Dummies
« Reply #1058 on: October 06, 2020, 10:01:39 am »
Anyone got any recommendations for how to get a tight GP5000TL on to a Hope 20FIVE rim? This could be the first tyre/wheel combo in a lifetime of cycling that's defeated me.

Are you lubricating the rim? I have some Schwalbe Easy Fit mounting fluid, which came with a tubeless kit along with rim tape and valve. I find it makes a big difference.

You don't need the special stuff though - a bit of diluted washing up liquid will do the job just as well.
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citoyen

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Re: Tubeless for Dummies
« Reply #1059 on: October 06, 2020, 10:05:23 am »
Now my question: how do you remove old sealant?

I had a spot of bother with my front tubeless while out the other day - I don't think it was punctured but it was losing air, so I stopped and stuck a tube in so I could continue my ride and worry about it properly when I got home.

Tyre is all sorted now. Trouble is, I am left with a tube that's coated in sticky sealant...
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Re: Tubeless for Dummies
« Reply #1060 on: October 06, 2020, 10:10:06 am »
Let it dry out completely - I hang mine up.  It'll set to a rubbery consistency which can mostly be peeled off.  Time consuming and a bit messy though.
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citoyen

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Re: Tubeless for Dummies
« Reply #1061 on: October 06, 2020, 10:18:43 am »
Let it dry out completely - I hang mine up.  It'll set to a rubbery consistency which can mostly be peeled off.  Time consuming and a bit messy though.

Ta! That's pretty much what I did before, I was just wondering if there was an easier way... mainly because it was indeed time consuming and messy.
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zigzag

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Re: Tubeless for Dummies
« Reply #1062 on: October 06, 2020, 10:19:53 am »
Anyone got any recommendations for how to get a tight GP5000TL on to a Hope 20FIVE rim? This could be the first tyre/wheel combo in a lifetime of cycling that's defeated me.

have all the basics been done right? key ones being: the bead in the centre of the rim, tyre stretched/moved towards the valve, the part near the valve is mounted last.

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Re: Tubeless for Dummies
« Reply #1063 on: October 06, 2020, 01:09:14 pm »
Anyone got any recommendations for how to get a tight GP5000TL on to a Hope 20FIVE rim? This could be the first tyre/wheel combo in a lifetime of cycling that's defeated me.

have all the basics been done right? key ones being: the bead in the centre of the rim, tyre stretched/moved towards the valve, the part near the valve is mounted last.

That's an interesting approach, I've always mounted the end furthest from the valve last, I guess as a result of old habits, but it makes sense to mount the valve area last - will give that a try on the dynohub when I swap it over this week!  :thumbsup:
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Re: Tubeless for Dummies
« Reply #1064 on: October 06, 2020, 02:24:25 pm »
Anyone got any recommendations for how to get a tight GP5000TL on to a Hope 20FIVE rim? This could be the first tyre/wheel combo in a lifetime of cycling that's defeated me.

have all the basics been done right? key ones being: the bead in the centre of the rim, tyre stretched/moved towards the valve, the part near the valve is mounted last.

And, like with Marathons, using toe-straps of similar to "tie-in" the tyre at 90 and 270 degrees as you progress towards the valve.
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Re: Tubeless for Dummies
« Reply #1065 on: October 06, 2020, 07:13:44 pm »
I put a pot of 5000TLs on a new pair of wheels last week and they were both tight and have chunky beads. I finished up using a plastic tyre lever to help as I got close to the valve. The last couple of inches was by thumb. These and Challenge Paris Roubaix seem about the tightest tyres I’ve fitted recently, and the only ones that needed levers.

Of course, anyone using Chrina rims will have a different experience, but they are tubeless capable and don’t belong here!

Re: Tubeless for Dummies
« Reply #1066 on: October 06, 2020, 07:53:09 pm »
Anyone got any recommendations for how to get a tight GP5000TL on to a Hope 20FIVE rim? This could be the first tyre/wheel combo in a lifetime of cycling that's defeated me.

Wipe the beads with a solution of water and washing up liquid

Re: Tubeless for Dummies
« Reply #1067 on: October 08, 2020, 12:42:53 pm »
Anyone got any recommendations for how to get a tight GP5000TL on to a Hope 20FIVE rim? This could be the first tyre/wheel combo in a lifetime of cycling that's defeated me.

https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/tools/bbb-easy-tyre-fitting-tool-btl78/